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On May 29 2015 20:43 c0ldfusion wrote: I know PartinG is good. Nobody denies that but it really feels like Tastosis is riding his dick a little too hard.
herO and maru should be able to take him down
Since PartinG's PvT is like >90% win rate, I think Maru doesn't have a chance. And now that life is out, PartinG really has a chance to win. But I'm favoring herO and maybe Maru (if PartinG gets eliminated by someone else)
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On May 29 2015 20:46 curutcis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Hard to say something about this series without getting banned. Disgusting I feel the same... I know PartinG is good, but that style has just no answer. I would like to see Parting vs Life with this style... Well we kinda had it last season. Wouldn't be really relevant right now cause Life is not on form.
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On May 29 2015 20:45 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:43 KelsierSC wrote:On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Hard to say something about this series without getting banned. Disgusting it's not, parting played really well and rogue made a few mistakes that proved fatal. It gives me the same feeling as mid-late game TvP. Small mistakes from the protoss doesn't mean a lot but small mistakes from the non-protoss can lose you the game. I think ZvP is a very unforgiving matchup atm. Rogue can still make it out, but Gumiho will be a tough opponent!
Zergs really should more effort and not just build roaches and a-move. Tbh, their game plan is really lacking.
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Parting makes protoss look OP. He should finally win a GSL this season
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On May 29 2015 20:47 newtii wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:45 DJHelium wrote:On May 29 2015 20:43 KelsierSC wrote:On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Hard to say something about this series without getting banned. Disgusting it's not, parting played really well and rogue made a few mistakes that proved fatal. It gives me the same feeling as mid-late game TvP. Small mistakes from the protoss doesn't mean a lot but small mistakes from the non-protoss can lose you the game. I think ZvP is a very unforgiving matchup atm. Rogue can still make it out, but Gumiho will be a tough opponent! Zergs really should more effort and not just build roaches and a-move. Tbh, their game plan is really lacking.
Did you watch the second game?
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On May 29 2015 20:46 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:43 DJHelium wrote:On May 29 2015 20:41 Ramiz1989 wrote:On May 29 2015 20:38 FakePseudo wrote:On May 29 2015 20:36 Ramiz1989 wrote:On May 29 2015 20:33 FakePseudo wrote:On May 29 2015 20:31 Ramiz1989 wrote:On May 29 2015 20:29 KelsierSC wrote: I think Rogue did a good job baiting the force fields out , but there was just too many of them and the army was too cost efficient.
I am not sure why he even baited those Force Fields out when he had burrow moving Roaches. He just kept losing them and at the point he went in with burrow to snipe Sentries and Immortals he has lost quite a few of them. He was perma 200 for the whole time until protoss gathered too much momentum. At that point, any trade, even really bad is actually good for zerg Being 200 in army, and being 200 while having like 20-30 in eggs is different story. Are you really gonna argue that zerg shouldn't take nearly any trade he can in such a situation? Were you watching the same game as me? He didn't trade, he was donating Roaches and lings for few Force Fields that didn't matter in the end at all because he had burrow movement. He had a chance to kill Parting when Parting didn't have a 30 Stalkers, he didn't take that chance and was just "baiting" Force Fields while losing Roaches and Lings. In the end Parting snowballed out of control, that's it. But if he doesn't back off with everything, he will just get part of his army sectioned out and the rest killed off nearly for free. 15 roaches vs 20 blink stalkers wont give you any good trade, it will be a slaughter that favors the protoss. I think Rogue did a good job baiting the forcefields. My whole point is that he didn't need to bait Force Fields when he could've just attacked with 200 supply Roach burrow army. He would've killed every Sentry and Immortal, just like he did in that engagement, but with far less losses because Parting didn't have that big Stalker army then. What he did was baiting Force Fields while getting shredded by Immortals and Stalkers and eventually Parting's army got to big because Rogue wasn't doing anything but baiting Force Fields.
Well I disagree, I think he would've gotten crushed in an engagement with that many forcefields. The reason he could kill sentries/immortals is because Parting was out of forcefields. If he's not he can just start to back off as soon as Rogue starts to burrow and keep putting up forcefield walls.
On May 29 2015 20:47 newtii wrote: Zergs really should more effort and not just build roaches and a-move. Tbh, their game plan is really lacking.
He wasn't just a-moving, he was constantly running back and forth baiting forcefields, trying to get surrounds and utilizing burrow.
