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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
May 29 2015 11:57 GMT
#601
On May 29 2015 20:43 c0ldfusion wrote:
I know PartinG is good. Nobody denies that but it really feels like Tastosis is riding his dick a little too hard.

herO and maru should be able to take him down

herO definitely can take him down. Parting's PvT is godly, though. Parting vs Maru definitely would be an awesome series.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
May 29 2015 11:57 GMT
#602
On May 29 2015 20:55 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 20:54 newtii wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:51 KelsierSC wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:47 newtii wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:45 DJHelium wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
Hard to say something about this series without getting banned.
Disgusting


it's not, parting played really well and rogue made a few mistakes that proved fatal.





It gives me the same feeling as mid-late game TvP. Small mistakes from the protoss doesn't mean a lot but small mistakes from the non-protoss can lose you the game.

I think ZvP is a very unforgiving matchup atm.

Rogue can still make it out, but Gumiho will be a tough opponent!


Zergs really should more effort and not just build roaches and a-move. Tbh, their game plan is really lacking.


I don't know if you believe what you are writing but it comes across as you trying to "bait" anger out of zerg players. I think the thread as a whole would prefer if you didn't do that.
I see by your post count that you are new to the TL community so maybe you are just unfamiliar with the rules and environment of this website.


OK, sorry, I just feel that Parting does not get the recognition that he deservers.

Parting has more hype behind him than 90% of all pros

not on TL though
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 29 2015 11:57 GMT
#603
On May 29 2015 20:55 Wintex wrote:
i hope rogue loses that final match. TERRAAAAAAN


May the Zerg gods forgive me, but so do I >.>

Rogue just isn't as cool as Fantasy or Gumi
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 29 2015 11:57 GMT
#604
On May 29 2015 20:56 Wintex wrote:
i do not believe in Dream as a player, but I want to see parting lose to him.

Start believing in the dream man cause it's gonna happen
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24212 Posts
May 29 2015 11:57 GMT
#605
Cheering for FanTaSy in the remaining games.
temporary1
Profile Joined February 2015
69 Posts
May 29 2015 11:57 GMT
#606
On May 29 2015 20:52 Baadbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 20:50 temporary1 wrote:
Dont whine about forcefields, whine about zerg's lack of micro potential. In current meta first non a-move thing zerg has is pretty much hive tech, while almost every unit protoss has has some kind of active or spell-esque ability. Players have gotten so much better after WoL that nowadays players can just thrive out of talent and being better in the game.

LotV units address this for all races, so direction they are taking seems good. Best players should win.



Well in some way burrow + FFbait + Army positionning is some kind of micro but I believe Rogue's army placement in these two games was below PartinG's


Maybe there is a reason why zerg doesn't individually burrow roaches similar to protoss blink, but that would be micro I meant. Pre-fight army positioning and "great flanks" just doesn't seem like a mentionable micro when we talk about most prestigous tournament there is in Sc2.
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
May 29 2015 11:57 GMT
#607
On May 29 2015 20:55 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 20:54 newtii wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:51 KelsierSC wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:47 newtii wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:45 DJHelium wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
Hard to say something about this series without getting banned.
Disgusting


it's not, parting played really well and rogue made a few mistakes that proved fatal.





It gives me the same feeling as mid-late game TvP. Small mistakes from the protoss doesn't mean a lot but small mistakes from the non-protoss can lose you the game.

I think ZvP is a very unforgiving matchup atm.

Rogue can still make it out, but Gumiho will be a tough opponent!


Zergs really should more effort and not just build roaches and a-move. Tbh, their game plan is really lacking.


I don't know if you believe what you are writing but it comes across as you trying to "bait" anger out of zerg players. I think the thread as a whole would prefer if you didn't do that.
I see by your post count that you are new to the TL community so maybe you are just unfamiliar with the rules and environment of this website.


OK, sorry, I just feel that Parting does not get the recognition that he deservers.

Parting has more hype behind him than 90% of all pros


it won't be enough until he is in the top 3 GOAT
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
May 29 2015 11:57 GMT
#608
I'm happy if either Fantasy or Rogue get out behind PartinG. I also understand the Protoss-based frustration, but I'm pretty unsurprised PartinG beat Rogue (anybody really). He is so scarily good right now.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
May 29 2015 11:57 GMT
#609
TvT time!
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24212 Posts
May 29 2015 11:58 GMT
#610
On May 29 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 20:56 Wintex wrote:
i do not believe in Dream as a player, but I want to see parting lose to him.

Start believing in the dream man cause it's gonna happen

Dream first dual champion hype ?
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 29 2015 11:58 GMT
#611
On May 29 2015 20:57 Fuell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 20:55 GumBa wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:54 newtii wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:51 KelsierSC wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:47 newtii wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:45 DJHelium wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
Hard to say something about this series without getting banned.
Disgusting


it's not, parting played really well and rogue made a few mistakes that proved fatal.





It gives me the same feeling as mid-late game TvP. Small mistakes from the protoss doesn't mean a lot but small mistakes from the non-protoss can lose you the game.

I think ZvP is a very unforgiving matchup atm.

Rogue can still make it out, but Gumiho will be a tough opponent!


Zergs really should more effort and not just build roaches and a-move. Tbh, their game plan is really lacking.


I don't know if you believe what you are writing but it comes across as you trying to "bait" anger out of zerg players. I think the thread as a whole would prefer if you didn't do that.
I see by your post count that you are new to the TL community so maybe you are just unfamiliar with the rules and environment of this website.


OK, sorry, I just feel that Parting does not get the recognition that he deservers.

