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Discussion of Naniwa's mental health (unless you know him personally or you email me your phd diploma) after page 96 will be dealt with severely. I suggest you talk about the games instead.
limbonic
Profile Joined December 2012
70 Posts
January 10 2015 06:53 GMT
#1921
On January 10 2015 11:12 Homunculus159 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 11:04 TheNewEra wrote:
so I didn't watch the games between Happy and Nani but basically the TL;DR seems to be: Nani was in his right but a complete douche about it, right?



Pretty much just like with the Rifkin incident actually


oh my, give me a break...

-

so many of you guys are overreacting. saying SC2 can't be professional as long as we have dramas like this is ridiculous. does anyone of you follow "real" sports? totally no drama there, right? totally no football players behaving unprofessionally and being suspended, right?

it's the personalities that polarize, personalities that are a little off the norm that make the whole scene revolving the game interesting. call me immature, but i like people showing sparks of emotion, be it in a positive or negative way. this does not mean that i have to condone certain actions - in fact, naniwa's behavior at IEM pissed me off. yet, i am still happy that he is back.

players are free to direct complaints towards tournament organizers regarding naniwa's behavior. if they see fit to suspend people like him, then that's fine. still, i would rather have them not take action - it's for the better of the whole community. don't take everything all so persoanlly...
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
January 10 2015 07:22 GMT
#1922
Naniwa has never (afaik) bitten anyone, so he's better than Suarez or Tyson. Not kicked anyone like Cantona.
Balotelli makes lots of drama too.
HOLY CHECK!
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
January 10 2015 07:29 GMT
#1923
On January 10 2015 16:22 Lonyo wrote:
Naniwa has never (afaik) bitten anyone, so he's better than Suarez or Tyson. Not kicked anyone like Cantona.
Balotelli makes lots of drama too.


he probe rushed and showed lack of respect for koreans/ is bm from to time on the interwebz.

literally hitler.




Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
January 10 2015 07:52 GMT
#1924
Just fou d out about this. Km realy happy naniwa made it. Yeah he can BM and create drama, but the kind of drama he creates is actually good for the game, it draws attention, feelings, it creates storylines and rivalry.

On top of that he's the best foreigner alongisde stephano in the history of sc2 and it looks he's still pretty good, I'm glad for him.
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Gothic
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden122 Posts
January 10 2015 07:54 GMT
#1925
On January 10 2015 14:57 Pandain wrote:
Naniwa's PvT looked like the best in Europe. It's been a while since I've seen someone take a PvT game like vs Happy game one.

My favorite thing is for the brief minute when it looked like he might have a stable 4-5 base income and be maxed, he started making Stargate tech.

But he didn't stick to it after they traded armies and he then continued to focus on stalker collusus.


I noticed that too. Was asking myself first why he made the stargate and then no units from it, then I smiled as I realized it takes a good player to make a decision like that. There was no need to change a winning tactic, even if he'd spent some money on the new tech.
In the age of the internet, attaching a famous name to your personal opinion to give more weight to it is a very valid strategy. - Benjamin Franklin
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 08:17:50
January 10 2015 08:16 GMT
#1926
For the sake of SC2, I hope Nani does well. On a personal level, I hope Snute beats him with a three-hour long SH game followed by an 8 pool.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
w3c.TruE
Profile Joined November 2013
Czech Republic1055 Posts
January 10 2015 08:55 GMT
#1927
I'm looking forward to the new Nani builds!
Dream, Dark, herO, PartinG, RorO, Bbyong, Rain, soO, PtitDrogo <3. Goodbye RorO, MC you were awesome! You will be remembered!
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
January 10 2015 09:41 GMT
#1928
wow great unnecessary insults on twitter dmitry, really. so disappointed in happy. hope he still qualifies like him a lot as a player.

on the other hand nani's back baby! well done <3
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
January 10 2015 10:01 GMT
#1929
This is going to be one hell of a season. This thread is just the start
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 10 2015 10:03 GMT
#1930
What happened with Naniwa? What's the incident with Happy?
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Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
January 10 2015 10:22 GMT
#1931
On January 10 2015 19:03 OtherWorld wrote:
What happened with Naniwa? What's the incident with Happy?

Happy held Naniwa's push in game 2 by building like 3 bunkers. Apparently a few extra sentries and an early nexus cannon it's all the info he had (idk how important that is), so naniwa accused him of streamcheating from the russian stream, since they were streaming with no delay( or pretty low delay).

