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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 06 2014 20:31 GMT
#21
This game ...
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pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
September 06 2014 20:32 GMT
#22
Has Stephano re-retired or what? How isn't he in a tournament like this? The whole situation w/ MeltDown seems weird to me.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
September 06 2014 20:33 GMT
#23
On September 07 2014 05:32 pigmanbear wrote:
Has Stephano re-retired or what? How isn't he in a tournament like this? The whole situation w/ MeltDown seems weird to me.

He never un-retired, he is still attending a university and is still not playing sc2 full time. Meltdown just sponsers him as a part time player.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
September 06 2014 20:34 GMT
#24
that was the worst I have seen in a long time.
Not the game itself (well basically this could have easily gone in Terrans favor, but if you watch the game and know everything and sit back and have time to think about it, it is easy to judge), because there were like 5 ways he could have won the basetrade.

But the casting or more like the decision making of the casters/referees or whatever you want to call them.
Waiting for the players what happens and MAYBE resume from replay? MAYBE giving the point to one player? MAYBE regame? "because we can make up the rules now"

Well I only watch the games because of the players, cause well ... there is some room to make the casting more entertaining and also informative
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 06 2014 20:39 GMT
#25
On September 07 2014 05:34 Rollora wrote:
that was the worst I have seen in a long time.
Not the game itself (well basically this could have easily gone in Terrans favor, but if you watch the game and know everything and sit back and have time to think about it, it is easy to judge), because there were like 5 ways he could have won the basetrade.

But the casting or more like the decision making of the casters/referees or whatever you want to call them.
Waiting for the players what happens and MAYBE resume from replay? MAYBE giving the point to one player? MAYBE regame? "because we can make up the rules now"

Well I only watch the games because of the players, cause well ... there is some room to make the casting more entertaining and also informative

what exactly happened? I missed it.
Moderatorshe/her
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 06 2014 20:40 GMT
#26
One Zealot and one Probe for SEVEN SCVs. That was amazing.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 06 2014 20:41 GMT
#27
On September 07 2014 05:40 Circumstance wrote:
One Zealot and one Probe for SEVEN SCVs. That was amazing.

That was so badly handled. Seriously pretty sure I might have done better.
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Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
September 06 2014 20:42 GMT
#28
On September 07 2014 05:41 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 05:40 Circumstance wrote:
One Zealot and one Probe for SEVEN SCVs. That was amazing.

That was so badly handled. Seriously pretty sure I might have done better.

Too bad you didnt manage to qualify.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
September 06 2014 20:44 GMT
#29
On September 07 2014 05:39 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 05:34 Rollora wrote:
that was the worst I have seen in a long time.
Not the game itself (well basically this could have easily gone in Terrans favor, but if you watch the game and know everything and sit back and have time to think about it, it is easy to judge), because there were like 5 ways he could have won the basetrade.

But the casting or more like the decision making of the casters/referees or whatever you want to call them.
Waiting for the players what happens and MAYBE resume from replay? MAYBE giving the point to one player? MAYBE regame? "because we can make up the rules now"

Well I only watch the games because of the players, cause well ... there is some room to make the casting more entertaining and also informative

what exactly happened? I missed it.

it was a weird basetrade and, and the terran lifted the building to a corner the protoss couldn't reach it (and had no base left, no air units but an army, compared to terrans 0 Units), and they (Casters) were discussing what to do now... I mean like resume the replay from a certain point or so. And not just draw and regame.

Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 06 2014 20:48 GMT
#30
Rifkin so BM, stealing Bly's hashtag for ToD.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
ZombieGrub
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States709 Posts
September 06 2014 20:48 GMT
#31
I thought it was pretty obvious what we do, wait for the players to agree to draw and regame. Isn't that how all these draws play out?
Commentator"Defeat is the acceptance of my own laziness." - SlayerS_'Boxer'
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 06 2014 20:49 GMT
#32
On September 07 2014 05:48 ZombieGrub wrote:
I thought it was pretty obvious what we do, wait for the players to agree to draw and regame. Isn't that how all these draws play out?

thats what seems standard to me... i dont think ive ever seen a game resumed from replay because of a draw o_O
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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 20:57:31
September 06 2014 20:54 GMT
#33
On September 07 2014 05:48 ZombieGrub wrote:
I thought it was pretty obvious what we do, wait for the players to agree to draw and regame. Isn't that how all these draws play out?

Jessica that was maybe what you thought, but not what Rifkin was talking about.

Besides: sorry about the flame, I was too enraged/emotional

Plus: if I am allowed to make a suggestion, maybe one can get into a more "powerful" observing rule, meaning being able to kick other observers if they drop out. Guess it is very annoying for the Pro's playing and for some viewers as well, waiting 1 minute in front of the screen, while nothing happens.

