• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:05
CEST 12:05
KST 19:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"2ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!22Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)90
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters
Tourneys
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion How Famous was FlaSh before his Debut? Animated Gateway BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ HORROR STARCRAFT MOVIE
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Games can Help with Majo…
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4615 users

[BaseTradeTV] WTB European - Day 2 - Page 3

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 06 2014 22:10 GMT
#41
pig floating 3k
TL+ Member
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
September 06 2014 22:24 GMT
#42
ToD can't win, right? Pig can't throw this game, right ??
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 22:30:58
September 06 2014 22:29 GMT
#43
On September 07 2014 07:03 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 07:00 Rollora wrote:
On September 07 2014 06:50 brickrd wrote:
ive been seeing more and more toss micro their warp prisms and save 4 zealots at a time with pickups instead of just warping in and forgetting them. really cool stuff i always like seeing the racial skill ceilings stretched

This is puzzluing me since the early SC2 days of 2010: In order to win, Terran has to pickup every drop again and again. Can't be that hard, right?
But the other races didn't really drop micro at all. Like it doesn't matter, I win anyways if I throw away 400 minerals (4 zealots) or whatever.
Really what bugged me ever since (one of many things) and the only thing I can think of is, that it really wasn't necessary for the win yet.
But yeah, It is cool to see that finally at the pro level, although I did that ever since and never understood why it shouldn't be possible for them. But well, I started of as terran, now I do it even with Zerg.

i usually assume its just most pros preferring to use their multitasking elsewhere and not thinking its worth it until someone comes along and does really well with it. i think Zest is who comes to mind for me when i think of the surge of zealot drop micro. when the best players show off their skills i guess it motivates people to try things they doubted before ? idk but its fun to watch the game evolve in small ways even with a pretty set meta

They should listen to whiners then more often
I know several things like this that are really strong and don't require THAT much of APM and so on...
On September 07 2014 07:24 Faefae wrote:
ToD can't win, right? Pig can't throw this game, right ??

anything can happen but yeah, free could eventually wear Tod down
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 06 2014 22:30 GMT
#44
On September 07 2014 06:57 Faefae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 06:40 Circumstance wrote:
ToD vs. PiG. Pretty sure the last time these 2 played, it wound up in the "Worst games ever" thread because neither one knew they were playing on a 4-player map.

That was that proxy gate on wrong positions ? :D


Yep. It was at a Dreamhack, last year. ToD goes for the proxy 2-gate on the cross spawn, says "wtf not cross only" after the Zealots see no hatch, PiG responds "oh wtf", and they re-gamed.

I'm replying now because the post was mentioned on stream, and I wanted to give context.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
September 06 2014 22:31 GMT
#45
On September 07 2014 07:30 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 06:57 Faefae wrote:
On September 07 2014 06:40 Circumstance wrote:
ToD vs. PiG. Pretty sure the last time these 2 played, it wound up in the "Worst games ever" thread because neither one knew they were playing on a 4-player map.

That was that proxy gate on wrong positions ? :D


Yep. It was at a Dreamhack, last year. ToD goes for the proxy 2-gate on the cross spawn, says "wtf not cross only" after the Zealots see no hatch, PiG responds "oh wtf", and they re-gamed.

I'm replying now because the post was mentioned on stream, and I wanted to give context.

heard it too after reading your post, still interested in the vod, if you have it (maybe a link or so) ?
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
September 06 2014 22:33 GMT
#46
This game is reallllly painful D:
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
September 06 2014 22:34 GMT
#47
what did ToD say at the end?
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5628 Posts
September 06 2014 22:35 GMT
#48
I tune in to see an Aussie playing, huh...

Welmu The Best European
don't wall off against random
KaneMX
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany151 Posts
September 06 2014 22:35 GMT
#49
On September 07 2014 07:34 Alchemik wrote:
what did ToD say at the end?


"I have no idea"

"how you zergs"

"enjoy playing sc2"

"wp"

"gg"
TokO: "Starcraft 2 is after all a game of 'being the bigger dick' to the opponent."
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 22:36:58
September 06 2014 22:35 GMT
#50
"No idea how you Zerg have fun playing SC2"
Hahaha I love you ToD ♥

But: I wonder the same thing... about protoss.
Compared to the other races it always feels like there is less "to do", therefore being less entertaining to play.
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
690 Posts
September 06 2014 22:35 GMT
#51
On September 07 2014 07:34 Alchemik wrote:
what did ToD say at the end?


"no idea how you zergs have fun playing this game.. gg wp"

French salt, but so real. I miss good zvp haha
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
September 06 2014 22:36 GMT
#52
ah, alright, ToD was just being stupid as earlier today, okay then. thanks
SmileZerg
Profile Joined March 2012
United States543 Posts
September 06 2014 22:37 GMT
#53
On September 07 2014 07:35 yubo56 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 07:34 Alchemik wrote:
what did ToD say at the end?


