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[SPL] MVP vs SKT T1 Round 1 2014 - Page 27

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UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
December 29 2013 10:36 GMT
#521
On December 29 2013 19:34 GTR wrote:
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On December 29 2013 19:33 UmberBane wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:32 GTR wrote:
wow the guy came from jeju (island 5 hours away from seoul) just to see the korean caster live


Why is he wearing such a breathing protection thingy? Are people from rural areas scared of pollution in big cities like Seoul or something?


if you're ill it's common courtesy in east asia to wear a mask as to not spread your illness


Ah okay. That's... kinda nice of them
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51500 Posts
December 29 2013 10:37 GMT
#522
come august that sk telecom jingle is going to be grating to the ears
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
December 29 2013 10:37 GMT
#523
On December 29 2013 19:36 vthree wrote:
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On December 29 2013 19:33 Ctesias wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:33 vthree wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:30 Figgy wrote:
I don't understand why Terran refuses to build 1-2 tanks on that map vs blink stalkers. He had more than enough time for it, would have been an easy hold.


Because 1 tank does nothing vs blink stalkers...

He did say 1-2. 2 must absolutely crush it.


If you have both tanks in the main, the Protoss time wraps your ramp and kills your natural... That map is just terrible for TvP.


Is there a map that isn't?
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this isn't balance whine this is a zerg asking a TvP question
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
December 29 2013 10:37 GMT
#524
YES! Sick new map!
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n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
December 29 2013 10:37 GMT
#525
On December 29 2013 19:36 Schelim wrote:
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On December 29 2013 19:35 AxionSteel wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:34 n0ise wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:31 architecture wrote:
Don't see how tank or bunker works on that map. There is way too much room to maneuver around.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/index.php?title=File:Yeonsu_LE.jpg&filetimestamp=20130822204748


just get 3-4 tanks, 4 bunkers, stim and medivacs and stop crying ffs


Rushing to Neosteel frame along with a couple of ravens would do wonders against this push. Dream just didn't make the correct reads.

BC/ghost should hold that no problem imo. especially if you also make a positional PF.


So much good advice in this thread, it's just Terrans refusing to adapt and keep whine whine whine
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 10:38:31
December 29 2013 10:37 GMT
#526
So in other words the map is to blame. Which again begs the question - why didn't Dream take that into consideration and made another bunker? If I play on a map with a giant natural ramp and I scout a 2rax, I'm making more than 2 sentries. It's called adapting

Not that anyone does that anymore but you get the point
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Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 10:38:53
December 29 2013 10:37 GMT
#527
On December 29 2013 19:30 Nezgar wrote:
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On December 29 2013 19:27 Snusmumriken wrote:
This is fucking bullshit frankly. Scout the build, prepare accordingly. Proceed to die because of timewarp and msc ubervision.


That was as far away from a good preperation as you can get... Build a bunker, maybe add a siegetank and he's safe as many other terrans have shown before. That was just Dream being sloppy.


blatant lie. If you try to add siegetanks you cut marauders which are way better at dealing with this build, in particular because siegetanks are fucking useless apart from defending (and you need 2 at least). Putting down too many bunkers mean you cut units, at which point the protoss can just blink on top of the bunker and kill it quickly and proceed to kill yo ubeause you have nothing outside the bunker. If you cut too many scvs you risk falling behind even with perfect defence since you dont know if protoss is cutting probes or not.

Rain fucked up. He got scouted, he forgot warpgate, but no... lets talk about dream not building a ring of bunkers around his base. Forget the fact that he actually needs units IN his bunker, must find excuse.

Such skill, so amaze.
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 29 2013 10:37 GMT
#528
On December 29 2013 19:37 GTR wrote:
come august that sk telecom jingle is going to be grating to the ears

I thought it was my computer making a weird noise.

Why would they add that?
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Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
December 29 2013 10:38 GMT
#529
Oh my this production quality seems so much better than last season. Proleague <3 <3
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 10:39:04
December 29 2013 10:38 GMT
#530
On December 29 2013 19:35 FFW_Rude wrote:
Can we stop to whine about that first game ? Dear did not put a bunker where 100% of the blink all in arrive. Doesn't matter that Rain screwd up. It's like scouting a 2rax and going 3hatch before pool.

Stop it already and enjoy the game.


No, do you play this game? Blink can come from multiple places on Yeonsu.. That is why Terrans are complaining... Protoss has MSC and they know where the weakest point is and attack there...

It isn't close the 3 hatch before pool you idiot.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 29 2013 10:38 GMT
#531
On December 29 2013 19:33 covetousrat wrote:
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On December 29 2013 19:32 bo1b wrote:
Does anyone have an answer to youtube repeating like its got a scratch on it? Twitch is so laggy for me and I'd really like to watch this in hd


Lol im watching on Mobile resolution ffs!!

