• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:49
CEST 03:49
KST 10:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway112v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature3Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event18Serral wins EWC 202549
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!10Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments7
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread 2v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature Playing 1v1 for Cash? (Read before comment) Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again! What mix of new and old maps do you want in the next 1v1 ladder pool? (SC2) :
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion ASL 20 HYPE VIDEO! New season has just come in ladder [ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro24 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro24 Group A BWCL Season 63 Announcement
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Biochemical Cost of Gami…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1665 users

[Code A] Day 7 Season 2 2015 - Page 29

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 31 44 Next All
As of page 39, matchfixing discussion is banned from this thread. Please keep that discussion in the relevant thread:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/483048-pinnacle-voids-soulkey-vs-creator-bets
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
April 15 2015 12:15 GMT
#561
On April 15 2015 21:14 KOVU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:14 Swoopae wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:13 DJHelium wrote:
Ok so was it Creator that was supposed to throw according to Pinnacle? If that's the case that game made me really happy!


Kovu didn't make that clear from his post he said 'Soulkey was 8x in map 1' but didn't clarify what that meant

Apparently I'm an idiot with explaining odds. The way the odds showed was that betting 1$ on Soulkey winning map 1 would give back 8$ if he won.

In that regard the Map 1 odds showed that Soulkey was by far the underdog. But the odds for the entire series Creator was the underdog according to the odds.

Bare in mind that the odds changed from Soulkey favored to BIG underdog within a short period of time.


well fuck
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
April 15 2015 12:15 GMT
#562
On April 15 2015 21:13 Swoopae wrote:
Ok so creator wins, KOVU can you please clarify if Creator or Soulkey was the huge favourite in Map 1? Your wording made it unclear it looked to me like you meant that Soulkey was paying $8 to win but if it was the opposite can you clarify that please?

Hey Swoopea, did you send an email to Pinnacle for this one?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
April 15 2015 12:15 GMT
#563
On April 15 2015 21:14 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:14 Nirel wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:13 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:13 DJHelium wrote:
Ok so was it Creator that was supposed to throw according to Pinnacle? If that's the case that game made me really happy!

I don't see why it should...

Creator didn't throw.

Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:09 sharkie wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:08 GumBa wrote:
If creator wins what does it all mean?


That very shady and angry people will visit Creator... :/

If he was supposed to throw and didn't, well I'm afraid for him^^

Hopefully they just tried throwing the betting industry for a loop.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
April 15 2015 12:15 GMT
#564
Prime not the worst team in proleague and now they have 2 players on a Code S level. This is the strongest they've looked since early 2013.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3394 Posts
April 15 2015 12:16 GMT
#565
Is it just me or are they super underestimating Creator? He's pretty much become the ace of Prime and is on the rise.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
April 15 2015 12:16 GMT
#566
On April 15 2015 21:14 KOVU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:14 Swoopae wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:13 DJHelium wrote:
Ok so was it Creator that was supposed to throw according to Pinnacle? If that's the case that game made me really happy!


Kovu didn't make that clear from his post he said 'Soulkey was 8x in map 1' but didn't clarify what that meant

Apparently I'm an idiot with explaining odds. The way the odds showed was that betting 1$ on Soulkey winning map 1 would give back 8$ if he won.

In that regard the Map 1 odds showed that Soulkey was by far the underdog. But the odds for the entire series Creator was the underdog according to the odds.

Bare in mind that the odds changed from Soulkey favored to BIG underdog within a short period of time.

Holy crap. RIP Soulkey fuck
I Protoss winner, could it be?
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 15 2015 12:16 GMT
#567
Creator looked match fixing in the eye. And said not today!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
April 15 2015 12:16 GMT
#568
On April 15 2015 21:14 KOVU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:14 Swoopae wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:13 DJHelium wrote:
Ok so was it Creator that was supposed to throw according to Pinnacle? If that's the case that game made me really happy!


Kovu didn't make that clear from his post he said 'Soulkey was 8x in map 1' but didn't clarify what that meant

Apparently I'm an idiot with explaining odds. The way the odds showed was that betting 1$ on Soulkey winning map 1 would give back 8$ if he won.

In that regard the Map 1 odds showed that Soulkey was by far the underdog. But the odds for the entire series Creator was the underdog according to the odds.

Bare in mind that the odds changed from Soulkey favored to BIG underdog within a short period of time.


Uh....Oh
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
April 15 2015 12:16 GMT
#569
On April 15 2015 21:15 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:14 KOVU wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:14 Swoopae wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:13 DJHelium wrote:
Ok so was it Creator that was supposed to throw according to Pinnacle? If that's the case that game made me really happy!


Kovu didn't make that clear from his post he said 'Soulkey was 8x in map 1' but didn't clarify what that meant

Apparently I'm an idiot with explaining odds. The way the odds showed was that betting 1$ on Soulkey winning map 1 would give back 8$ if he won.

In that regard the Map 1 odds showed that Soulkey was by far the underdog. But the odds for the entire series Creator was the underdog according to the odds.

