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Russian Federation2 Posts
On January 11 2015 00:52 AnexisVerdi wrote:
Russian streamers and and Russian sc2-scene . I hat it even more than you guys . I was banned from GOODGAME.ru forever by unmanner , but i cant keep it myself . They really unadekvate and awful players and people, who can only talk s*it . I was always been flamed by every Russian caster , every game , every time . I hate em so much .
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Goodgame.ru ( unrespect to players who stream for their portal for 3 years , banned me and flaming every stream ) You forget to say that on your streams you flame and ban viewers for no reason (just because they do not donate). Most of your viewers are from Russia. So, what did you expect from them?
Russian community gave you so many chances to improve your behavior. How many warnings did you get before ban on goodgame.ru? How many times were you banned for several days?
In real you act as a complete retard. Thus you deserve all you get and you know that. Be a man, stop crying.
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On January 11 2015 07:29 Gothic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 07:18 Paljas wrote:
dont get all the drama,
calling other people hackers is just part of swedish culture. I had a comeback to that one, but I won't. Seriously, does this kind of crap belong on TL?
Does calling a well accomplished progamer a cheater belong in sc2 proscene?
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On January 11 2015 09:59 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 07:29 Gothic wrote:On January 11 2015 07:18 Paljas wrote:
dont get all the drama,
calling other people hackers is just part of swedish culture. I had a comeback to that one, but I won't. Seriously, does this kind of crap belong on TL? Does calling a well accomplished progamer a cheater belong in sc2 proscene?
It does if its proportionate to the information and situation.
if naniwa had made a thread on tl, reddit and tweeted about it because Happy threw down three bunkers in one game, that's just just stupid
if naniwa talks about it in a post-game lobby (which I'm not sure if is supposed to be private or not?) then it's more debatable. If it's supposed to be a private conversation then yeah, it has a part on the proscene. You put your suspicions forth (however bluntly) and the matter gets investigated. If it wasn't a private conversation then yeah it's a pretty shitty thing to do IMO (though not as bad as the example above, and I feel like a lot of people are judging naniwa like he did that).
e: also, hacking and cheating are being a very discussed topic in this season's qualifiers, with demuslim even accusing an opponent of maphacks, and after the CS:GO cheating scandals, I personally don't feel comfortable saying someone can't be cheating just because they're well acomplished. That said I don't think Happy was ghosting, and that Naniwa went too far and was too insulting towards Happy. But he was right in forcing casters out(who created the whole situation in the first place by not following the rules OR common sense)
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On January 11 2015 10:17 Epamynondas wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 09:59 Luolis wrote:On January 11 2015 07:29 Gothic wrote:On January 11 2015 07:18 Paljas wrote:
dont get all the drama,
calling other people hackers is just part of swedish culture. I had a comeback to that one, but I won't. Seriously, does this kind of crap belong on TL? Does calling a well accomplished progamer a cheater belong in sc2 proscene? It does if its proportionate to the information and situation. if naniwa had made a thread on tl, reddit and tweeted about it because Happy threw down three bunkers in one game, that's just just stupid if naniwa talks about it in a post-game lobby (which I'm not sure if is supposed to be private or not?) then it's more debatable. If it's supposed to be a private conversation then yeah, it has a part on the proscene. You put your suspicions forth (however bluntly) and the matter gets investigated. If it wasn't a private conversation then yeah it's a pretty shitty thing to do IMO (though not as bad as the example above, and I feel like a lot of people are judging naniwa like he did that). e: also, hacking and cheating are being a very discussed topic in this season's qualifiers, with demuslim even accusing an opponent of maphacks, and after the CS:GO cheating scandals, I personally don't feel comfortable saying someone can't be cheating just because they're well acomplished. That said I don't think Happy was ghosting, and that Naniwa went too far and was too insulting towards Happy. But he was right in forcing casters out(who created the whole situation in the first place by not following the rules OR common sense)
I think Naniwa also later said something along the lines of "you dont play so well without russian stream" in twitter to happy later.
