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On July 09 2014 23:46 duckk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:41 sAsImre wrote:On July 09 2014 23:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Sigh, all-kill formats really are terrible get 1 superstar. win the tournament. gg. (just like individual tournaments zzz) I personally like KOTH style leagues better (NGL in wc3 was amazing). If you are unable to race+map pick kill a teams player then that is your own teams fault not a format issue.
the skill discrepancy in teams is so huge that it's pointless. Inno and Taeja are so far above everyone else that it's 100% stupid, hell inno is 33-4.
you're getting dunked because you've a balanced team even if you've pretty good players (Axiom eg)
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On July 09 2014 23:45 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:43 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 23:41 sAsImre wrote:On July 09 2014 23:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Sigh, all-kill formats really are terrible get 1 superstar. win the tournament. gg. (just like individual tournaments zzz) "team league" too bad the acer-axiom adventure was in GSTL and not PL :'( Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:45 klup wrote:The final is a bo1 format. The one winning between Innovation and Taeja gets his team the tournament  bo3 with the wonderful revive rule.
Ah yes forgot the revive thing!
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On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC
There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often).
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I'd be more fine with it if there wasn't the revive rule because at least you then can prepare a sniper build for that one player. You can't do that when he can then just be sent out again.
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On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often).
he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill
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Why did Hasu chase that all the way?
Taeja somehow wins after losing all those SCVs and a lot of army
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On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill
Well let's see shall we:
Poll: What format do you prefer?Proleague (72) 62% All-kill no revive (35) 30% All-kill with revive (10) 9% 117 total votes Your vote: What format do you prefer? (Vote): All-kill with revive
(Vote): All-kill no revive
(Vote): Proleague
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On July 09 2014 23:55 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill Well let's see shall we: + Show Spoiler +Poll: What format do you prefer?Proleague (72) 62% All-kill no revive (35) 30% All-kill with revive (10) 9% 117 total votes Your vote: What format do you prefer? (Vote): All-kill with revive
(Vote): All-kill no revive
(Vote): Proleague
I prefer the PL format, but I also like variety in tournament formats
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On July 09 2014 23:43 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:41 sAsImre wrote:On July 09 2014 23:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Sigh, all-kill formats really are terrible get 1 superstar. win the tournament. gg. (just like individual tournaments zzz) "team league"
not like youre forced to participate but rather qq about all kill formats, classy
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On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill
You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted?
That makes little sense. Personally I've already discussed my opinion on the format in the past with the organizers and you will have to forgive my frustration. We prepare to beat a team, but then we run into the wall of Innovation and don't get to play against that team, only against a player who we know is extremely good. That's not a team-league, that's getting thrashed by a superstar and it's rather disheartening. I prefer teamleagues that demonstrate the depth of a teams roster, which is what Proleague format is designed to do.
At least that won't happen in the losers bracket and we can actually show you a team match. We are sorry to our fans for a disappointing result.
not like youre forced to participate but rather qq about all kill formats, classy
German TaKe fans always have such predictable defensive reactions of anything organized by him. You are no exception. Relax, nobody is hating on TaKe, some of just take issue with the format of the event.
What other teamleagues are there to participate in exactly? You are quite literally talking about the only one, for a team that was built to play in GSTL, a teamleague. Yes, we have a great choice, we either play or... don't play. Not "forced" to participate, but clearly not in our best interests not to participate. We're very glad ATC exists, we would prefer it be a different format. Clan Wars was created because I thought an alternative format was needed for foreign teams to participate in, unfortunately with chemo kicking my ass I can't do it at the moment.
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On July 09 2014 23:55 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill Well let's see shall we: Poll: What format do you prefer?Proleague (72) 62% All-kill no revive (35) 30% All-kill with revive (10) 9% 117 total votes Your vote: What format do you prefer? (Vote): All-kill with revive
(Vote): All-kill no revive
(Vote): Proleague
I think we have to distinguish a bit here, dependent on roster size. With 6+ players (6 1v1, not 6 guys in the roster), I'd prefer PL format, with less people, I'm favoring all-kill no revive.
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Alright, who voted for revive?
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On July 09 2014 23:59 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Alright, who voted for revive?
Satan
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On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted?
yes, I think it would have more views than lost in the middle of a LR thread, especially if you are the creator of the threads, that automatically attract more ppl
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On July 10 2014 00:01 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted? yes, I think it would have more views than lost in the middle of a LR thread, especially if you are the creator of the threads, that automatically attract more ppl
Debatable. LR threads tend to be pretty full.
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On July 10 2014 00:01 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted? yes, I think it would have more views than lost in the middle of a LR thread, especially if you are the creator of the threads, that automatically attract more ppl
As I said before, we've already discussed the format with the organizers. Creating a thread would make little difference at this point.
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On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often). he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted? That makes little sense. Personally I've already discussed my opinion on the format in the past with the organizers and you will have to forgive my frustration. We prepare to beat a team, but then we run into the wall of Innovation and don't get to play against that team, only against a player who we know is extremely good. That's not a team-league, that's getting thrashed by a superstar and it's rather disheartening. I prefer teamleagues that demonstrate the depth of a teams roster, which is what Proleague format is designed to do. At least that won't happen in the losers bracket and we can actually show you a team match. We are sorry to our fans for a disappointing result. Show nested quote +not like youre forced to participate but rather qq about all kill formats, classy German TaKe fans always have such predictable defensive reactions of anything organized by him. You are no exception. What other teamleagues are there to participate in exactly? You are quite literally talking about the only one, for a team that was built to play in GSTL, a teamleague. Yes, we have a great choice, we either play or... don't play. Not "forced" to participate, but clearly not in our best interests not to participate.
Correct me if i'm wrong but aren't Proleague playoffs played in all-kill format as well just like ATC (except ace revive)?
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What happend in Sjaak vs Snute?
Also, what's up with the stream? Anyone else getting stuttering like it's very low fps?
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On July 10 2014 00:03 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
Correct me if i'm wrong but aren't Proleague playoffs played in all-kill format as well just like ATC (except ace revive)?
They are.
I wouldn't mind a mixed format. I think GSTL was perfect for that, it provided both. I think doing the entire season and the playoffs in a BO9 revive format is not the best way to go about things.
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