Bare in mind that the odds changed from Soulkey favored to BIG underdog within a short period of time.


well fuck

Well fuck me too than
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 15 2015 12:16 GMT
#570
On April 15 2015 21:16 ejozl wrote:
Is it just me or are they super underestimating Creator? He's pretty much become the ace of Prime and is on the rise.

Creator's PvZ is pretty bad, although a lot of it is nerve issues.
Community News
TL+ Member
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 15 2015 12:16 GMT
#571
On April 15 2015 21:14 KOVU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:14 Swoopae wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:13 DJHelium wrote:
Ok so was it Creator that was supposed to throw according to Pinnacle? If that's the case that game made me really happy!


Kovu didn't make that clear from his post he said 'Soulkey was 8x in map 1' but didn't clarify what that meant

Apparently I'm an idiot with explaining odds. The way the odds showed was that betting 1$ on Soulkey winning map 1 would give back 8$ if he won.

In that regard the Map 1 odds showed that Soulkey was by far the underdog. But the odds for the entire series Creator was the underdog according to the odds.

Bare in mind that the odds changed from Soulkey favored to BIG underdog within a short period of time.

oh ok :/
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
April 15 2015 12:17 GMT
#572
On April 15 2015 21:16 GumBa wrote:
Creator looked match fixing in the eye. And said not today!

And apparently Soulkey said sure why not...
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
April 15 2015 12:18 GMT
#573
On April 15 2015 21:16 GumBa wrote:
Creator looked match fixing in the eye. And said not today!

Unfortunately we're talking Soulkey now though :/
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Swoopae
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia339 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 12:18:33
April 15 2015 12:18 GMT
#574
On April 15 2015 21:14 KOVU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:14 Swoopae wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:13 DJHelium wrote:
Ok so was it Creator that was supposed to throw according to Pinnacle? If that's the case that game made me really happy!


Kovu didn't make that clear from his post he said 'Soulkey was 8x in map 1' but didn't clarify what that meant

Apparently I'm an idiot with explaining odds. The way the odds showed was that betting 1$ on Soulkey winning map 1 would give back 8$ if he won.

In that regard the Map 1 odds showed that Soulkey was by far the underdog. But the odds for the entire series Creator was the underdog according to the odds.

Bare in mind that the odds changed from Soulkey favored to BIG underdog within a short period of time.


Yeah. Ok. So Soulkey was the match fixing suspect and went from a 2-1 favourite to 8-1 underdog then lost.

That sucks, I was hoping we weren't right and Creator was 8.00 but if Soulkey paid 8.00 in Map 1 and lost it was fixed

FU Soulkey. Burn him with the rest of the match fixing scum.

Do you happen to have a screenshot to clarify betting line etc for people who want a picture? I've emailed Pinnacle.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 15 2015 12:18 GMT
#575
What exactly about that match screams match fixing?
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Backlash
Profile Joined August 2008
Australia61 Posts
April 15 2015 12:18 GMT
#576
that took ages to figure out and i was getting a headache going through the pages.

now i prefer to have the head ache.. please not SK
(MT) Esc- prOxi. || JulyZerg - "I pressed the right button like I was dying"
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 15 2015 12:18 GMT
#577
So we have insta switched to SK? looool
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 15 2015 12:19 GMT
#578
On April 15 2015 21:18 KristofferAG wrote:
What exactly about that match screams match fixing?

The beauty of match-fixing is that except when very nervous players are involved, it does NOT scream match-fixing. It's easy to lose by making small mistakes.
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
April 15 2015 12:19 GMT
#579
On April 15 2015 21:18 KristofferAG wrote:
What exactly about that match screams match fixing?

Only the betting lines. Not like Soulkey did any obvious throws.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
April 15 2015 12:19 GMT
#580
On April 15 2015 21:18 KristofferAG wrote:
What exactly about that match screams match fixing?

the odds
TL+ Member
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 31 44 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Monday
00:00
#45
PiGStarcraft493
SteadfastSC113
rockletztv 46
davetesta34
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft493
Nina 160
SteadfastSC 113
RuFF_SC2 99
Livibee 15
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 825
NaDa 70
ggaemo 63
Icarus 5
Dota 2
monkeys_forever766
League of Legends
Reynor75
Trikslyr71
Counter-Strike
Fnx 1373
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox587
Other Games
summit1g10895
C9.Mang0595
ViBE245
Maynarde142
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1248
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH150
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Counter-Strike
• Shiphtur140
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
8h 11m
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
9h 11m
Clem vs goblin
ByuN vs SHIN
Online Event
22h 11m
The PondCast
1d 8h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 9h
Zoun vs Bunny
herO vs Solar
Replay Cast
1d 22h
LiuLi Cup
2 days
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
[ Show More ]
SC Evo League
3 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
Classic vs Percival
Spirit vs NightMare
[BSL 2025] Weekly
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
SC Evo League
4 days
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Queen vs HyuN
EffOrt vs Calm
Wardi Open
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Rush vs TBD
Jaedong vs Mong
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Jiahua Invitational
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
EC S1
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.