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Discussion of Naniwa's mental health (unless you know him personally or you email me your phd diploma) after page 96 will be dealt with severely. I suggest you talk about the games instead. | ||
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Jornada
United States223 Posts
It was alot of fun watching the stream yesterday because deep down all of you want to see more Naniwa whether you love or hate him you still want to see him play. Think about it he had taken a HUGH break... sure he was playing occasionally, but for the most part he wasnt practicing as much. It is awsome that he still has to skill to actually power through the qualifiers and beat very good people. GG Naniwa and keep playing! | ||
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Epamynondas
387 Posts
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pms
Poland611 Posts
WP Naniwa. | ||
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limbonic
70 Posts
On January 10 2015 23:29 Big J wrote: Your premise is wrong. The referee can't change anything about his decision after he called it, it's completely irrelevant what the player says or does That is just not true. There is a famous case from German Bundesliga where the referee gave a penalty and then the supposed to be fouled player told the referee that it wasn't a foul and the referee withdrew his decision and the game continuued without a penalty. the case you describe is a very special one (schweinsteiger?) that does not work for a comparison. in your case the "complaint" was coming from the side which was in benefit of the call. the other way around there is only two ways this can be handled: if the referee interrupts the game, in case of revision, a drop ball is in order. otherwise, the whole game might have to be replayed (depending on the arbitration comittee's decision). a referee must not change his decision in favor of the complaining team. -- bottom line: the community (neither fans nor the other side) has no say in what happens to naniwa when it comes to sanctions due to his behavior. this is how it should be. if WCS sees any reason for suspending naniwa, then they are free to do so. however, their decision has to be based on solid evidence regarding violation of specific rules. in the "professional world", there is no place for "outcry"-culture. players should not be banned just because some people on the internet feel offended. | ||
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Blardy
United States290 Posts
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Rail_sc2
Russian Federation205 Posts
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mikumegurine
Canada3145 Posts
that one particular stream was NOT on a 5 minute delay, when it should have been right? so Naniwa was in the right (atleast regarding the stream) perhaps not about accusing Happy though | ||
Liquid`TLO
Germany767 Posts
On January 11 2015 00:52 AnexisVerdi wrote: Russian streamers and and Russian sc2-scene . I hat it even more than you guys . I was banned from GOODGAME.ru forever by unmanner , but i cant keep it myself . They really unadekvate and awful players and people, who can only talk s*it . I was always been flamed by every Russian caster , every game , every time . I hate em so much . They dont like my level of playing They dont like who i am They dont like fact of i still playing They dont like fact of i win their favourites like Happy . They say like : OMG verdi is retard noob , he shouldn't win there . It has been started on 2013 IEM Katowice , where russian caster ADOLF came me on interview and humilated me on public ( told he will figure out with clean hands , if i will no answer the questions on interview ) . It was a little bit earlier , after russian IEM-Casters flamed my 2-base style of playing , told that 2-base disgusting , unprofessional , shame of Russia . I told like - f*ck you guys , i dont care of rus retards like Adolf . Than they came in katowice and humilated me , i lost after that cuz bad mental shape i had also got punishment by esl because it ( Russian casters made a cooperate request to esl for they punish me , ESL trustem THEM , NOT TO PLAYER ! ) / After that there was a lot more situation . For example next one is Battle of Four . After i won the tournament 3-1 over Empire.Happy in finals , Empire.Stranger tryed of his best for admins not pay me my prize moneys . He told like " THIS GUY UNSPORTIVE , let's take he's moneys to Happy " . I just made some show after my win to my fans , nothing bm or etc. , and i got respond like this . Expect of my personal sponsor Gerich , (Who is very respectful man in Russia at all ), Russian sc2-community represented not by Bad Manners or something , it represented by rats who ready to make a stab from back any time . Things like stream-playing , maphacking and other is very compitent in Russia . From top-10 russia aligulac there are at least 6 players regulary doing this . I lost so many games to this guys , and that never ends . It