• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:42
CEST 13:42
KST 20:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple2BSL Season 2312Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Grand Finals ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder Syncronization issues and can't find games an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot NaDa's Body BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 1 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] IPSL is Back With Winter 26-27!
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Violent-Cooperative Play and…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9314 users

[ATC] Season 3 Playoffs, Day 1 - Page 12

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 46 Next All
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
July 09 2014 15:09 GMT
#221
On July 10 2014 00:02 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 00:01 Yhamm wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC

There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often).

he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill


You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted?

yes, I think it would have more views than lost in the middle of a LR thread, especially if you are the creator of the threads, that automatically attract more ppl


As I said before, we've already discussed the format with the organizers. Creating a thread would make little difference at this point.


I would prefer a separate thread as well to see what the community and other teams think (if you are interested in that). Otherwise people will regard what it is being said only as a reaction to a single result. Some users that don't read the LR stuff can participate as well and some people might bring up arguments they don't bother to bring up during LR.
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 15:10:38
July 09 2014 15:10 GMT
#222
On July 09 2014 23:55 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC

There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often).

he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill


Well let's see shall we:

Poll: What format do you prefer?

Proleague (72)
 
62%

All-kill no revive (35)
 
30%

All-kill with revive (10)
 
9%

117 total votes

Your vote: What format do you prefer?

(Vote): All-kill with revive
(Vote): All-kill no revive
(Vote): Proleague




I know it's only a sample size of 34 so far but I think 22-12, almost double the support, is pretty overwhelmingly in favour of the proleague format.

It's what the fans want, I hope the next season could use the proleague format. Or at the very least ditch the revive rule.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
July 09 2014 15:10 GMT
#223
On July 10 2014 00:02 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 00:01 Yhamm wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC

There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often).

he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill


You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted?

yes, I think it would have more views than lost in the middle of a LR thread, especially if you are the creator of the threads, that automatically attract more ppl


As I said before, we've already discussed the format with the organizers. Creating a thread would make little difference at this point.

then really there is no point to talk about it all the time if you think nothing can be done to change organizers point of view
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 09 2014 15:11 GMT
#224
On July 10 2014 00:10 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 00:02 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:01 Yhamm wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC

There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often).

he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill


You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted?

yes, I think it would have more views than lost in the middle of a LR thread, especially if you are the creator of the threads, that automatically attract more ppl


As I said before, we've already discussed the format with the organizers. Creating a thread would make little difference at this point.

then really there is no point to talk about it all the time if you think nothing can be done to change organizers point of view


there is nothing to talk about the game since they're trash anyway atm...
Zest fanboy.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
July 09 2014 15:12 GMT
#225
On July 10 2014 00:10 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 00:02 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:01 Yhamm wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC

There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often).

he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill


You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted?

yes, I think it would have more views than lost in the middle of a LR thread, especially if you are the creator of the threads, that automatically attract more ppl


As I said before, we've already discussed the format with the organizers. Creating a thread would make little difference at this point.

then really there is no point to talk about it all the time if you think nothing can be done to change organizers point of view


"All the time"? It's not discussed that often and also it's an LR thread, there's not a lack of space, there is no harm in discussing it.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10165 Posts
July 09 2014 15:16 GMT
#226
Inbetween breaks there is enough time to discuss this kind of stuff. So why not.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 15:17:42
July 09 2014 15:17 GMT
#227
On July 10 2014 00:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 00:10 Yhamm wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:02 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:01 Yhamm wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC

There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often).

he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill


You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted?

yes, I think it would have more views than lost in the middle of a LR thread, especially if you are the creator of the threads, that automatically attract more ppl


As I said before, we've already discussed the format with the organizers. Creating a thread would make little difference at this point.

then really there is no point to talk about it all the time if you think nothing can be done to change organizers point of view


"All the time"? It's not discussed that often and also it's an LR thread, there's not a lack of space, there is no harm in discussing it.

all the time as "almost each time Axiom play in ATC" since that's when you are on LR thread
I just don't understand why you so want to "discuss" about that in LR threads but think it would be useless to create a constructive thread and ask the opinions of everyone...

personally, I would like ATC to have 2 divisions of 6 or 7 teams each, and use 2 round robin, 1 in all kill format and the other in PL format.
then top 2 go directly in offline grand finals, without playoffs

and the top 2 of division 2 are promoted to div 1
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
July 09 2014 15:22 GMT
#228
On July 10 2014 00:17 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 00:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:10 Yhamm wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:02 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:01 Yhamm wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC

There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often).

he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill


You would rather someone make an extra thread than criticize the format in the thread for the tournament where that feedback is supposed to be posted?

yes, I think it would have more views than lost in the middle of a LR thread, especially if you are the creator of the threads, that automatically attract more ppl


As I said before, we've already discussed the format with the organizers. Creating a thread would make little difference at this point.

then really there is no point to talk about it all the time if you think nothing can be done to change organizers point of view


