EPTThe whole scene is a joke. Matchfixing is almost happening WEEKLY at this point and no one cares, no one does anything.
Enjoy watching the scripted matches.
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maGicc
Finland134 Posts
The whole scene is a joke. Matchfixing is almost happening WEEKLY at this point and no one cares, no one does anything. Enjoy watching the scripted matches. | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:26 Swoopae wrote: Sure. So call for an investigation along with the rest of us. Basically to put this in say tennis terms, this is like Nadal being a 3-1 favouite over Hewitt to win the match but Hewitt is a favourite to win the first set. It makes no sense. SC2 has maps that have a huge effect on a single game, so it´s really not the same. | ||
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
No, saying "But the betting patterns were TOTALLY suspicious!" is NOT sufficient proof to outright accuse a player of matchfixing. | ||
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fruity.
England1711 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:24 KristofferAG wrote: This tells me nothing. I have never bet on anything ever. Except liquibets. I never got the whole betting thing either. It seems a pretty insidious drug to those who get addicted. | ||
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:26 KristofferAG wrote: So? I'm not gonna damn anyone till there's an official statement following an investigation. It's not my place to decide whether or not the match really was fixed, and who were involved. It's shady as shit, sure, but what if SK wasn't involved? the problem is that offical statements are not happening. match fixing in korea is well known to insiders | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:24 KristofferAG wrote: This tells me nothing. I have never bet on anything ever. Except liquibets. Lets say it like this. Is there any player you think have a huge advantage on a specific map but a big disadvantage in a series (that includes that map)? It doesn't exist. The only explanation is that somebody bet A LOT of money on Soulkey losing map one. So why would someone do that? Even if they knew Creator had a super build for the map, it's not that strange to see Soulkey holding it off. After all, he is the favourite. No, the only sensible reason someone would do it is if they KNEW Soulkey would lose that map. Only one way to know that  | ||
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:28 Paljas wrote: the problem is that offical statements are not happening. match fixing in korea is well known to insiders To who? Give me sources, show me the proof. Repeating stuff you heard on Twitter or saw in a thread somewhere is *NOT* proof. | ||
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Swoopae
Australia339 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:24 KristofferAG wrote: This tells me nothing. I have never bet on anything ever. Except liquibets. The odds suggest If they played 100 bo5 series, Creator would win approx 31 series and Soulkey would win 69 series If they played 100 bo1 maps, Creator would win 74 maps and Soulkey would win 26 maps Does that make any sense that bettors would think that is logical? How can you be a favourite to win the most series if you aren't a favourite to win the most maps? | ||
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:27 KrazyTrumpet wrote: Stop throwing around accusations like "Soulkey is matchfixing!:" without actual fucking proof. No, saying "But the betting patterns were TOTALLY suspicious!" is NOT sufficient proof to outright accuse a player of matchfixing. there is no proof that has a much higher chance than 99% | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:27 maGicc wrote: What a good day to matchfix. Espessialy after MKP showing up in the booth yesterday like nothing ever happened and Wolf saying "there was no evidence, lets just ALL FORGET ABOUT IT" The whole scene is a joke. Matchfixing is almost happening WEEKLY at this point and no one cares, no one does anything. Enjoy watching the scripted matches. Well people are watching wrestling(and I don't mean the Greek-Roman wrestling), right?  Edit> Not sure how is the "proper" wrestling named in English, since you named "ananas" the Pineapple | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24579 Posts
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maGicc
Finland134 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:27 RaFox17 wrote: SC2 has maps that have a huge effect on a single game, so it´s really not the same. Maps have 5% effect on the game at best, we are talking about a solid favorite turning into 30% (or worse) underdog. If you dont have a clue about the betting you shouldnt post foolish comments. | ||
KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:28 DJHelium wrote: Lets say it like this. Is there any player you think have a huge advantage on a specific map but a big disadvantage in a series (that includes that map)? It doesn't exist. The only explanation is that somebody bet A LOT of money on Soulkey losing map one. So why would someone do that? Even if they knew Creator had a super build for the map, it's not that strange to see Soulkey holding it off. After all, he is the favourite. No, the only sensible reason someone would do it is if they KNEW Soulkey would lose that map. Only one way to know that Oh, no, I just didn't get the numbers. I get what they mean sorta, people have said that a couple of times in the thread, I just don't get what the numbers are. Or what a line is. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:29 Heartland wrote: Did I walk into another pinnacle bet void? Yup | ||
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fruity.
England1711 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:29 Heartland wrote: Did I walk into another pinnacle bet void? yes, game 1 sk / creator | ||
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:29 KrazyTrumpet wrote: To who? Give me sources, show me the proof. Repeating stuff you heard on Twitter or saw in a thread somewhere is *NOT* proof. to guys like rekrul or inuh there is no 100% proof because investigations are not happening | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:29 maGicc wrote: Maps have 5% effect on the game at best, we are talking about a solid favorite turning into 30% (or worse) underdog. If you dont have a clue about the betting you shouldnt post foolish comments. Can you show me your source on the 5% effect? | ||
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Penev
28451 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:29 Heartland wrote: Did I walk into another pinnacle bet void? Yep | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24579 Posts
Did something weird happen as well? | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:30 KristofferAG wrote: Oh, no, I just didn't get the numbers. I get what they mean sorta, people have said that a couple of times in the thread, I just don't get what the numbers are. Or what a line is. Ah ok! Say Creator is a 3 to 1 favourite. If you bet 100 dollars on Soulkey, you get 300 dollars back if he wins. If you bet 100 dollars on Creator, you get 100/3=~33 dollars back if he wins. | ||
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