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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 06 2014 22:10 GMT
#41
pig floating 3k
TL+ Member
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
September 06 2014 22:24 GMT
#42
ToD can't win, right? Pig can't throw this game, right ??
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 22:30:58
September 06 2014 22:29 GMT
#43
On September 07 2014 07:03 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 07:00 Rollora wrote:
On September 07 2014 06:50 brickrd wrote:
ive been seeing more and more toss micro their warp prisms and save 4 zealots at a time with pickups instead of just warping in and forgetting them. really cool stuff i always like seeing the racial skill ceilings stretched

This is puzzluing me since the early SC2 days of 2010: In order to win, Terran has to pickup every drop again and again. Can't be that hard, right?
But the other races didn't really drop micro at all. Like it doesn't matter, I win anyways if I throw away 400 minerals (4 zealots) or whatever.
Really what bugged me ever since (one of many things) and the only thing I can think of is, that it really wasn't necessary for the win yet.
But yeah, It is cool to see that finally at the pro level, although I did that ever since and never understood why it shouldn't be possible for them. But well, I started of as terran, now I do it even with Zerg.

i usually assume its just most pros preferring to use their multitasking elsewhere and not thinking its worth it until someone comes along and does really well with it. i think Zest is who comes to mind for me when i think of the surge of zealot drop micro. when the best players show off their skills i guess it motivates people to try things they doubted before ? idk but its fun to watch the game evolve in small ways even with a pretty set meta

They should listen to whiners then more often
I know several things like this that are really strong and don't require THAT much of APM and so on...
On September 07 2014 07:24 Faefae wrote:
ToD can't win, right? Pig can't throw this game, right ??

anything can happen but yeah, free could eventually wear Tod down
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 06 2014 22:30 GMT
#44
On September 07 2014 06:57 Faefae wrote:
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On September 07 2014 06:40 Circumstance wrote:
ToD vs. PiG. Pretty sure the last time these 2 played, it wound up in the "Worst games ever" thread because neither one knew they were playing on a 4-player map.

That was that proxy gate on wrong positions ? :D


Yep. It was at a Dreamhack, last year. ToD goes for the proxy 2-gate on the cross spawn, says "wtf not cross only" after the Zealots see no hatch, PiG responds "oh wtf", and they re-gamed.

I'm replying now because the post was mentioned on stream, and I wanted to give context.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
September 06 2014 22:31 GMT
#45
On September 07 2014 07:30 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 06:57 Faefae wrote:
On September 07 2014 06:40 Circumstance wrote:
ToD vs. PiG. Pretty sure the last time these 2 played, it wound up in the "Worst games ever" thread because neither one knew they were playing on a 4-player map.

That was that proxy gate on wrong positions ? :D


Yep. It was at a Dreamhack, last year. ToD goes for the proxy 2-gate on the cross spawn, says "wtf not cross only" after the Zealots see no hatch, PiG responds "oh wtf", and they re-gamed.

I'm replying now because the post was mentioned on stream, and I wanted to give context.

heard it too after reading your post, still interested in the vod, if you have it (maybe a link or so) ?
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
September 06 2014 22:33 GMT
#46
This game is reallllly painful D:
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
September 06 2014 22:34 GMT
#47
what did ToD say at the end?
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5594 Posts
September 06 2014 22:35 GMT
#48
I tune in to see an Aussie playing, huh...

Welmu The Best European
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KaneMX
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany151 Posts
September 06 2014 22:35 GMT
#49
On September 07 2014 07:34 Alchemik wrote:
what did ToD say at the end?


"I have no idea"

"how you zergs"

"enjoy playing sc2"

"wp"

"gg"
TokO: "Starcraft 2 is after all a game of 'being the bigger dick' to the opponent."
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 22:36:58
September 06 2014 22:35 GMT
#50
"No idea how you Zerg have fun playing SC2"
Hahaha I love you ToD ♥

But: I wonder the same thing... about protoss.
Compared to the other races it always feels like there is less "to do", therefore being less entertaining to play.
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
689 Posts
September 06 2014 22:35 GMT
#51
On September 07 2014 07:34 Alchemik wrote:
what did ToD say at the end?


"no idea how you zergs have fun playing this game.. gg wp"

French salt, but so real. I miss good zvp haha
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
September 06 2014 22:36 GMT
#52
ah, alright, ToD was just being stupid as earlier today, okay then. thanks
SmileZerg
Profile Joined March 2012
United States543 Posts
September 06 2014 22:37 GMT
#53
On September 07 2014 07:35 yubo56 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 07:34 Alchemik wrote:
what did ToD say at the end?


"no idea how you zergs have fun playing this game.. gg wp"

French salt, but so real. I miss good zvp haha

There never was good ZvP in SC2. Colossus ruined the matchup. Colossus ruins every vP matchup, honestly.
"Show me your teeth."
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
September 06 2014 22:37 GMT
#54
Yeah.. Seeing this kind of game of SH turtle is terrible. Playing against it is worst. PLaying with it is decent-ish when you win
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 06 2014 22:37 GMT
#55
On September 07 2014 07:31 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 07:30 Circumstance wrote:
On September 07 2014 06:57 Faefae wrote:
On September 07 2014 06:40 Circumstance wrote:
ToD vs. PiG. Pretty sure the last time these 2 played, it wound up in the "Worst games ever" thread because neither one knew they were playing on a 4-player map.

That was that proxy gate on wrong positions ? :D


Yep. It was at a Dreamhack, last year. ToD goes for the proxy 2-gate on the cross spawn, says "wtf not cross only" after the Zealots see no hatch, PiG responds "oh wtf", and they re-gamed.

I'm replying now because the post was mentioned on stream, and I wanted to give context.

heard it too after reading your post, still interested in the vod, if you have it (maybe a link or so) ?


Courtesy of the "Worst Games of SC2 History" thread:
The world is better when every background has a chance.
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 22:40:52
September 06 2014 22:38 GMT
#56
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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
September 06 2014 22:40 GMT
#57
On September 07 2014 07:36 Alchemik wrote:
ah, alright, ToD was just being stupid as earlier today, okay then. thanks

stupid?
I'd say emotional.
You must play Zerg then, but then again you don't know how frustrating it is, to lose against a Unit that spawns free units (and not doing anything besides that, nothing for the game, not harassing etc (not saying that happened here, but happened way too often to me on ladder)) and therefore its so hard to actually hurt the zerg etc.
Free units is still a stupid Idea to mee and SH make the game really boring compared to actually work for the win, or as the perspective of he watcher, see working one for the win.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
September 06 2014 22:43 GMT
#58
On September 07 2014 07:40 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 07:36 Alchemik wrote:
ah, alright, ToD was just being stupid as earlier today, okay then. thanks

stupid?
I'd say emotional.
You must play Zerg then, but then again you don't know how frustrating it is, to lose against a Unit that spawns free units (and not doing anything besides that, nothing for the game, not harassing etc (not saying that happened here, but happened way too often to me on ladder)) and therefore its so hard to actually hurt the zerg etc.
Free units is still a stupid Idea to mee and SH make the game really boring compared to actually work for the win, or as the perspective of he watcher, see working one for the win.

yes, stupid

you can tell the same about Protoss late-game, when you lose to it it just feels stupid and no-skill, even though it isn't, just like with SH
plus, without SH there's no way to really fight that army, so yeah, it's not like they're not needed
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 22:44:40
September 06 2014 22:44 GMT
#59
Can confirm playing against SH is the worst feeling in the world though
Even worse than playing against colossus/phoenix :p
ForGG. 29/11/2014
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
September 06 2014 22:45 GMT
#60
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