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pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
September 06 2014 23:12 GMT
#81
Wow ToD is such a whiny bitch
KaneMX
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany151 Posts
September 06 2014 23:12 GMT
#82
Tasty tasty tears.
TokO: "Starcraft 2 is after all a game of 'being the bigger dick' to the opponent."
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
September 06 2014 23:12 GMT
#83
Swarm Host ness
oh god
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 06 2014 23:12 GMT
#84
Poot ToD
Community News
TL+ Member
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 06 2014 23:13 GMT
#85
Hilarious. The mistake/minute ratio was amazing in this game. Hated and loved it.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9419 Posts
September 06 2014 23:13 GMT
#86
Really entertaining game, but the level of play is still sad. Tod throughout the entire game kept spewing units when he could have saved them, and Pigs Mutalisk-conrol was pretty terrible.
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
September 06 2014 23:13 GMT
#87
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Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
September 06 2014 23:13 GMT
#88
I hate the complaining but man... I'd be so mad if i had to play these games.... God blizzard remove them please
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 06 2014 23:14 GMT
#89
VODs here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/119948-small-sc2-vod-thread?page=25#494
Community News
TL+ Member
Anlo
Profile Joined December 2013
Sweden485 Posts
September 06 2014 23:14 GMT
#90
ToD could have won that 100 times but man losing all those units vs locust just breaks my soul.

Congrats to PiG!
Captacha
Profile Joined September 2014
United States1 Post
September 06 2014 23:14 GMT
#91
le tod so salty
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 06 2014 23:14 GMT
#92
On September 07 2014 08:12 pigmanbear wrote:
Wow ToD is such a whiny bitch

wow, maybe cool it? i dont think that level of personal attacks on a player is necessary

tod is quite outspoken but he is mostly a reasonable guy, a whiny bitch is someone like avilo. im sure every toss gets frustrated about SH. i know i cry about forcefields after my ladder games
TL+ Member
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
September 06 2014 23:16 GMT
#93
On September 07 2014 07:47 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 07:45 SatedSC2 wrote:
On September 07 2014 07:43 Alchemik wrote:
On September 07 2014 07:40 Rollora wrote:
On September 07 2014 07:36 Alchemik wrote:
ah, alright, ToD was just being stupid as earlier today, okay then. thanks

stupid?
I'd say emotional.
You must play Zerg then, but then again you don't know how frustrating it is, to lose against a Unit that spawns free units (and not doing anything besides that, nothing for the game, not harassing etc (not saying that happened here, but happened way too often to me on ladder)) and therefore its so hard to actually hurt the zerg etc.
Free units is still a stupid Idea to mee and SH make the game really boring compared to actually work for the win, or as the perspective of he watcher, see working one for the win.

yes, stupid

you can tell the same about Protoss late-game, when you lose to it it just feels stupid and no-skill, even though it isn't, just like with SH
plus, without SH there's no way to really fight that army, so yeah, it's not like they're not needed

Swarm Hosts aren't needed, Zerg players just aren't experimenting because Swarm Hosts are currently the path of least resistance...

of course they are needed, the other way is playing with mutas and never letting Protoss get to that deathball (outside of doing all-ins, of course)

Constant harassement and wearing down the opponent, not waiting for the deathball might help?
There are hundred other things Zerg can do. Not the lame "I lean back and do nothing for the game" SH style.

brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 23:18:30
September 06 2014 23:16 GMT
#94
On September 07 2014 08:13 Faefae wrote:
I hate the complaining but man... I'd be so mad if i had to play these games.... God blizzard remove them please

then zerg can go back to being mad about failing to break any competent toss who plays defensively up to 3-4 bases and then having useless supply of lair units and going yolo basetrade

i agree swarm hosts can go but they need a replacement or redesign, not a nerf or straight removal

On September 07 2014 08:16 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 07:47 Alchemik wrote:
On September 07 2014 07:45 SatedSC2 wrote:
On September 07 2014 07:43 Alchemik wrote:
On September 07 2014 07:40 Rollora wrote:
On September 07 2014 07:36 Alchemik wrote:
ah, alright, ToD was just being stupid as earlier today, okay then. thanks

stupid?
I'd say emotional.
You must play Zerg then, but then again you don't know how frustrating it is, to lose against a Unit that spawns free units (and not doing anything besides that, nothing for the game, not harassing etc (not saying that happened here, but happened way too often to me on ladder)) and therefore its so hard to actually hurt the zerg etc.
Free units is still a stupid Idea to mee and SH make the game really boring compared to actually work for the win, or as the perspective of he watcher, see working one for the win.

yes, stupid

you can tell the same about Protoss late-game, when you lose to it it just feels stupid and no-skill, even though it isn't, just like with SH
plus, without SH there's no way to really fight that army, so yeah, it's not like they're not needed

Swarm Hosts aren't needed, Zerg players just aren't experimenting because Swarm Hosts are currently the path of least resistance...

of course they are needed, the other way is playing with mutas and never letting Protoss get to that deathball (outside of doing all-ins, of course)

Constant harassement and wearing down the opponent, not waiting for the deathball might help?
There are hundred other things Zerg can do. Not the lame "I lean back and do nothing for the game" SH style.