All casters were kicked from game 3 besides basetradeTV I guess because they are trustworthy and have a long delay.

Shitstorm was brewing, and then game 3 ended and nani/happy headed to twitter it was pretty intense.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
January 10 2015 10:35 GMT
#1932
dat banner hahahah
yo
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 10 2015 10:47 GMT
#1933
On January 10 2015 11:26 messioso wrote:
That was a fun evening.


It was the best in a long time! Credit to you for making it happen!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 10 2015 10:51 GMT
#1934
On January 10 2015 16:54 Gothic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 14:57 Pandain wrote:
Naniwa's PvT looked like the best in Europe. It's been a while since I've seen someone take a PvT game like vs Happy game one.

My favorite thing is for the brief minute when it looked like he might have a stable 4-5 base income and be maxed, he started making Stargate tech.

But he didn't stick to it after they traded armies and he then continued to focus on stalker collusus.


I noticed that too. Was asking myself first why he made the stargate and then no units from it, then I smiled as I realized it takes a good player to make a decision like that. There was no need to change a winning tactic, even if he'd spent some money on the new tech.

What game was it? Nani v Happy G1?
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 10 2015 10:55 GMT
#1935
On January 10 2015 19:22 Epamynondas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 19:03 OtherWorld wrote:
What happened with Naniwa? What's the incident with Happy?

Happy held Naniwa's push in game 2 by building like 3 bunkers. Apparently a few extra sentries and an early nexus cannon it's all the info he had (idk how important that is), so naniwa accused him of streamcheating from the russian stream, since they were streaming with no delay( or pretty low delay).

All casters were kicked from game 3 besides basetradeTV I guess because they are trustworthy and have a long delay.

Shitstorm was brewing, and then game 3 ended and nani/happy headed to twitter it was pretty intense.

Oh ok, thanks. Looking at the twitters I must say it's pretty entertaining.
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Johnnyq
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany21 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 11:02:10
January 10 2015 10:55 GMT
#1936
I don't see what the fuss is about. Fact is the RUS stream had not enough delay. And it is valid for nani to think of the possibility of stream-cheating after Happy had the perfect defense without any tell and therefore demand for safer game conditions. Why is that a "drama"? If anything you guys should blame the rus streamer for unprofessional behaviour.

I think the Nani's push in game 2 was incredibly strong and without 3 bunkers, there is no way to hold that. His positioning + uni composition + micro where over the top.
I'll have you know, that in the field of physics, we work with particles so small, they make fat jokes about the locus coeruleus!
pretender58
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany713 Posts
January 10 2015 10:57 GMT
#1937
On January 10 2015 15:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So besides Lillekanin vs Minato obviously, which VODs are worth looking up?

Dayshi vs serral game 3 is worth watching
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
January 10 2015 11:01 GMT
#1938
On January 10 2015 19:55 Johnnyq wrote:
I don't see what the fuss is about. Fact is the RUS stream had not enough delay. And it is valid for nani to think of the possibility of stream-cheating after Happy had the perfect defense without any tell and therefore demand for safer game conditions. Why is that a "drama"? If anything you guys should blame the rus streamer for unprofessional behaviour.


It's not without any tell. He saw that the only units naniwa had were 2 sentries. When you play normally , usually at that timing you have 1 sentry and 1 stalker, you don't need 2 sentries especially in nimbus where you can block the whole ramp with 1 forcefield. Also if Happy was stream cheating, he wouldn't be totally unprepared for naniwa's DT drop (which still did 0 damage because he chose to warp only 1 dt, but happy couldn't know that beforehand).

It's valid to "think" about it. It's not valid to ragequit and publicly accuse your opponent on stream without any proof. A normal person would have politely asked the admin to check that every stream had delay and that's it. In that case there wouldn't have been any drama at all.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 10 2015 11:02 GMT
#1939
If Naniwa qualifying builds a fuck ton of hype for the tournament and people are in the LR slaughtering cattle and burning images of his enemies, then I will be really happy he qualified
Zerg for Life
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 10 2015 11:04 GMT
#1940
Naniwa left every game without GG, so calling it a ragequit is odd.

Also, the only reason there is drama is the people in threads like this one not shutting up about it.
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