On April 15 2015 21:18 KristofferAG wrote:
What exactly about that match screams match fixing?
What exactly about that match screams match fixing?
The rediculous line movements in the betting
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Penev
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On April 15 2015 21:18 KristofferAG wrote: What exactly about that match screams match fixing? The rediculous line movements in the betting | ||
Nirel
Israel1526 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:18 GumBa wrote: So we have insta switched to SK? looool I'd lol too but it's pretty sad for me, I was just relived about Creator. | ||
Swoopae
Australia339 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:15 Penev wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2015 21:13 Swoopae wrote: Ok so creator wins, KOVU can you please clarify if Creator or Soulkey was the huge favourite in Map 1? Your wording made it unclear it looked to me like you meant that Soulkey was paying $8 to win but if it was the opposite can you clarify that please? Hey Swoopea, did you send an email to Pinnacle for this one? Not until after they cancelled the bets. I was only aware of it because I had a bet on the match through sheer chance. I didn't actually see the absurd line movement on Creator to win map 1 making soulkey an 8-1 underdog in map 1 but a favourite for the series So sad that a GSL champion is a match fixer. A giant fuck you to Kespa for not doing anything to clean their house. | ||
DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:18 GumBa wrote: So we have insta switched to SK? looool KOVU was "an idiot with explaining odds". It was Soulkey that was supposed to lose all along ![]() | ||
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:19 OtherWorld wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2015 21:18 KristofferAG wrote: What exactly about that match screams match fixing? The beauty of match-fixing is that except when very nervous players are involved, it does NOT scream match-fixing. It's easy to lose by making small mistakes. It just feels like people here are totally okay with just accepting that SK is matchfixing, and it's weird. Fair enough that subtle mistakes can lead to a loss without anyone being able to say it was intentional, but I don't get why he's instantly a matchfixer now. | ||
GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend Soulkey vs Creator Game 2? ★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) ★★★- Good game (0) ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs Creator Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:10 OtherWorld wrote: either matchfixing wasn't a reality for this game (ie matchfixers trying to throw Pinnacle off their guard), or Creator somehow manages to win while wanting to lose I guess? That's a very PRIME thing to do. | ||
Swoopae
Australia339 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:18 GumBa wrote: So we have insta switched to SK? looool No, KOVU stated that Soulkey was a huge underdog in the first place but a bunch of people didn't understand what he meant because he didn't use normal betting terminology (hence me asking for clarification a bunch of times) | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:20 Swoopae wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2015 21:15 Penev wrote: On April 15 2015 21:13 Swoopae wrote: Ok so creator wins, KOVU can you please clarify if Creator or Soulkey was the huge favourite in Map 1? Your wording made it unclear it looked to me like you meant that Soulkey was paying $8 to win but if it was the opposite can you clarify that please? Hey Swoopea, did you send an email to Pinnacle for this one? Not until after they cancelled the bets. I was only aware of it because I had a bet on the match through sheer chance. I didn't actually see the absurd line movement on Creator to win map 1 making soulkey an 8-1 underdog in map 1 but a favourite for the series So sad that a GSL champion is a match fixer. A giant fuck you to Kespa for not doing anything to clean their house. Wait so you can say SK is a 100% match fixer now >.< | ||
Elentos
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On April 15 2015 21:20 GumBa wrote: That Guardian shield TT Probably epic misclick trying to hold position T_T | ||
Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:20 KristofferAG wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2015 21:19 OtherWorld wrote: On April 15 2015 21:18 KristofferAG wrote: What exactly about that match screams match fixing? The beauty of match-fixing is that except when very nervous players are involved, it does NOT scream match-fixing. It's easy to lose by making small mistakes. It just feels like people here are totally okay with just accepting that SK is matchfixing, and it's weird. Fair enough that subtle mistakes can lead to a loss without anyone being able to say it was intentional, but I don't get why he's instantly a matchfixer now. People are quick on jumping onto this, but they aren't doing it because of how the game played out, but because the outcome confirmed the betting lines. | ||
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:20 GumBa wrote: That Guardian shield TT Just Protoss stuff ![]() | ||
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
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sagi
Finland346 Posts
On April 15 2015 21:13 Big J wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2015 21:13 DJHelium wrote: Ok so was it Creator that was supposed to throw according to Pinnacle? If that's the case that game made me really happy! Since the bets have been voided he decided to win instead. It's only logical. Yup. I don't see why he wouldn't know the bets are off. Ofc he would then try his best. Just speculating: if he head planned to throw by failing a cannon rush he might not have had any other builds prepared. Might as well do the throw build without the planned mistakes. I know it's not really any proof, but the fact that this game was cannon rush makes the yet again accusation of fixing a match more propable than a "normal" build would. On side not fueling this fire with 0 official reactions keeps gnawing the respectability of the scene little by little. KeSPA / Blizzard really should do/say something as the issue doesn't seem to be fading away on it's own like they are hoping. I'd prefer anything over the silence at this point. edit: apparently the lines were the other way around (for SK to throw)... the rest of what I wrote still stands. | ||
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