• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:29
CEST 20:29
KST 03:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway112v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature2Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event18Serral wins EWC 202549
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!10Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments7
StarCraft 2
General
Playing 1v1 for Cash? (Read before comment) RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again! What mix of new and old maps do you want in the next 1v1 ladder pool? (SC2) : Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL ASL 20 HYPE VIDEO! BW General Discussion New season has just come in ladder [ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro24 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro24 Group A BWCL Season 63 Announcement
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Biochemical Cost of Gami…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1645 users

[SPL] MVP vs SKT T1 Round 1 2014 - Page 26

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 24 25 26 27 28 46 Next All
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 10:34:30
December 29 2013 10:34 GMT
#501
On December 29 2013 19:32 Glorfindel! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:30 Nezgar wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:27 Snusmumriken wrote:
This is fucking bullshit frankly. Scout the build, prepare accordingly. Proceed to die because of timewarp and msc ubervision.


That was as far away from a good preperation as you can get... Build a bunker, maybe add a siegetank and he's safe as many other terrans have shown before. That was just Dream being sloppy.


Once again it is not really fair calling Dream sloppy for not making a THIRD bunker.
Rain forgot his most important upgrade and let his cheese get scouted. How sloppy was that on a scale?
Dreams was not making a Third bunker in the "right" spot.
Is that even.. Comparable?


He could have built that 3rd bunker and gotten a single tank and been 100% fine against any blink location.

He knew how fast his expansion was compared to Rain, and he 100% knew it was a blink ALL-IN. Yet he decided to play super greedy (even trying to get +1 before it hit) and he payed for it.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
December 29 2013 10:34 GMT
#502
On December 29 2013 19:31 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:30 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:27 Snusmumriken wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:25 Qwerty85 wrote:
These blink maps seriously need to go away.


Did you not see the new maps? blink will be even stronger in new map pool.

This is fucking bullshit frankly. Scout the build, prepare accordingly. Proceed to die because of timewarp and msc ubervision.


If only Dream had prepared accordingly


You mean like Rain did by letting his cheese getting scouted and forgetting his most important upgrade? ^^
To bad Dream did not make a third bunker on the right place, he clearly deserved to loose!

Flawless logic... :D:D:D:D


So, essentially, what you're saying is that Dream played an otherwise flawless game? Don't be stupid.


No, but with much less flaws than Rain as far as I could see from the spectators view.
However your Protossbiases are incredible
And there is no reasong to call anyone stupid, right?
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
KoRStarvid
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden767 Posts
December 29 2013 10:34 GMT
#503
Feels so good to have proleague back again! ^^ Hyped as hell
Vertitto
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland750 Posts
December 29 2013 10:34 GMT
#504
On December 29 2013 19:33 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:30 Figgy wrote:
I don't understand why Terran refuses to build 1-2 tanks on that map vs blink stalkers. He had more than enough time for it, would have been an easy hold.


Because 1 tank does nothing vs blink stalkers...


i tell you - bunker upgrades is way to go ; D
FISH MAKE BLUB BLUB
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
December 29 2013 10:34 GMT
#505
anyone knows about the depth of the venue? or everything is already shown on the cam?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 29 2013 10:35 GMT
#506
On December 29 2013 19:34 Glorfindel! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:31 Zealously wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:30 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:27 Snusmumriken wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:25 Qwerty85 wrote:
These blink maps seriously need to go away.


Did you not see the new maps? blink will be even stronger in new map pool.

This is fucking bullshit frankly. Scout the build, prepare accordingly. Proceed to die because of timewarp and msc ubervision.


If only Dream had prepared accordingly


You mean like Rain did by letting his cheese getting scouted and forgetting his most important upgrade? ^^
To bad Dream did not make a third bunker on the right place, he clearly deserved to loose!

Flawless logic... :D:D:D:D


So, essentially, what you're saying is that Dream played an otherwise flawless game? Don't be stupid.


No, but with much less flaws than Rain as far as I could see from the spectators view.
However your Protossbiases are incredible
And there is no reasong to call anyone stupid, right?