"All the time"? It's not discussed that often and also it's an LR thread, there's not a lack of space, there is no harm in discussing it.

all the time as "almost each time Axiom play in ATC" since that's when you are on LR thread
I just don't understand why you so want to "discuss" about that in LR threads but think it would be useless to create a constructive thread and ask the opinions of everyone...

personally, I would like ATC to have 2 divisions of 6 or 7 teams each, and use 2 round robin, 1 in all kill format and the other in PL format.
then top 2 go directly in offline grand finals, without playoffs

and the top 2 of division 2 are promoted to div 1


The only reason I'm discussing it is because you didn't want me to I was happy just to make a statement about how I disliked All-kill and leave it at that, but you insisted on making it a conversation so this is all your doing
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 09 2014 15:23 GMT
#229
Epic memes
Community News
TL+ Member
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 09 2014 15:25 GMT
#230
I wrote an entier thing the last time this topic came around. For team leagues in SC2, there have been 6-7 other formats.

For brevity's sake I took out the EG Masters Cup because no one has the time for 5 bo3's and no one likes the weird "field a player twice during normal play, but use someone else as ace" bo7 thingy.

The best done among all of the ones ever run is GSTL Season 2: (Wiki)2013 Global StarCraft II Team League Season 2

2 rounds of AK, 2 rounds of PL format. With 12 teams in the league this works out fine, but would probably be harder to organize.

There is Also (Wiki)Shoutcraft Clan Wars

Probably the most diverse and fun format as it includes Starbow, 2v2 and PL.

(Wiki)IPL Team Arena Challenge/3

There's also IPL Team Arena. Instead of qualifiers into round robin, you could just do a massive doulble bracket elim with either PL or AK format.

Then there's also other random formats like bo5 PL style if thye need shorter broadcasts, or the IPL Fight Club bounty rule if you need to make generally useless matches more exciting.
Moderator
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 09 2014 15:26 GMT
#231
is it ultra rush or 2base infestors this time?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
July 09 2014 15:27 GMT
#232
On July 10 2014 00:26 Ej_ wrote:
is it ultra rush or 2base infestors this time?

ultra rush. I saw him do it on stream :D
I love hellbats
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
July 09 2014 15:28 GMT
#233
What's the point of rushing ultras if you only can afford like 2 of them?
hundred thousand krouner
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 09 2014 15:28 GMT
#234
On July 10 2014 00:27 GreenMash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 00:26 Ej_ wrote:
is it ultra rush or 2base infestors this time?

ultra rush. I saw him do it on stream :D

yeah but hes done both before :^)
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 09 2014 15:28 GMT
#235
Starbuck is weird as fuck.
Moderator
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 09 2014 15:29 GMT
#236
I love this
Community News
TL+ Member
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
July 09 2014 15:30 GMT
#237
I'm terran but I want this to work !
Polt | Bomber | MMA | Taeja | Maru | TY | Byun | Innovation
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
July 09 2014 15:31 GMT
#238
this was fun. i bet taeja laughed
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
July 09 2014 15:31 GMT
#239
good try...
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
July 09 2014 15:31 GMT
#240
What a horrible strategy. A few ultras off creep with no banelings, not too hard for Taeja to target them down.
hundred thousand krouner
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 46 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
11:00
WardiTV 10 Playoffs
SHIN vs MaxPaxLIVE!
herO vs HeRoMaRinELIVE!
ByuN vs Classic
Clem vs Rogue
IntoTheiNu 518
WardiTV515
TaKeTV 336
IndyStarCraft 110
Rex97
Liquipedia
CranKy Ducklings
10:00
Master Swan Open #107 (SHIN Mod Edition)
CranKy Ducklings36
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko298
mouzHeroMarine 223
ProTech131
IndyStarCraft 110
Rex 97
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 25909
Larva 2048
Snow 1565
Mini 1138
EffOrt 856
BeSt 560
actioN 231
ggaemo 138
HiyA 65
Barracks 63
[ Show more ]
sSak 50
910 45
Sharp 41
sorry 40
soO 24
ToSsGirL 24
Free 19
JulyZerg 11
yabsab 9
Noble 6
Dota 2
Gorgc4731
Dendi446
Counter-Strike
edward85
Other Games
gofns35361
singsing1574
B2W.Neo307
crisheroes287
Pyrionflax254
DeMusliM219
Mew2King103
ArmadaUGS61
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream17329
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 513
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 309
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH263
• StrangeGG 56
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP10
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2317
• WagamamaTV158
League of Legends
• Jankos3635
• Stunt1005
Upcoming Events
AI Arena Tournament
5h 18m
BSL: Ladder Tournament
7h 18m
GSL
20h 18m
Yamato Cup
1d 3h
BSL Open Qualifier
1d 7h
BSL Open Qualifier
1d 7h
Replay Cast
1d 12h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 22h
Soma vs Jaedong
WardiTV Weekly
1d 23h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Online Event
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.