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As of page 39, matchfixing discussion is banned from this thread. Please keep that discussion in the relevant thread:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/483048-pinnacle-voids-soulkey-vs-creator-bets
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
April 15 2015 12:15 GMT
#561
On April 15 2015 21:14 KOVU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:14 Swoopae wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:13 DJHelium wrote:
Ok so was it Creator that was supposed to throw according to Pinnacle? If that's the case that game made me really happy!


Kovu didn't make that clear from his post he said 'Soulkey was 8x in map 1' but didn't clarify what that meant

Apparently I'm an idiot with explaining odds. The way the odds showed was that betting 1$ on Soulkey winning map 1 would give back 8$ if he won.

In that regard the Map 1 odds showed that Soulkey was by far the underdog. But the odds for the entire series Creator was the underdog according to the odds.

Bare in mind that the odds changed from Soulkey favored to BIG underdog within a short period of time.


well fuck
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28527 Posts
April 15 2015 12:15 GMT
#562
On April 15 2015 21:13 Swoopae wrote:
Ok so creator wins, KOVU can you please clarify if Creator or Soulkey was the huge favourite in Map 1? Your wording made it unclear it looked to me like you meant that Soulkey was paying $8 to win but if it was the opposite can you clarify that please?

Hey Swoopea, did you send an email to Pinnacle for this one?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
April 15 2015 12:15 GMT
#563
On April 15 2015 21:14 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:14 Nirel wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:13 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:13 DJHelium wrote:
Ok so was it Creator that was supposed to throw according to Pinnacle? If that's the case that game made me really happy!

I don't see why it should...

Creator didn't throw.

Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:09 sharkie wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:08 GumBa wrote:
If creator wins what does it all mean?


That very shady and angry people will visit Creator... :/

If he was supposed to throw and didn't, well I'm afraid for him^^

Hopefully they just tried throwing the betting industry for a loop.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
April 15 2015 12:15 GMT
#564
Prime not the worst team in proleague and now they have 2 players on a Code S level. This is the strongest they've looked since early 2013.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3490 Posts
April 15 2015 12:16 GMT
#565
Is it just me or are they super underestimating Creator? He's pretty much become the ace of Prime and is on the rise.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28527 Posts
April 15 2015 12:16 GMT
#566
On April 15 2015 21:14 KOVU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:14 Swoopae wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:13 DJHelium wrote:
Ok so was it Creator that was supposed to throw according to Pinnacle? If that's the case that game made me really happy!


Kovu didn't make that clear from his post he said 'Soulkey was 8x in map 1' but didn't clarify what that meant

Apparently I'm an idiot with explaining odds. The way the odds showed was that betting 1$ on Soulkey winning map 1 would give back 8$ if he won.

In that regard the Map 1 odds showed that Soulkey was by far the underdog. But the odds for the entire series Creator was the underdog according to the odds.

Bare in mind that the odds changed from Soulkey favored to BIG underdog within a short period of time.

Holy crap. RIP Soulkey fuck
I Protoss winner, could it be?
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 15 2015 12:16 GMT
#567
Creator looked match fixing in the eye. And said not today!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
April 15 2015 12:16 GMT
#568
On April 15 2015 21:14 KOVU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:14 Swoopae wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:13 DJHelium wrote:
Ok so was it Creator that was supposed to throw according to Pinnacle? If that's the case that game made me really happy!


Kovu didn't make that clear from his post he said 'Soulkey was 8x in map 1' but didn't clarify what that meant

Apparently I'm an idiot with explaining odds. The way the odds showed was that betting 1$ on Soulkey winning map 1 would give back 8$ if he won.

In that regard the Map 1 odds showed that Soulkey was by far the underdog. But the odds for the entire series Creator was the underdog according to the odds.

Bare in mind that the odds changed from Soulkey favored to BIG underdog within a short period of time.


Uh....Oh
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
April 15 2015 12:16 GMT
#569
On April 15 2015 21:15 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:14 KOVU wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:14 Swoopae wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:13 DJHelium wrote:
Ok so was it Creator that was supposed to throw according to Pinnacle? If that's the case that game made me really happy!