I tend to call people stupid when they are
AdministratorBreak the chains
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 29 2013 10:35 GMT
#507
On December 29 2013 19:34 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:33 UmberBane wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:32 GTR wrote:
wow the guy came from jeju (island 5 hours away from seoul) just to see the korean caster live


Why is he wearing such a breathing protection thingy? Are people from rural areas scared of pollution in big cities like Seoul or something?


if you're ill it's common courtesy in east asia to wear a mask as to not spread your illness

Sure does sound better than getting coughed in the face on public transport.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
December 29 2013 10:35 GMT
#508
On December 29 2013 19:32 Glorfindel! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:30 Nezgar wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:27 Snusmumriken wrote:
This is fucking bullshit frankly. Scout the build, prepare accordingly. Proceed to die because of timewarp and msc ubervision.


That was as far away from a good preperation as you can get... Build a bunker, maybe add a siegetank and he's safe as many other terrans have shown before. That was just Dream being sloppy.


Once again it is not really fair calling Dream sloppy for not making a THIRD bunker.
Rain forgot his most important upgrade and let his cheese get scouted. How sloppy was that on a scale?
Dreams was not making a Third bunker in the "right" spot.
Is that even.. Comparable?


Exactly. People who defend blink just focus on Dream's mistakes but in that game. Nobody can play flawless game.
I think Rain did more crucial mistakes but time warp + blink mobility and multiple entry points on Yeonsu favor protoss so much. If you want an honest analysis you need to include Rain's mistakes as well.

It is probably a 90% win strategy on that map, same as for example Star Station or most likely next season Heavy Rain.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 29 2013 10:35 GMT
#509
On December 29 2013 19:34 n0ise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:31 architecture wrote:
Don't see how tank or bunker works on that map. There is way too much room to maneuver around.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/index.php?title=File:Yeonsu_LE.jpg&filetimestamp=20130822204748


just get 3-4 tanks, 4 bunkers, stim and medivacs and stop crying ffs


Rushing to Neosteel frame along with a couple of ravens would do wonders against this push. Dream just didn't make the correct reads.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 29 2013 10:35 GMT
#510
On December 29 2013 19:34 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:33 UmberBane wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:32 GTR wrote:
wow the guy came from jeju (island 5 hours away from seoul) just to see the korean caster live


Why is he wearing such a breathing protection thingy? Are people from rural areas scared of pollution in big cities like Seoul or something?


if you're ill it's common courtesy in east asia to wear a mask as to not spread your illness


I'll never forget Violet winning an MLG Arena while sick and wearing a mask. Made an impression.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
December 29 2013 10:35 GMT
#511
That was some sick timing on the cheer for Wolf's hype question.
Flash | Mvp
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
December 29 2013 10:35 GMT
#512
Can we stop to whine about that first game ? Dear did not put a bunker where 100% of the blink all in arrive. Doesn't matter that Rain screwd up. It's like scouting a 2rax and going 3hatch before pool.

Stop it already and enjoy the game.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
December 29 2013 10:35 GMT
#513
I like the little bridge between the second and third
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
December 29 2013 10:36 GMT
#514
I'm the biggest protoss hater ever but it still annoys me to read so much whining. Please stahp.
Hello
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
December 29 2013 10:36 GMT
#515
On December 29 2013 19:35 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:34 n0ise wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:31 architecture wrote:
Don't see how tank or bunker works on that map. There is way too much room to maneuver around.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/index.php?title=File:Yeonsu_LE.jpg&filetimestamp=20130822204748


just get 3-4 tanks, 4 bunkers, stim and medivacs and stop crying ffs


Rushing to Neosteel frame along with a couple of ravens would do wonders against this push. Dream just didn't make the correct reads.

BC/ghost should hold that no problem imo. especially if you also make a positional PF.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 29 2013 10:36 GMT
#516
On December 29 2013 19:33 Ctesias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:33 vthree wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:30 Figgy wrote:
I don't understand why Terran refuses to build 1-2 tanks on that map vs blink stalkers. He had more than enough time for it, would have been an easy hold.


Because 1 tank does nothing vs blink stalkers...

He did say 1-2. 2 must absolutely crush it.


