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On May 29 2015 20:43 c0ldfusion wrote: I know PartinG is good. Nobody denies that but it really feels like Tastosis is riding his dick a little too hard.
herO and maru should be able to take him down herO definitely can take him down. Parting's PvT is godly, though. Parting vs Maru definitely would be an awesome series.
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On May 29 2015 20:55 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:54 newtii wrote:On May 29 2015 20:51 KelsierSC wrote:On May 29 2015 20:47 newtii wrote:On May 29 2015 20:45 DJHelium wrote:On May 29 2015 20:43 KelsierSC wrote:On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Hard to say something about this series without getting banned. Disgusting it's not, parting played really well and rogue made a few mistakes that proved fatal. It gives me the same feeling as mid-late game TvP. Small mistakes from the protoss doesn't mean a lot but small mistakes from the non-protoss can lose you the game. I think ZvP is a very unforgiving matchup atm. Rogue can still make it out, but Gumiho will be a tough opponent! Zergs really should more effort and not just build roaches and a-move. Tbh, their game plan is really lacking. I don't know if you believe what you are writing but it comes across as you trying to "bait" anger out of zerg players. I think the thread as a whole would prefer if you didn't do that. I see by your post count that you are new to the TL community so maybe you are just unfamiliar with the rules and environment of this website. OK, sorry, I just feel that Parting does not get the recognition that he deservers. Parting has more hype behind him than 90% of all pros not on TL though
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On May 29 2015 20:55 Wintex wrote: i hope rogue loses that final match. TERRAAAAAAN
May the Zerg gods forgive me, but so do I >.>
Rogue just isn't as cool as Fantasy or Gumi
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On May 29 2015 20:56 Wintex wrote: i do not believe in Dream as a player, but I want to see parting lose to him. Start believing in the dream man cause it's gonna happen
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Cheering for FanTaSy in the remaining games.
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On May 29 2015 20:52 Baadbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:50 temporary1 wrote: Dont whine about forcefields, whine about zerg's lack of micro potential. In current meta first non a-move thing zerg has is pretty much hive tech, while almost every unit protoss has has some kind of active or spell-esque ability. Players have gotten so much better after WoL that nowadays players can just thrive out of talent and being better in the game.
LotV units address this for all races, so direction they are taking seems good. Best players should win. Well in some way burrow + FFbait + Army positionning is some kind of micro but I believe Rogue's army placement in these two games was below PartinG's
Maybe there is a reason why zerg doesn't individually burrow roaches similar to protoss blink, but that would be micro I meant. Pre-fight army positioning and "great flanks" just doesn't seem like a mentionable micro when we talk about most prestigous tournament there is in Sc2.
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On May 29 2015 20:55 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:54 newtii wrote:On May 29 2015 20:51 KelsierSC wrote:On May 29 2015 20:47 newtii wrote:On May 29 2015 20:45 DJHelium wrote:On May 29 2015 20:43 KelsierSC wrote:On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Hard to say something about this series without getting banned. Disgusting it's not, parting played really well and rogue made a few mistakes that proved fatal. It gives me the same feeling as mid-late game TvP. Small mistakes from the protoss doesn't mean a lot but small mistakes from the non-protoss can lose you the game. I think ZvP is a very unforgiving matchup atm. Rogue can still make it out, but Gumiho will be a tough opponent! Zergs really should more effort and not just build roaches and a-move. Tbh, their game plan is really lacking. I don't know if you believe what you are writing but it comes across as you trying to "bait" anger out of zerg players. I think the thread as a whole would prefer if you didn't do that. I see by your post count that you are new to the TL community so maybe you are just unfamiliar with the rules and environment of this website. OK, sorry, I just feel that Parting does not get the recognition that he deservers. Parting has more hype behind him than 90% of all pros
it won't be enough until he is in the top 3 GOAT
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I'm happy if either Fantasy or Rogue get out behind PartinG. I also understand the Protoss-based frustration, but I'm pretty unsurprised PartinG beat Rogue (anybody really). He is so scarily good right now.
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On May 29 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:56 Wintex wrote: i do not believe in Dream as a player, but I want to see parting lose to him. Start believing in the dream man cause it's gonna happen Dream first dual champion hype ?
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On May 29 2015 20:57 Fuell wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:55 GumBa wrote:On May 29 2015 20:54 newtii wrote:On May 29 2015 20:51 KelsierSC wrote:On May 29 2015 20:47 newtii wrote:On May 29 2015 20:45 DJHelium wrote:On May 29 2015 20:43 KelsierSC wrote:On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Hard to say something about this series without getting banned. Disgusting it's not, parting played really well and rogue made a few mistakes that proved fatal. It gives me the same feeling as mid-late game TvP. Small mistakes from the protoss doesn't mean a lot but small mistakes from the non-protoss can lose you the game. I think ZvP is a very unforgiving matchup atm. Rogue can still make it out, but Gumiho will be a tough opponent! Zergs really should more effort and not just build roaches and a-move. Tbh, their game plan is really lacking. I don't know if you believe what you are writing but it comes across as you trying to "bait" anger out of zerg players. I think the thread as a whole would prefer if you didn't do that. I see by your post count that you are new to the TL community so maybe you are just unfamiliar with the rules and environment of this website. OK, sorry, I just feel that Parting does not get the recognition that he deservers. Parting has more hype behind him than 90% of all pros not on TL though Wat. Every Parting match is juat pages of people praising him and his micro
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On May 29 2015 20:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:46 Gwavajuice wrote:On May 29 2015 20:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Hard to say something about this series without getting banned. Disgusting I feel the same... I know PartinG is good, but that style has just no answer. It has, but rogue has got no result for a reason, he can beat the likes of Fantasy, but when it comes to competing with players like parting, he just doesn't have what it takes (yet) I've seen Z attempt everything against that, infestors, fast ultras, spire, ling roach pressure, hydra ling, 2 base burrow. Everything. I fail to see something that works consistently.
