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If soO loses to you in the finals it's a real™ GSL
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On July 24 2017 02:33 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
If soO loses to you in the finals it's a real™ GSL
VSL = GSL. It is known. INnoVation 3x GSL champion 
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On July 24 2017 02:33 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
If soO loses to you in the finals it's a real™ GSL
Solar GSL winner confirmed :D
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On July 24 2017 02:34 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 02:33 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
If soO loses to you in the finals it's a real™ GSL VSL = GSL. It is known. INnoVation 3x GSL champion
VSL is the one tournament that I am not sure if is a starleague or a special event.
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On July 24 2017 02:34 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 02:33 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
If soO loses to you in the finals it's a real™ GSL VSL = GSL. It is known. INnoVation 3x GSL champion
Olimoleague = GSL
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United States97276 Posts
uthermal is hatless. I think that confirms he will get btfo
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On July 24 2017 02:33 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
If soO loses to you in the finals it's a real™ GSL
Best GSL
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whatever you call a GSL or not, INno = goat and Zest is top 10 at best
+ Show Spoiler +I'd say it could trigger Olli, but it may be a bit obvious
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
Pretty sure Go4sc2 is a premier event so Nerchio would be the all time GOAT
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On July 24 2017 02:18 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 02:16 Olli wrote:On July 24 2017 02:13 pvsnp wrote:On July 24 2017 02:11 Scarlett` wrote:On July 24 2017 02:05 pvsnp wrote:
Holy shit, Gumiho lost to Zest?
I just got here and didn't bother to check the bracket because I assumed Gumiho won for sure.
*checks liquipedia*
My god, it's true! why is this surprising I'm not a huge fan of Gumiho, so I didn't assume he was invincible or anything. In fact, I think he's pretty inconsistent. But still, the GSL champion losing to a guy who failed to qualify is....unexpected to say the least. Even with his inconsistency his skill floor should be above Zest. And Gumiho said himself that TvP is his best MU. Zest played quite well though. Everyone knows Zest has the potential to beat GuMiho, and anyone else in the world. I find that reaction hard to justify just because he's done poorly for a while. People practice and improve, and in this case you're talking about a 3x GSL champion. He hasn't beaten a good player in an offline match the entire year.
That doesn't refute a single point he made...
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I have to agree. You can say Zest won 3 GSLs and it be true. But it's just misleading, because GSL has different levels of tournaments. Saying someone won GSL normally refers to Code S
So yeah Zest won 2 Code S's
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On July 24 2017 02:35 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 02:34 pvsnp wrote:On July 24 2017 02:33 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
If soO loses to you in the finals it's a real™ GSL VSL = GSL. It is known. INnoVation 3x GSL champion VSL is the one tournament that I am not sure if is a starleague or a special event.
yeah VSL is a really strange beast, I don't know how to count it either
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Austria24417 Posts
On July 24 2017 02:31 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 02:28 Olli wrote:On July 24 2017 02:25 pvsnp wrote:On July 24 2017 02:24 Olli wrote:On July 24 2017 02:23 pvsnp wrote:On July 24 2017 02:21 Olli wrote:On July 24 2017 02:20 pvsnp wrote:On July 24 2017 02:19 Olli wrote:On July 24 2017 02:18 Ej_ wrote:On July 24 2017 02:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
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vs soO, vs TY, and ? And the liberal interpretation of his GSL cup vs PartinG It isn't liberal considering people count 4 GSLs for Mvp and 3 for Life. Which is wrong. The GSL World Championship (that Mvp won) is LITERALLY the WoL version of GSL vs the World. It is not a Code S by any stretch of the imagination and claiming otherwise is simply delusion. And yet it's how the community counts it. Same with Life's Blizzard Cup. So gotta stay consistent. Denial of evolutionary biology is also popular and consistent. Doesn't make it correct. That's a stupid argument. One is a denial of proven facts, the other is you pushing your criteria down others' throats. Please, tell me how a 32-player tournament played over the course of multiple months is functionally or in any other way identical to a 16-player (or less!) weekender. Proven facts. It was a GSL tournament, there are arguments to be made for calling it a GSL. You don't decide what a GSL is. The GSL does, and they counted Mvp's GC as one - thus the G5L trophy. I don't personally care either way, but I'm staying consistent with the way the community has always counted. "Proven facts". It had a three-letter acronym tacked onto the name, and nothing else. Neither of us decide what are the facts. Facts are facts by virtue of being true. That is why they are the facts. And 32 is not equal to 16, any more than three month equals three days. Those are the facts.