If you have both tanks in the main, the Protoss time wraps your ramp and kills your natural... That map is just terrible for TvP.
architecture
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States643 Posts
December 29 2013 10:36 GMT
#517
On December 29 2013 19:35 FFW_Rude wrote:
Can we stop to whine about that first game ? Dear did not put a bunker where 100% of the blink all in arrive. Doesn't matter that Rain screwd up. It's like scouting a 2rax and going 3hatch before pool.

Stop it already and enjoy the game.


If he put a bunker there, you cannot find another place to blink up?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/index.php?title=File:Yeonsu_LE.jpg&filetimestamp=20130822204748

You think 2 bunkers is enough for the main?
tpfkan
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
December 29 2013 10:36 GMT
#518
oh a snow map
nice!
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
December 29 2013 10:36 GMT
#519
On December 29 2013 19:35 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:34 GTR wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:33 UmberBane wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:32 GTR wrote:
wow the guy came from jeju (island 5 hours away from seoul) just to see the korean caster live


Why is he wearing such a breathing protection thingy? Are people from rural areas scared of pollution in big cities like Seoul or something?


if you're ill it's common courtesy in east asia to wear a mask as to not spread your illness

Sure does sound better than getting coughed in the face on public transport.

I think it actually does help to reduce the chance of spreading the illness, so its quite nice. Personally I always want to spread my sick as far as I can, so I don't even cover my mouth when sneezing.
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
December 29 2013 10:36 GMT
#520
On December 29 2013 19:35 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:34 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:31 Zealously wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:30 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:27 Snusmumriken wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:25 Qwerty85 wrote:
These blink maps seriously need to go away.


Did you not see the new maps? blink will be even stronger in new map pool.

This is fucking bullshit frankly. Scout the build, prepare accordingly. Proceed to die because of timewarp and msc ubervision.


If only Dream had prepared accordingly


You mean like Rain did by letting his cheese getting scouted and forgetting his most important upgrade? ^^
To bad Dream did not make a third bunker on the right place, he clearly deserved to loose!

Flawless logic... :D:D:D:D


So, essentially, what you're saying is that Dream played an otherwise flawless game? Don't be stupid.


No, but with much less flaws than Rain as far as I could see from the spectators view.
However your Protossbiases are incredible
And there is no reasong to call anyone stupid, right?


I tend to call people stupid when they are


Feels like you are making some personal insults which clearly does not belong in a thread?
Especially a TL-writer should know better?
Cheering for MVP now, want an ace match
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
Prev 1 24 25 26 27 28 46 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 31m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
BRAT_OK 110
MindelVK 86
ProTech74
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3818
Rain 2136
ggaemo 233
EffOrt 224
Soulkey 117
Barracks 92
Mong 88
soO 36
hero 33
Aegong 26
[ Show more ]
Killer 11
Bonyth 10
Dota 2
qojqva3744
Counter-Strike
ScreaM2228
fl0m1075
pashabiceps573
Foxcn324
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu247
Other Games
FrodaN3300
Grubby1134
ceh9702
B2W.Neo416
Hui .121
ArmadaUGS111
C9.Mang097
Trikslyr71
QueenE54
fpsfer 1
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 93
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 23 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta24
• maralekos13
• Reevou 4
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki23
• HerbMon 17
• 80smullet 12
• blackmanpl 6
• Pr0nogo 6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV530
League of Legends
• Nemesis4007
• TFBlade758
Counter-Strike
• Shiphtur189
Other Games
• imaqtpie575
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
5h 31m
Afreeca Starleague
15h 31m
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
16h 31m
Clem vs goblin
ByuN vs SHIN
Online Event
1d 5h
The PondCast
1d 15h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 16h
Zoun vs Bunny
herO vs Solar
Replay Cast
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
SC Evo League
3 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
Classic vs Percival
Spirit vs NightMare
[BSL 2025] Weekly
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
SC Evo League
4 days
BSL Team Wars
5 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Queen vs HyuN
EffOrt vs Calm
Wardi Open
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Rush vs TBD
Jaedong vs Mong
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Jiahua Invitational
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
EC S1
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.