EPT[IEM] Season IX - Shenzhen Final Day - Page 10
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
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Exarl25
1887 Posts
On July 20 2014 10:57 The_Templar wrote: …Is there any difference between the two? o.o Yes... A huge difference. WoL Ultras did only 15 damage to unarmored units, HotS do their full 35 to everything. HotS Ultras absolutely shred Marines. As a Protoss in WoL you would just laugh and warp in a round of Zealots if you saw Ultras, that doesn't work anymore. | ||
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SatedSC2
England3012 Posts
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Jazzman88
Canada2228 Posts
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On July 20 2014 10:57 The_Templar wrote: …Is there any difference between the two? o.o Yeah a freaaking huge difference. They deal 20 damage more with marines. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On July 20 2014 10:57 The_Templar wrote: …Is there any difference between the two? o.o I'm seriously wondering the same thing. To my knowledge, their damage was changed or something. 35+3 in HOTS, but 15+2 with 20+2 bonus (against armoured) in WOL. | ||
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Jazzman88
Canada2228 Posts
On July 20 2014 10:59 CursOr wrote: The whole point of ultras is to allow you to have poor unit control while you take a ton of bases :/ You misspelled "The whole point of ultras is so you can sacrifice a base". | ||
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Konranjyoutai
112 Posts
On July 20 2014 10:59 royalroadweed wrote: Ultras are strong. Didn't you catch that single ultra killing a 2 medivac drop? You just can attack into buildings with them. In order to tech to ultras at 5/3 you need to spend over 1200 gas, let alone the gas required to get the ultras. Not only this but there was clearly a pack of 20 lings sitting next to the ultra and only half was left when they went back to the fight. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
On July 20 2014 10:59 SatedSC2 wrote: Whatever. I still want Chargralisks. They looked awesome. Give Tarrasques pls. | ||
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Foreverkul
United States1649 Posts
On July 20 2014 10:59 purakushi wrote: Only Terran scales this well. Terran scales with skill, other races scale with tech  | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On July 20 2014 10:55 Foreverkul wrote: 1 Ultralisk with carapace > 16 marines + 2 medivacs (as you saw in that game) Sounds OP to me  But Ultras can't be microed at all, they are great to crush an attacking army on creep but you really can't attack with them. They just get kited to death, 10 marauders kill 10 ultras off creep. You can't counter micro vs kiting bio. I'd ove to have that charge from the beta back as an upgrad, of course Terran would need something cool too then :D. | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On July 20 2014 10:56 The_Templar wrote: Map: Merry Go Round  TaeJa spawns in the top left Jaedong spawns in the bottom2:00 TaeJa getting a barracks followed by a refinery. Jaedong goes hatchery first. TaeJa getting a reaper. Gas followed by a spawning pool for Jaedong. 3:00 TaeJa scouts with an SCV. Reactor on TaeJa's barracks. TaeJa expanding. 2 queens and 6 zerglings for Jaedong. Jaedong researching zergling speed. 4:00 TaeJa starts kiting zerglings with his reaper. Third CC for TaeJa. TaeJa kills ONE zergling with his entire minute of kiting. Two hellions for TaeJa. Jaedong adding 12 zerglings. 5:00 Jaedong still getting some drones. About 16 speed zerglings are moving towards TaeJa's natural. Both hellions die and Jaedong gets into the SCV line, getting 3 workers. | ||
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
On July 20 2014 10:59 PhoenixVoid wrote: My rule of thumb with Ultras is never building too many of them, I think the sweet number is one less than the number of Hatcheries you have. Totally agree. Not overbuild ultras is a really good advice  | ||
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SatedSC2
England3012 Posts
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On July 20 2014 11:00 Konranjyoutai wrote: In order to tech to ultras at 5/3 you need to spend over 1200 gas, let alone the gas required to get the ultras. Not only this but there was clearly a pack of 20 lings sitting next to the ultra and only half was left when they went back to the fight. Glings did aggro, Funka clicked on the ultra and it had 15 kills | ||
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Exarl25
1887 Posts
On July 20 2014 11:00 Musicus wrote: But Ultras can't be microed at all, they are great to crush an attacking on creep but you really can't attack with them. They just get kited to deat, 10 marauders kill 10 ultras off creep. You can't counter micro vs kiting bio. I'd ove to have that charge from the beta back as an upgrad, of course Terran would need something cool too then :D. You wrap around with lings. Or engage in a position where the Terran can't kite backwards endlessly. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
Brood War hero ultralisk. Had some ridiculous stats, like 50 damage and 800 health. And 5 base armour, as well as much high er move speed. Even though it didn't do splash damage, it was still advised to have a platoon of tanks firing upon them. Note that this was only a thing in the campaign.  | ||
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