"no idea how you zergs have fun playing this game.. gg wp"

French salt, but so real. I miss good zvp haha

There never was good ZvP in SC2. Colossus ruined the matchup. Colossus ruins every vP matchup, honestly.
"Show me your teeth."
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
September 06 2014 22:37 GMT
#54
Yeah.. Seeing this kind of game of SH turtle is terrible. Playing against it is worst. PLaying with it is decent-ish when you win
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 06 2014 22:37 GMT
#55
On September 07 2014 07:31 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 07:30 Circumstance wrote:
On September 07 2014 06:57 Faefae wrote:
On September 07 2014 06:40 Circumstance wrote:
ToD vs. PiG. Pretty sure the last time these 2 played, it wound up in the "Worst games ever" thread because neither one knew they were playing on a 4-player map.

That was that proxy gate on wrong positions ? :D


Yep. It was at a Dreamhack, last year. ToD goes for the proxy 2-gate on the cross spawn, says "wtf not cross only" after the Zealots see no hatch, PiG responds "oh wtf", and they re-gamed.

I'm replying now because the post was mentioned on stream, and I wanted to give context.

heard it too after reading your post, still interested in the vod, if you have it (maybe a link or so) ?


Courtesy of the "Worst Games of SC2 History" thread:
The world is better when every background has a chance.
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 22:40:52
September 06 2014 22:38 GMT
#56
--- Nuked ---
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
September 06 2014 22:40 GMT
#57
On September 07 2014 07:36 Alchemik wrote:
ah, alright, ToD was just being stupid as earlier today, okay then. thanks

stupid?
I'd say emotional.
You must play Zerg then, but then again you don't know how frustrating it is, to lose against a Unit that spawns free units (and not doing anything besides that, nothing for the game, not harassing etc (not saying that happened here, but happened way too often to me on ladder)) and therefore its so hard to actually hurt the zerg etc.
Free units is still a stupid Idea to mee and SH make the game really boring compared to actually work for the win, or as the perspective of he watcher, see working one for the win.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
September 06 2014 22:43 GMT
#58
On September 07 2014 07:40 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 07:36 Alchemik wrote:
ah, alright, ToD was just being stupid as earlier today, okay then. thanks

stupid?
I'd say emotional.
You must play Zerg then, but then again you don't know how frustrating it is, to lose against a Unit that spawns free units (and not doing anything besides that, nothing for the game, not harassing etc (not saying that happened here, but happened way too often to me on ladder)) and therefore its so hard to actually hurt the zerg etc.
Free units is still a stupid Idea to mee and SH make the game really boring compared to actually work for the win, or as the perspective of he watcher, see working one for the win.

yes, stupid

you can tell the same about Protoss late-game, when you lose to it it just feels stupid and no-skill, even though it isn't, just like with SH
plus, without SH there's no way to really fight that army, so yeah, it's not like they're not needed
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 22:44:40
September 06 2014 22:44 GMT
#59
Can confirm playing against SH is the worst feeling in the world though
Even worse than playing against colossus/phoenix :p
ForGG. 29/11/2014
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
September 06 2014 22:45 GMT
#60
--- Nuked ---
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Escore
10:00
Season 3 Week 4
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 3069
Hyuk 667
Horang2 655
Mini 438
firebathero 416
Bisu 287
Light 199
Larva 198
Dewaltoss 157
Leta 135
[ Show more ]
Hm[arnc] 121
Soma 102
Mind 96
Hyun 91
Soulkey 72
EffOrt 68
soO 43
Sharp 38
Bale 35
ggaemo 35
ZerO 32
Free 31
NaDa 27
hero 24
Rush 22
Barracks 21
Sacsri 14
Nal_rA 14
Shine 8
Sexy 8
ajuk12(nOOB) 7
Yoon 5
JYJ 3
[sc1f]eonzerg 1
Jaedong 1
Rain 1
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss610
Other Games
gofns10905
FrodaN1464
ceh9839
XaKoH 148
crisheroes118
CosmosSc2 49
Trikslyr13
ZerO(Twitch)7
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH361
• LUISG 30
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• escodisco192
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV343
Upcoming Events
CrankTV Team League
55m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1h 55m
Big Brain Bouts
5h 55m
Soulspirit vs goblin
TriGGeR vs Bunny
OSC
11h 55m
Korean StarCraft League
16h 55m
Afreeca Starleague
17h 55m
RSL Revival
22h 55m
Serral vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Online Event
1d 4h
Replay Cast
1d 13h
RSL Revival
1d 22h
Clem vs ByuN
Rogue vs Lambo
[ Show More ]
OSC
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
INu's Battles
4 days
Cure vs herO
ByuN vs Rogue
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Patches Events
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-22
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Escore Tournament S3: W4
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.