Kovu didn't make that clear from his post he said 'Soulkey was 8x in map 1' but didn't clarify what that meant

Apparently I'm an idiot with explaining odds. The way the odds showed was that betting 1$ on Soulkey winning map 1 would give back 8$ if he won.

In that regard the Map 1 odds showed that Soulkey was by far the underdog. But the odds for the entire series Creator was the underdog according to the odds.

Bare in mind that the odds changed from Soulkey favored to BIG underdog within a short period of time.


well fuck

Well fuck me too than
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 15 2015 12:16 GMT
#570
On April 15 2015 21:16 ejozl wrote:
Is it just me or are they super underestimating Creator? He's pretty much become the ace of Prime and is on the rise.

Creator's PvZ is pretty bad, although a lot of it is nerve issues.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 15 2015 12:16 GMT
#571
On April 15 2015 21:14 KOVU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:14 Swoopae wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:13 DJHelium wrote:
Ok so was it Creator that was supposed to throw according to Pinnacle? If that's the case that game made me really happy!


Kovu didn't make that clear from his post he said 'Soulkey was 8x in map 1' but didn't clarify what that meant

Apparently I'm an idiot with explaining odds. The way the odds showed was that betting 1$ on Soulkey winning map 1 would give back 8$ if he won.

In that regard the Map 1 odds showed that Soulkey was by far the underdog. But the odds for the entire series Creator was the underdog according to the odds.

Bare in mind that the odds changed from Soulkey favored to BIG underdog within a short period of time.

oh ok :/
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Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
April 15 2015 12:17 GMT
#572
On April 15 2015 21:16 GumBa wrote:
Creator looked match fixing in the eye. And said not today!

And apparently Soulkey said sure why not...
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28527 Posts
April 15 2015 12:18 GMT
#573
On April 15 2015 21:16 GumBa wrote:
Creator looked match fixing in the eye. And said not today!

Unfortunately we're talking Soulkey now though :/
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Swoopae
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia339 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 12:18:33
April 15 2015 12:18 GMT
#574
On April 15 2015 21:14 KOVU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:14 Swoopae wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:13 DJHelium wrote:
Ok so was it Creator that was supposed to throw according to Pinnacle? If that's the case that game made me really happy!


Kovu didn't make that clear from his post he said 'Soulkey was 8x in map 1' but didn't clarify what that meant

Apparently I'm an idiot with explaining odds. The way the odds showed was that betting 1$ on Soulkey winning map 1 would give back 8$ if he won.

In that regard the Map 1 odds showed that Soulkey was by far the underdog. But the odds for the entire series Creator was the underdog according to the odds.

Bare in mind that the odds changed from Soulkey favored to BIG underdog within a short period of time.


Yeah. Ok. So Soulkey was the match fixing suspect and went from a 2-1 favourite to 8-1 underdog then lost.

That sucks, I was hoping we weren't right and Creator was 8.00 but if Soulkey paid 8.00 in Map 1 and lost it was fixed

FU Soulkey. Burn him with the rest of the match fixing scum.

Do you happen to have a screenshot to clarify betting line etc for people who want a picture? I've emailed Pinnacle.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 15 2015 12:18 GMT
#575
What exactly about that match screams match fixing?
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Backlash
Profile Joined August 2008
Australia61 Posts
April 15 2015 12:18 GMT
#576
that took ages to figure out and i was getting a headache going through the pages.

now i prefer to have the head ache.. please not SK
(MT) Esc- prOxi. || JulyZerg - "I pressed the right button like I was dying"
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 15 2015 12:18 GMT
#577
So we have insta switched to SK? looool
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 15 2015 12:19 GMT
#578
On April 15 2015 21:18 KristofferAG wrote:
What exactly about that match screams match fixing?

The beauty of match-fixing is that except when very nervous players are involved, it does NOT scream match-fixing. It's easy to lose by making small mistakes.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
April 15 2015 12:19 GMT
#579
On April 15 2015 21:18 KristofferAG wrote:
What exactly about that match screams match fixing?

Only the betting lines. Not like Soulkey did any obvious throws.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
April 15 2015 12:19 GMT
#580
On April 15 2015 21:18 KristofferAG wrote:
What exactly about that match screams match fixing?

the odds
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