Also hacking and cheating are sure a discussed topic, but its much harder in SC2 to actually maphack in the pro level than it is in CSGO.
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On January 11 2015 09:59 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 07:29 Gothic wrote:On January 11 2015 07:18 Paljas wrote:
dont get all the drama,
calling other people hackers is just part of swedish culture. I had a comeback to that one, but I won't. Seriously, does this kind of crap belong on TL? Does calling a well accomplished progamer a cheater belong in sc2 proscene?
What does that have to do with me remarking on someone generalizing about Swedish culture (it was apparently a joke which I didn't get, but anyway)? Kindly put your strawman back on the shelf, sir.
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On January 11 2015 10:43 Gothic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 09:59 Luolis wrote:On January 11 2015 07:29 Gothic wrote:On January 11 2015 07:18 Paljas wrote:
dont get all the drama,
calling other people hackers is just part of swedish culture. I had a comeback to that one, but I won't. Seriously, does this kind of crap belong on TL? Does calling a well accomplished progamer a cheater belong in sc2 proscene? What does that have to do with me remarking on someone generalizing about Swedish culture (it was apparently a joke which I didn't get, but anyway)? Kindly put your strawman back on the shelf, sir.
Its a joke on the Naniwa offensive handshake thing. (People saying that the winner going to handshake the loser is considered bm in swedish culture)
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United States97274 Posts
On January 11 2015 10:43 Dodgin wrote:
Naniwa is such a god.
Don't insult naniwa by dropping him to Flash's level
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On January 11 2015 10:47 Shellshock wrote:Don't insult naniwa by dropping him to Flash's level
Dont insult elfi by comparing him to Naniwa and Flash.
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On January 11 2015 10:47 Shellshock wrote:Don't insult naniwa by dropping him to Flash's level
you guys
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On January 11 2015 10:44 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 10:43 Gothic wrote:On January 11 2015 09:59 Luolis wrote:On January 11 2015 07:29 Gothic wrote:On January 11 2015 07:18 Paljas wrote:
dont get all the drama,
calling other people hackers is just part of swedish culture. I had a comeback to that one, but I won't. Seriously, does this kind of crap belong on TL? Does calling a well accomplished progamer a cheater belong in sc2 proscene? What does that have to do with me remarking on someone generalizing about Swedish culture (it was apparently a joke which I didn't get, but anyway)? Kindly put your strawman back on the shelf, sir. Its a joke on the Naniwa offensive handshake thing. (People saying that the winner going to handshake the loser is considered bm in swedish culture)
Alright, then at least I get his joke. Thanks.
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On January 11 2015 10:23 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 10:17 Epamynondas wrote:On January 11 2015 09:59 Luolis wrote:On January 11 2015 07:29 Gothic wrote:On January 11 2015 07:18 Paljas wrote:
dont get all the drama,
calling other people hackers is just part of swedish culture. I had a comeback to that one, but I won't. Seriously, does this kind of crap belong on TL? Does calling a well accomplished progamer a cheater belong in sc2 proscene? It does if its proportionate to the information and situation. if naniwa had made a thread on tl, reddit and tweeted about it because Happy threw down three bunkers in one game, that's just just stupid if naniwa talks about it in a post-game lobby (which I'm not sure if is supposed to be private or not?) then it's more debatable. If it's supposed to be a private conversation then yeah, it has a part on the proscene. You put your suspicions forth (however bluntly) and the matter gets investigated. If it wasn't a private conversation then yeah it's a pretty shitty thing to do IMO (though not as bad as the example above, and I feel like a lot of people are judging naniwa like he did that). e: also, hacking and cheating are being a very discussed topic in this season's qualifiers, with demuslim even accusing an opponent of maphacks, and after the CS:GO cheating scandals, I personally don't feel comfortable saying someone can't be cheating just because they're well acomplished. That said I don't think Happy was ghosting, and that Naniwa went too far and was too insulting towards Happy. But he was right in forcing casters out(who created the whole situation in the first place by not following the rules OR common sense) I think Naniwa also later said something along the lines of "you dont play so well without russian stream" in twitter to happy later. Also hacking and cheating are sure a discussed topic, but its much harder in SC2 to actually maphack in the pro level than it is in CSGO.