If not... well then fill the 60 secs with a random bad joke, like Tastosis do
LuckyGnomTV
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Russian Federation367 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 21:03:50
September 06 2014 21:02 GMT
#34
So, I wrote in a BaseTradeTV chat that Yunga's real nickname is ddooomm and hes banned at almost every russian league because he was caught maphacking for a lot of times. The biggest russian team league has a hackers list with evidences and ID links of "starcraft://profile/" type. So if player will change his nickname, but will keep his battle.net account you still will be able to see if it is him or not, The most funny thing here is that one of this links shows him, you just click on a link and you got Yunga's account open in starcraft. And now you should be ready for what happened litterally a seconds ago: Rifking said "well we never saw this guy, hes playing so top notch starcraft" and I got "You are banned from talking in basetradetv for 586". Nice guys, I guess the best way to live in this world is never try to help anyone.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 21:19:15
September 06 2014 21:04 GMT
#35
On September 07 2014 06:02 LuckyGnomTV wrote:
So, I wrote in a BaseTradeTV chat that Yunga's real nickname is ddooomm and hes banned at almost every russian league because he was caught maphacking for a lot of times. The biggest russian team league has a hackers list with evidences and ID links of "starcraft://profile/" type. So if player will change his nickname, but will keep his battle.net account you still will be able to see if it is him or not, The most funny thing here is that one of this links shows him, you just click on a link and you got Yunga's account open in starcraft. And now you should be ready for what happened litterally a seconds ago: Rifking say "well we never saw this guy, hes playing so top notch starcraft" and I got "You are banned from talking in basetradetv for 586". Nice guys, I guess the best way to live in this world is never try to help anyone.

Guess you get unbanned, if you provide us with links, because then the evidence is more clear and ZombieGrub/Jessica is reading this thread as you can see above

hmm happened again, that "Doom" is lagging, why would he join the game after he already got knocked out?
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 06 2014 21:40 GMT
#36
ToD vs. PiG. Pretty sure the last time these 2 played, it wound up in the "Worst games ever" thread because neither one knew they were playing on a 4-player map.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 06 2014 21:50 GMT
#37
ive been seeing more and more toss micro their warp prisms and save 4 zealots at a time with pickups instead of just warping in and forgetting them. really cool stuff i always like seeing the racial skill ceilings stretched
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Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
September 06 2014 21:57 GMT
#38
On September 07 2014 06:40 Circumstance wrote:
ToD vs. PiG. Pretty sure the last time these 2 played, it wound up in the "Worst games ever" thread because neither one knew they were playing on a 4-player map.

That was that proxy gate on wrong positions ? :D
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
September 06 2014 22:00 GMT
#39
On September 07 2014 06:50 brickrd wrote:
ive been seeing more and more toss micro their warp prisms and save 4 zealots at a time with pickups instead of just warping in and forgetting them. really cool stuff i always like seeing the racial skill ceilings stretched

This is puzzluing me since the early SC2 days of 2010: In order to win, Terran has to pickup every drop again and again. Can't be that hard, right?
But the other races didn't really drop micro at all. Like it doesn't matter, I win anyways if I throw away 400 minerals (4 zealots) or whatever.
Really what bugged me ever since (one of many things) and the only thing I can think of is, that it really wasn't necessary for the win yet.
But yeah, It is cool to see that finally at the pro level, although I did that ever since and never understood why it shouldn't be possible for them. But well, I started of as terran, now I do it even with Zerg.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 06 2014 22:03 GMT
#40
On September 07 2014 07:00 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 06:50 brickrd wrote:
ive been seeing more and more toss micro their warp prisms and save 4 zealots at a time with pickups instead of just warping in and forgetting them. really cool stuff i always like seeing the racial skill ceilings stretched

This is puzzluing me since the early SC2 days of 2010: In order to win, Terran has to pickup every drop again and again. Can't be that hard, right?
But the other races didn't really drop micro at all. Like it doesn't matter, I win anyways if I throw away 400 minerals (4 zealots) or whatever.
Really what bugged me ever since (one of many things) and the only thing I can think of is, that it really wasn't necessary for the win yet.
But yeah, It is cool to see that finally at the pro level, although I did that ever since and never understood why it shouldn't be possible for them. But well, I started of as terran, now I do it even with Zerg.

i usually assume its just most pros preferring to use their multitasking elsewhere and not thinking its worth it until someone comes along and does really well with it. i think Zest is who comes to mind for me when i think of the surge of zealot drop micro. when the best players show off their skills i guess it motivates people to try things they doubted before ? idk but its fun to watch the game evolve in small ways even with a pretty set meta
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