Speaking of game 1 now, Rogue just can't transition away from massing roaches because then Parting will notice that Rogue doesn't have enough army and just kill him.
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Sometimes these ff blink wins appear kind of "broken" or w/e but that first game.. I don't see how you dont appreciate the amazing display of skill from Parting. I have heard people talk about bw having mechanics that enable you to outplay an opponent even from a bad position or with fewer units (which SC2 sometimes lack?) and imo it's great to see a player spending so much time perfecting his control and decision making with a specific unit comp. Very happy to have Parting exploiting protoss to the fullest
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On May 29 2015 20:46 Gwavajuice wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Hard to say something about this series without getting banned. Disgusting I feel the same... I know PartinG is good, but that style has just no answer. It has, but rogue has got no result for a reason, he can beat the likes of Fantasy, but when it comes to competing with players like parting, he just doesn't have what it takes (yet) I've seen Z attempt everything against that, infestors, fast ultras, spire, ling roach pressure, hydra ling, 2 base burrow. Everything. I fail to see something that works consistently.
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On May 29 2015 20:47 newtii wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:45 DJHelium wrote:On May 29 2015 20:43 KelsierSC wrote:On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Hard to say something about this series without getting banned. Disgusting it's not, parting played really well and rogue made a few mistakes that proved fatal. It gives me the same feeling as mid-late game TvP. Small mistakes from the protoss doesn't mean a lot but small mistakes from the non-protoss can lose you the game. I think ZvP is a very unforgiving matchup atm. Rogue can still make it out, but Gumiho will be a tough opponent! Zergs really should more effort and not just build roaches and a-move. Tbh, their game plan is really lacking.
Are you and the other guy who spams ellipsis everywhere the same zergtears trollbait? Because it definitely starts to look like it
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It isnt that this style is unbeatable. Rouge lost because he lost his overseer. If he had that he could have a moved and won easy in that first attack.
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Australia18228 Posts
Confident in PartinG getting to finals at least. Should be MyuNgSiK, Dream/ByuL & Bbyong in his bracket
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Life - doesn't prepare, goes out in 4th. PartinG - doesn't prepare, doesn't even lose a map.
:S
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Dont whine about forcefields, whine about zerg's lack of micro potential. In current meta first non a-move thing zerg has is pretty much hive tech, while almost every unit protoss has has some kind of active or spell-esque ability. Players have gotten so much better after WoL that nowadays players can just thrive out of talent and being better in the game.
LotV units address this for all races, so direction they are taking seems good. Best players should win.
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On May 29 2015 20:48 Video2000 wrote:Sometimes these ff blink wins appear kind of "broken" or w/e but that first game.. I don't see how you dont appreciate the amazing display of skill from Parting. I have heard people talk about bw having mechanics that enable you to outplay an opponent even from a bad position or with fewer units (which SC2 sometimes lack?) and imo it's great to see a player spending so much time perfecting his control and decision making with a specific unit comp. Very happy to have Parting exploiting protoss to the fullest 
It is amazing play by him no doubt, just wish there was a reliable counter play to stuff like that. But there is hoping LoTV will change that
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
Parting becoming a bonjwa?
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I don't get the balance whine in this thread.
Rogue is just not as good as PartinG. As far as I'm concerned Life is the only relevant zerg and even he is trending downward.
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I just want to see Parting playing with disruptors and adepts.
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On May 29 2015 20:49 Inflicted wrote: Confident in PartinG getting to finals at least. Should be MyuNgSiK, Dream/ByuL & Bbyong in his bracket
What are the groups matched together or RO8?
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On May 29 2015 20:48 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 20:47 newtii wrote:On May 29 2015 20:45 DJHelium wrote:On May 29 2015 20:43 KelsierSC wrote:On May 29 2015 20:42 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Hard to say something about this series without getting banned. Disgusting it's not, parting played really well and rogue made a few mistakes that proved fatal. It gives me the same feeling as mid-late game TvP. Small mistakes from the protoss doesn't mean a lot but small mistakes from the non-protoss can lose you the game. I think ZvP is a very unforgiving matchup atm. Rogue can still make it out, but Gumiho will be a tough opponent! Zergs really should more effort and not just build roaches and a-move. Tbh, their game plan is really lacking. Did you watch the second game?
Taking game ending damage by DTs because not bothering to scout? Making a horrible attack, part of the army shooting Nexus, shredded by forcefields and storms?
Seems legit.
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