Parting has more hype behind him than 90% of all pros

not on TL though

Wat. Every Parting match is juat pages of people praising him and his micro
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Odowan Paleolithic
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States232 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-29 12:00:04
May 29 2015 11:58 GMT
#612
On May 29 2015 20:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 20:46 Gwavajuice wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
Hard to say something about this series without getting banned.
Disgusting

I feel the same... I know PartinG is good, but that style has just no answer.



It has, but rogue has got no result for a reason, he can beat the likes of Fantasy, but when it comes to competing with players like parting, he just doesn't have what it takes (yet)

I've seen Z attempt everything against that, infestors, fast ultras, spire, ling roach pressure, hydra ling, 2 base burrow. Everything. I fail to see something that works consistently.



Watch game 4, 7 of life vs parting in GSL Season 1 finals.
I need a bigger fridge. I cannot hold all the Cheese that are given to me.
ZackAttack
Profile Joined June 2011
United States884 Posts
May 29 2015 11:59 GMT
#613
On May 29 2015 20:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 20:55 ZackAttack wrote:
People balance whining should be ashamed. Rouge had that game won twice and threw it away.

My hatred for PartinG must blind me. But I feel ZvP is too rough atm.


How could anyone hate Parting? Unless of course you have to play him.
It's better aerodynamics for space. - Artosis
in_flvxx
Profile Joined March 2015
Australia226 Posts
May 29 2015 11:59 GMT
#614
On May 29 2015 20:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:56 Wintex wrote:
i do not believe in Dream as a player, but I want to see parting lose to him.

Start believing in the dream man cause it's gonna happen

Dream first dual champion hype ?

Dream will need to hone his TvP to extreme heights if this is to happen .
Zest | herO || Life | Dark || Bomber | Maru | Dream | TY | Flash
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 29 2015 11:59 GMT
#615
On May 29 2015 20:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 20:57 GumBa wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:56 Wintex wrote:
i do not believe in Dream as a player, but I want to see parting lose to him.

Start believing in the dream man cause it's gonna happen

Dream first dual champion hype ?

Would be amazing but that's a stretch because it's so hard D:
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55554 Posts
May 29 2015 11:59 GMT
#616
On May 29 2015 20:58 Odowan Paleolithic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 20:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:46 Gwavajuice wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
Hard to say something about this series without getting banned.
Disgusting

I feel the same... I know PartinG is good, but that style has just no answer.



It has, but rogue has got no result for a reason, he can beat the likes of Fantasy, but when it comes to competing with players like parting, he just doesn't have what it takes (yet)

I've seen Z attempt everything against that, infestors, fast ultras, spire, ling roach pressure, hydra ling, 2 base burrow. Everything. I fail to see something that works consistently.



Watch game 4, 7 of life vs parting in GSL Season 1.

Because 9-pool vs nexus first is something you can produce consistently.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24212 Posts
May 29 2015 12:00 GMT
#617
On May 29 2015 20:58 Odowan Paleolithic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 20:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:46 Gwavajuice wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
Hard to say something about this series without getting banned.
Disgusting

I feel the same... I know PartinG is good, but that style has just no answer.



It has, but rogue has got no result for a reason, he can beat the likes of Fantasy, but when it comes to competing with players like parting, he just doesn't have what it takes (yet)

I've seen Z attempt everything against that, infestors, fast ultras, spire, ling roach pressure, hydra ling, 2 base burrow. Everything. I fail to see something that works consistently.



Watch game 4, 7 of life vs parting in GSL Season 1.

game 7 was early pool vs Nexus first. I'm not saying nothing works, I'm saying nothing works consistently. Most styles have counterplay, this style has barely any, the Z kind of has to go roach hydra to hold and just can't transition.

Zero denying that PartinG is absurdly good by the way.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
May 29 2015 12:00 GMT
#618
On May 29 2015 20:52 RaFox17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 20:50 c0ldfusion wrote:
I don't get the balance whine in this thread.

Rogue is just not as good as PartinG. As far as I'm concerned Life is the only relevant zerg and even he is trending downward.

There is only one relevant zerg. Could that be a sign of something? Maybe? Eh? When Maru and Taeja were only relevant terrans there were problems. Maybe zerg´s just need to adapt.

It's a sign that every other zerg is bad.
SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
May 29 2015 12:00 GMT
#619
On May 29 2015 20:53 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 20:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:46 Gwavajuice wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
Hard to say something about this series without getting banned.
Disgusting

I feel the same... I know PartinG is good, but that style has just no answer.



It has, but rogue has got no result for a reason, he can beat the likes of Fantasy, but when it comes to competing with players like parting, he just doesn't have what it takes (yet)

I've seen Z attempt everything against that, infestors, fast ultras, spire, ling roach pressure, hydra ling, 2 base burrow. Everything. I fail to see something that works consistently.



it's because it's not about units, it's about macro, micro and execution. Rogue had everything in game 2, simply think about what happends if he pops his roaches out under the sentries instead of splitting them in every bases. But he said "oh yeah I'm gonna outmultitask him"

But in the end, not only parting is perfectly fine defending his 3 bases, but he manages to deny the 4th with the voidray and put a darkshrine up.

Rather than balance or game design, the only thing that series shows is taht (at the moment) Parting >> Rogue.


Perfectly fine with that analysis.

But I really don't know if Rogue witnessed that. Sentries were ON the choke, he was off with his roaches... I really don't think he witnessed it.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 29 2015 12:00 GMT
#620
What Terrans has Parting beaten this year to give him 90%?
Only S class terran I remember is Maru
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
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