Watch game 4, 7 of life vs parting in GSL Season 1 finals.
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On May 29 2015 20:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:55 ZackAttack wrote: People balance whining should be ashamed. Rouge had that game won twice and threw it away. My hatred for PartinG must blind me. But I feel ZvP is too rough atm.
How could anyone hate Parting? Unless of course you have to play him.
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On May 29 2015 20:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:On May 29 2015 20:56 Wintex wrote: i do not believe in Dream as a player, but I want to see parting lose to him. Start believing in the dream man cause it's gonna happen Dream first dual champion hype ? Dream will need to hone his TvP to extreme heights if this is to happen .
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On May 29 2015 20:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:On May 29 2015 20:56 Wintex wrote: i do not believe in Dream as a player, but I want to see parting lose to him. Start believing in the dream man cause it's gonna happen Dream first dual champion hype ? Would be amazing but that's a stretch because it's so hard D:
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On May 29 2015 20:58 Odowan Paleolithic wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:On May 29 2015 20:46 Gwavajuice wrote:On May 29 2015 20:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Hard to say something about this series without getting banned. Disgusting I feel the same... I know PartinG is good, but that style has just no answer. It has, but rogue has got no result for a reason, he can beat the likes of Fantasy, but when it comes to competing with players like parting, he just doesn't have what it takes (yet) I've seen Z attempt everything against that, infestors, fast ultras, spire, ling roach pressure, hydra ling, 2 base burrow. Everything. I fail to see something that works consistently. Watch game 4, 7 of life vs parting in GSL Season 1. Because 9-pool vs nexus first is something you can produce consistently.
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On May 29 2015 20:58 Odowan Paleolithic wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:On May 29 2015 20:46 Gwavajuice wrote:On May 29 2015 20:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Hard to say something about this series without getting banned. Disgusting I feel the same... I know PartinG is good, but that style has just no answer. It has, but rogue has got no result for a reason, he can beat the likes of Fantasy, but when it comes to competing with players like parting, he just doesn't have what it takes (yet) I've seen Z attempt everything against that, infestors, fast ultras, spire, ling roach pressure, hydra ling, 2 base burrow. Everything. I fail to see something that works consistently. Watch game 4, 7 of life vs parting in GSL Season 1. game 7 was early pool vs Nexus first. I'm not saying nothing works, I'm saying nothing works consistently. Most styles have counterplay, this style has barely any, the Z kind of has to go roach hydra to hold and just can't transition.
Zero denying that PartinG is absurdly good by the way.
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On May 29 2015 20:52 RaFox17 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:50 c0ldfusion wrote: I don't get the balance whine in this thread.
Rogue is just not as good as PartinG. As far as I'm concerned Life is the only relevant zerg and even he is trending downward. There is only one relevant zerg. Could that be a sign of something? Maybe? Eh? When Maru and Taeja were only relevant terrans there were problems. Maybe zerg´s just need to adapt. It's a sign that every other zerg is bad.
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On May 29 2015 20:53 Gwavajuice wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:On May 29 2015 20:46 Gwavajuice wrote:On May 29 2015 20:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Hard to say something about this series without getting banned. Disgusting I feel the same... I know PartinG is good, but that style has just no answer. It has, but rogue has got no result for a reason, he can beat the likes of Fantasy, but when it comes to competing with players like parting, he just doesn't have what it takes (yet) I've seen Z attempt everything against that, infestors, fast ultras, spire, ling roach pressure, hydra ling, 2 base burrow. Everything. I fail to see something that works consistently. it's because it's not about units, it's about macro, micro and execution. Rogue had everything in game 2, simply think about what happends if he pops his roaches out under the sentries instead of splitting them in every bases. But he said "oh yeah I'm gonna outmultitask him" But in the end, not only parting is perfectly fine defending his 3 bases, but he manages to deny the 4th with the voidray and put a darkshrine up. Rather than balance or game design, the only thing that series shows is taht (at the moment) Parting >> Rogue.
Perfectly fine with that analysis.
But I really don't know if Rogue witnessed that. Sentries were ON the choke, he was off with his roaches... I really don't think he witnessed it.
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What Terrans has Parting beaten this year to give him 90%? Only S class terran I remember is Maru
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