Yes, he said that after Happy insulted him and everything was already public (idk if he knew, i assume he did), which is why I don't think it's that relevant.
I don't know much about maphacking though. How is it more difficult? I understand it might be hard because you can't really be staring at the enemy base through the fog of war or clicking on hidden buildings, but surely you can just look at the minimap or pretend you're just clicking units across the map or something right? Or you mean from a technical standpoint?
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United States97274 Posts
On January 11 2015 10:59 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 10:47 Shellshock wrote:On January 11 2015 10:43 Dodgin wrote:
Naniwa is such a god. Don't insult naniwa by dropping him to Flash's level you guys
Believe in the hype
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On January 11 2015 11:24 Epamynondas wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 10:23 Luolis wrote:On January 11 2015 10:17 Epamynondas wrote:On January 11 2015 09:59 Luolis wrote:On January 11 2015 07:29 Gothic wrote:On January 11 2015 07:18 Paljas wrote:
dont get all the drama,
calling other people hackers is just part of swedish culture. I had a comeback to that one, but I won't. Seriously, does this kind of crap belong on TL? Does calling a well accomplished progamer a cheater belong in sc2 proscene? It does if its proportionate to the information and situation. if naniwa had made a thread on tl, reddit and tweeted about it because Happy threw down three bunkers in one game, that's just just stupid if naniwa talks about it in a post-game lobby (which I'm not sure if is supposed to be private or not?) then it's more debatable. If it's supposed to be a private conversation then yeah, it has a part on the proscene. You put your suspicions forth (however bluntly) and the matter gets investigated. If it wasn't a private conversation then yeah it's a pretty shitty thing to do IMO (though not as bad as the example above, and I feel like a lot of people are judging naniwa like he did that). e: also, hacking and cheating are being a very discussed topic in this season's qualifiers, with demuslim even accusing an opponent of maphacks, and after the CS:GO cheating scandals, I personally don't feel comfortable saying someone can't be cheating just because they're well acomplished. That said I don't think Happy was ghosting, and that Naniwa went too far and was too insulting towards Happy. But he was right in forcing casters out(who created the whole situation in the first place by not following the rules OR common sense) I think Naniwa also later said something along the lines of "you dont play so well without russian stream" in twitter to happy later. Also hacking and cheating are sure a discussed topic, but its much harder in SC2 to actually maphack in the pro level than it is in CSGO. Yes, he said that after Happy insulted him and everything was already public (idk if he knew, i assume he did), which is why I don't think it's that relevant. I don't know much about maphacking though. How is it more difficult? I understand it might be hard because you can't really be staring at the enemy base through the fog of war or clicking on hidden buildings, but surely you can just look at the minimap or pretend you're just clicking units across the map or something right? Or you mean from a technical standpoint?
Its much easier to spot a maphack. Just seeing how people with maphacks play, compared to people who play without theres miles of difference. People with MH usually scout much less, and pretty much never get caught offguard by anything. In CS its different because a silent aimbot is ridiculously tough to spot. No one in their right mind wouldve thought KQLY was hacking until he was VAC banned. Thats why people still think that theres alot hackers in CS scene.
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On January 11 2015 11:44 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 10:59 boxerfred wrote:On January 11 2015 10:47 Shellshock wrote:On January 11 2015 10:43 Dodgin wrote:
Naniwa is such a god. Don't insult naniwa by dropping him to Flash's level you guys Believe in the hype
I heared Naniwa is better at 2raxing.
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Russian Federation6 Posts
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Russian Federation6 Posts
Fuck all ESL organization.
Some insults and BM`s.
User was warned for this post
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EPT