will be always so . Get care when u deal with Russian-sc2 scene . And most dangerous in this in my opinion about dealing with is Sc2tv.ru ( Adolf , Alex007 and other streamer connected with ) Goodgame.ru ( unrespect to players who stream for their portal for 3 years , banned me and flaming every stream ) p.s. currently i streaming on twitch Empire.Stranger of himself And EmpireTV For sure And any other player and person , who u dont know personally , will be always under risk of back-play . So i really respect Naniwa for he's such a decent behaviour yesterday . That the thing unprofessional Rus-sc2-scene deserve P.S. most part of my bad-manner and Nothing-to-lose behaviour is belong to Russian Scene , which made from young wc3-player Verdi - derelict of last instance in sc2 . I don't want to dismiss what you're saying but these are some very serious allegations, do you have any level of proof to back your words up? Logs/Screenshots/Replays. Unless there's something to show for, it is word versus word and no real conclusions can be drawn. | ||
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Penev
28535 Posts
On January 11 2015 01:11 mikumegurine wrote: so bottomline that one particular stream was NOT on a 5 minute delay, when it should have been right? so Naniwa was in the right (atleast regarding the stream) perhaps not about accusing Happy though Yep. @Verdi: Needs to be a blog (with actual proof) | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
also found it quite hilarious that you capslocked adolf the first time you wrote it. so yeah overall i feel like you need to back this up first until then it sounds like they are making fun of you and you are rightfully upset about it | ||
TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On January 11 2015 01:11 mikumegurine wrote: so bottomline that one particular stream was NOT on a 5 minute delay, when it should have been right? so Naniwa was in the right (atleast regarding the stream) perhaps not about accusing Happy though Pretty much. Did Naniwa accuse him directly though? Or is it just referring to the tweet where he said something along the lines 'You're only a low level master player without the stream' AFTER he got called mentally-ill? Because if someone would say something like this about me I would probably attack back, too. | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On January 11 2015 01:21 TheNewEra wrote: Pretty much. Did Naniwa accuse him directly though? Or is it just referring to the tweet where he said something along the lines 'You're only a low level master player without the stream' AFTER he got called mentally-ill? Because if someone would say something like this about me I would probably attack back, too. there you go + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hNamA3z.png) | ||
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Rail_sc2
Russian Federation205 Posts
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Rail_sc2
Russian Federation205 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On January 11 2015 01:21 TheNewEra wrote: Pretty much. Did Naniwa accuse him directly though? Or is it just referring to the tweet where he said something along the lines 'You're only a low level master player without the stream' AFTER he got called mentally-ill? Because if someone would say something like this about me I would probably attack back, too. NaNiwa started the fire in the lobby right after game 2. | ||
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Gothic
Sweden122 Posts
Yeps, that's the one. | ||
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Gothic
Sweden122 Posts
On January 11 2015 01:29 Boucot wrote: NaNiwa started the fire in the lobby right after game 2. How is this starting a fire? He's in his right to be upset about a stream having 0 delay. He doesn't even mention Happy or directly accuse him. I would have been pissed off too, and I think if this is the worst you can dig up that Nani said, you're really running on fumes. | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On January 11 2015 02:05 Gothic wrote: How is this starting a fire? He's in his right to be upset about a stream having 0 delay. He doesn't even mention Happy or directly accuse him. I would have been pissed off too, and I think if this is the worst you can dig up that Nani said, you're really running on fumes. ??? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/i1JbpwE.png) | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
hahaha lorning that's lovely | ||
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HandleTaken
Sweden81 Posts
"When I removed the Russian stream they were at least 2 minutes ahead of all the other streams. This comes down to my fault for not having been thorough enough checking all the streams. Don't blame NaNiwa for that, he was well within his right to complain about it." source: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2rwx17/naninwa_accusing_happy_of_ghosting/cnk47lt | ||
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