And I never said it was. You've done nothing but argue a strawman this entire time. You've ignored everything I've said. So I'm just gonna go ahead and ignore you now.
The fact that you get this obnoxious over a number really says it all.
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United States97276 Posts
VSL Team League should count as a title too since TL Writers said Innovation won it alone this time
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On July 24 2017 02:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 02:35 Ej_ wrote:On July 24 2017 02:34 pvsnp wrote:On July 24 2017 02:33 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
If soO loses to you in the finals it's a real™ GSL VSL = GSL. It is known. INnoVation 3x GSL champion VSL is the one tournament that I am not sure if is a starleague or a special event. yeah VSL is a really strange beast, I don't know how to count it either
It's a Premier Team League with a meme league attached.
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On July 24 2017 02:36 nath wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 02:18 Charoisaur wrote:On July 24 2017 02:16 Olli wrote:On July 24 2017 02:13 pvsnp wrote:On July 24 2017 02:11 Scarlett` wrote:On July 24 2017 02:05 pvsnp wrote:
Holy shit, Gumiho lost to Zest?
I just got here and didn't bother to check the bracket because I assumed Gumiho won for sure.
*checks liquipedia*
My god, it's true! why is this surprising I'm not a huge fan of Gumiho, so I didn't assume he was invincible or anything. In fact, I think he's pretty inconsistent. But still, the GSL champion losing to a guy who failed to qualify is....unexpected to say the least. Even with his inconsistency his skill floor should be above Zest. And Gumiho said himself that TvP is his best MU. Zest played quite well though. Everyone knows Zest has the potential to beat GuMiho, and anyone else in the world. I find that reaction hard to justify just because he's done poorly for a while. People practice and improve, and in this case you're talking about a 3x GSL champion. He hasn't beaten a good player in an offline match the entire year. That doesn't refute a single point he made...
Nobody denies that Zest has the potential. He simply has not shown any sign of using that potential for all of 2017. Until now, at least.
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On July 24 2017 02:37 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 02:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 24 2017 02:35 Ej_ wrote:On July 24 2017 02:34 pvsnp wrote:On July 24 2017 02:33 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
If soO loses to you in the finals it's a real™ GSL VSL = GSL. It is known. INnoVation 3x GSL champion VSL is the one tournament that I am not sure if is a starleague or a special event. yeah VSL is a really strange beast, I don't know how to count it either It's a Premier Team League with a meme league attached.
isn't that SSL ?
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On July 24 2017 02:36 nath wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 02:18 Charoisaur wrote:On July 24 2017 02:16 Olli wrote:On July 24 2017 02:13 pvsnp wrote:On July 24 2017 02:11 Scarlett` wrote:On July 24 2017 02:05 pvsnp wrote:
Holy shit, Gumiho lost to Zest?
I just got here and didn't bother to check the bracket because I assumed Gumiho won for sure.
*checks liquipedia*
My god, it's true! why is this surprising I'm not a huge fan of Gumiho, so I didn't assume he was invincible or anything. In fact, I think he's pretty inconsistent. But still, the GSL champion losing to a guy who failed to qualify is....unexpected to say the least. Even with his inconsistency his skill floor should be above Zest. And Gumiho said himself that TvP is his best MU. Zest played quite well though. Everyone knows Zest has the potential to beat GuMiho, and anyone else in the world. I find that reaction hard to justify just because he's done poorly for a while. People practice and improve, and in this case you're talking about a 3x GSL champion. He hasn't beaten a good player in an offline match the entire year. That doesn't refute a single point he made...
It shows why it's surprising to see him beat Gumiho despite we are all knowing he has the potential.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On July 24 2017 02:37 Shellshock wrote:
VSL Team League should count as a title too since TL Writers said Innovation won it alone this time
Seems like TL writers are back on a roll lately from what I've seen
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On July 24 2017 02:35 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 02:33 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
If soO loses to you in the finals it's a real™ GSL Best GSL
It is extremely interesting that a Kong curse carries over to foreign premiers(IEM, DH), but its full effect in Korean addition still allows you to win special events in SK (Kespa Cup).
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