get back to me when toss are opening templar pvt because it's more honorable and skillful than colossus XD
TL+ Member
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
September 06 2014 23:18 GMT
#95
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Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 23:19:37
September 06 2014 23:18 GMT
#96
On September 07 2014 08:16 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 07:47 Alchemik wrote:
On September 07 2014 07:45 SatedSC2 wrote:
On September 07 2014 07:43 Alchemik wrote:
On September 07 2014 07:40 Rollora wrote:
On September 07 2014 07:36 Alchemik wrote:
ah, alright, ToD was just being stupid as earlier today, okay then. thanks

stupid?
I'd say emotional.
You must play Zerg then, but then again you don't know how frustrating it is, to lose against a Unit that spawns free units (and not doing anything besides that, nothing for the game, not harassing etc (not saying that happened here, but happened way too often to me on ladder)) and therefore its so hard to actually hurt the zerg etc.
Free units is still a stupid Idea to mee and SH make the game really boring compared to actually work for the win, or as the perspective of he watcher, see working one for the win.

yes, stupid

you can tell the same about Protoss late-game, when you lose to it it just feels stupid and no-skill, even though it isn't, just like with SH
plus, without SH there's no way to really fight that army, so yeah, it's not like they're not needed

Swarm Hosts aren't needed, Zerg players just aren't experimenting because Swarm Hosts are currently the path of least resistance...

of course they are needed, the other way is playing with mutas and never letting Protoss get to that deathball (outside of doing all-ins, of course)

Constant harassement and wearing down the opponent, not waiting for the deathball might help?
There are hundred other things Zerg can do. Not the lame "I lean back and do nothing for the game" SH style.


so Zerg is supposed to play like Terran, but without Terran's harassment possibilities

sounds legit


On September 07 2014 08:18 SatedSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 08:16 brickrd wrote:
On September 07 2014 08:13 Faefae wrote:
I hate the complaining but man... I'd be so mad if i had to play these games.... God blizzard remove them please

then zerg can go back to being made about failing to break any competent toss who plays defensively up to 3-4 bases and then having useless supply of lair units and going yolo basetrade

i agree swarm hosts can go but they need a replacement or redesign, not a nerf or straight removal

It's possible to beat "deathballs" without Swarm Hosts. Stop repeating a lie.

if you can beat late-game Protoss without SH, you could win the game 50 times before that, since you're a way better player (or are using something gimmicky which your opponent never played against and can't handle)
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 23:22:38
September 06 2014 23:19 GMT
#97
On September 07 2014 08:14 Lorning wrote:
VODs here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/119948-small-sc2-vod-thread?page=25#494

Thx Now I can rewatch that again
On September 07 2014 08:18 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 08:16 Rollora wrote:
On September 07 2014 07:47 Alchemik wrote:
On September 07 2014 07:45 SatedSC2 wrote:
On September 07 2014 07:43 Alchemik wrote:
On September 07 2014 07:40 Rollora wrote:
On September 07 2014 07:36 Alchemik wrote:
ah, alright, ToD was just being stupid as earlier today, okay then. thanks

stupid?
I'd say emotional.
You must play Zerg then, but then again you don't know how frustrating it is, to lose against a Unit that spawns free units (and not doing anything besides that, nothing for the game, not harassing etc (not saying that happened here, but happened way too often to me on ladder)) and therefore its so hard to actually hurt the zerg etc.
Free units is still a stupid Idea to mee and SH make the game really boring compared to actually work for the win, or as the perspective of he watcher, see working one for the win.

yes, stupid

you can tell the same about Protoss late-game, when you lose to it it just feels stupid and no-skill, even though it isn't, just like with SH
plus, without SH there's no way to really fight that army, so yeah, it's not like they're not needed

Swarm Hosts aren't needed, Zerg players just aren't experimenting because Swarm Hosts are currently the path of least resistance...

of course they are needed, the other way is playing with mutas and never letting Protoss get to that deathball (outside of doing all-ins, of course)

Constant harassement and wearing down the opponent, not waiting for the deathball might help?
There are hundred other things Zerg can do. Not the lame "I lean back and do nothing for the game" SH style.


so Zerg is supposed to play like Terran, but without Terran's harassment possibilities

sounds legit

don't make a fool of yourself.
Are you really saying Zerg cannot harass? How about ling runbys. Forcing the opponent into one part of the map while attacking the other. Baneling runbys into natural or baneling drop out of overlord? Mutalisk harassement, or like a HT Stormdrop a double fungal drop or "runby"?
Its not like the only thing that Zerg can do is to max out and a -move. Maybe thats how 90% of the players (sub Diamond) play it, but only because you can get to dia without much of that.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
September 06 2014 23:19 GMT
#98
err, VortiX vs MarineLord? they were in the same group T_T
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 06 2014 23:20 GMT
#99
On September 07 2014 08:18 SatedSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 08:16 brickrd wrote:
On September 07 2014 08:13 Faefae wrote:
I hate the complaining but man... I'd be so mad if i had to play these games.... God blizzard remove them please

then zerg can go back to being made about failing to break any competent toss who plays defensively up to 3-4 bases and then having useless supply of lair units and going yolo basetrade

i agree swarm hosts can go but they need a replacement or redesign, not a nerf or straight removal

It's possible to beat "deathballs" without Swarm Hosts. Stop repeating a lie.

excuse me? what "lie?" can you quote what "lie" i "repeated"? i stated a factual observation about how lair aggression turns out if protoss plays a cautious game o_O is there a hidden part of my post that says "it is impossible to beat deathballs without swarm hosts"?

hard to believe you're not salty about SH when you're picking invisible arguments like that
TL+ Member
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 23:20:45
September 06 2014 23:20 GMT
#100
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