I shouldn't complain too much , it's pretty much a first world problem that I can't watch professional video gaming in hd :D
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 10:40:10
December 29 2013 10:38 GMT
#532
On December 29 2013 19:35 KristofferAG wrote:
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On December 29 2013 19:34 GTR wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:33 UmberBane wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:32 GTR wrote:
wow the guy came from jeju (island 5 hours away from seoul) just to see the korean caster live


Why is he wearing such a breathing protection thingy? Are people from rural areas scared of pollution in big cities like Seoul or something?


if you're ill it's common courtesy in east asia to wear a mask as to not spread your illness

Sure does sound better than getting coughed in the face on public transport.

I always thought coughing isn't spreading colds. Only sniffing.

Not that coughing in other guys face is right, rofl.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
December 29 2013 10:38 GMT
#533
By the way, why when I click on spoiler it does nothing except to go on the top of the page ?
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UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
December 29 2013 10:38 GMT
#534
They should change that intro, it's interrupting the crowd
kckkryptonite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1126 Posts
December 29 2013 10:38 GMT
#535
On December 29 2013 19:30 Ammanas wrote:
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On December 29 2013 19:27 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:26 Ammanas wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:25 kckkryptonite wrote:
Timings don't match up, gets scouted, doesn't matter - MSC.

No, don't even try to complain. Dream just hanled it bad, he could have and should have hold this.


I guess the "he should had made one more bunker". And if he hade made that, always "one more" bunker.
A tactic that is being scouted, and is failing due to forgetting something like Warp Gate should never be able to break a defending player.

Nice start now for SKT1.

Well, it's not never. He should have hold it if he didn't make crucial mistakes. In this case it was not building a bunker in a blink spot. Also his army positioning was terrible, as he had to run through 2 time warps just in order to get into range.


And apparently Rain didn't make any crucial mistakes. How exactly is the T supposed to keep constant tabs on the blink Stalker army with that many points to defend?
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 29 2013 10:39 GMT
#536
On December 29 2013 19:36 Glorfindel! wrote:
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On December 29 2013 19:35 Zealously wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:34 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:31 Zealously wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:30 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:27 Snusmumriken wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:25 Qwerty85 wrote:
These blink maps seriously need to go away.


Did you not see the new maps? blink will be even stronger in new map pool.

This is fucking bullshit frankly. Scout the build, prepare accordingly. Proceed to die because of timewarp and msc ubervision.


If only Dream had prepared accordingly


You mean like Rain did by letting his cheese getting scouted and forgetting his most important upgrade? ^^
To bad Dream did not make a third bunker on the right place, he clearly deserved to loose!

Flawless logic... :D:D:D:D


So, essentially, what you're saying is that Dream played an otherwise flawless game? Don't be stupid.


No, but with much less flaws than Rain as far as I could see from the spectators view.
However your Protossbiases are incredible
And there is no reasong to call anyone stupid, right?


I tend to call people stupid when they are


Feels like you are making some personal insults which clearly does not belong in a thread?
Especially a TL-writer should know better?
Cheering for MVP now, want an ace match


I'm insulting what you're saying because it is stupid. I can't convince you otherwise, but you're sadly mistaken if you think the only mistake Dream made in that game was not building an additional bunker. Likewise, you seem to underestimate the efficiency of Rain's micro. Not just any Protoss wins in that situation. It takes mistakes from Dream and good play from Rain, and both happened.
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noobPride
Profile Joined June 2013
Spain333 Posts
December 29 2013 10:39 GMT
#537
I'm loving the youtube stream
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Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
December 29 2013 10:39 GMT
#538
On December 29 2013 19:35 FFW_Rude wrote:
Can we stop to whine about that first game ? Dear did not put a bunker where 100% of the blink all in arrive. Doesn't matter that Rain screwd up. It's like scouting a 2rax and going 3hatch before pool.

Stop it already and enjoy the game.


Lol, making 3 instead of 4 bunkers is equivalent to scouting 2 rax and going 3 hatch before pool?
You can't be serious.

Dream didn't go for 2 rax fast medivacs, he had 3 rax with addons which is good enough production to defend such aggression. The problem is that the margin for error is so small that terran will lose to that strat 90% of the time.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
December 29 2013 10:39 GMT
#539
Can you hit the natural that the protoss took from the base to the left with tanks ? Collosus ?
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50586 Posts
December 29 2013 10:39 GMT
#540
On December 29 2013 19:37 GTR wrote:
come august that sk telecom jingle is going to be grating to the ears

mindmindmind much?
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