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[SPL] MVP vs SKT T1 Round 1 2014 - Page 26

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Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 10:34:30
December 29 2013 10:34 GMT
#501
On December 29 2013 19:32 Glorfindel! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:30 Nezgar wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:27 Snusmumriken wrote:
This is fucking bullshit frankly. Scout the build, prepare accordingly. Proceed to die because of timewarp and msc ubervision.


That was as far away from a good preperation as you can get... Build a bunker, maybe add a siegetank and he's safe as many other terrans have shown before. That was just Dream being sloppy.


Once again it is not really fair calling Dream sloppy for not making a THIRD bunker.
Rain forgot his most important upgrade and let his cheese get scouted. How sloppy was that on a scale?
Dreams was not making a Third bunker in the "right" spot.
Is that even.. Comparable?


He could have built that 3rd bunker and gotten a single tank and been 100% fine against any blink location.

He knew how fast his expansion was compared to Rain, and he 100% knew it was a blink ALL-IN. Yet he decided to play super greedy (even trying to get +1 before it hit) and he payed for it.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
December 29 2013 10:34 GMT
#502
On December 29 2013 19:31 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:30 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:27 Snusmumriken wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:25 Qwerty85 wrote:
These blink maps seriously need to go away.


Did you not see the new maps? blink will be even stronger in new map pool.

This is fucking bullshit frankly. Scout the build, prepare accordingly. Proceed to die because of timewarp and msc ubervision.


If only Dream had prepared accordingly


You mean like Rain did by letting his cheese getting scouted and forgetting his most important upgrade? ^^
To bad Dream did not make a third bunker on the right place, he clearly deserved to loose!

Flawless logic... :D:D:D:D


So, essentially, what you're saying is that Dream played an otherwise flawless game? Don't be stupid.


No, but with much less flaws than Rain as far as I could see from the spectators view.
However your Protossbiases are incredible
And there is no reasong to call anyone stupid, right?
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
KoRStarvid
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden767 Posts
December 29 2013 10:34 GMT
#503
Feels so good to have proleague back again! ^^ Hyped as hell
Vertitto
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland750 Posts
December 29 2013 10:34 GMT
#504
On December 29 2013 19:33 vthree wrote:
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On December 29 2013 19:30 Figgy wrote:
I don't understand why Terran refuses to build 1-2 tanks on that map vs blink stalkers. He had more than enough time for it, would have been an easy hold.


Because 1 tank does nothing vs blink stalkers...


i tell you - bunker upgrades is way to go ; D
FISH MAKE BLUB BLUB
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
December 29 2013 10:34 GMT
#505
anyone knows about the depth of the venue? or everything is already shown on the cam?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 29 2013 10:35 GMT
#506
On December 29 2013 19:34 Glorfindel! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:31 Zealously wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:30 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:27 Snusmumriken wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:25 Qwerty85 wrote:
These blink maps seriously need to go away.


Did you not see the new maps? blink will be even stronger in new map pool.

This is fucking bullshit frankly. Scout the build, prepare accordingly. Proceed to die because of timewarp and msc ubervision.


If only Dream had prepared accordingly


You mean like Rain did by letting his cheese getting scouted and forgetting his most important upgrade? ^^
To bad Dream did not make a third bunker on the right place, he clearly deserved to loose!

Flawless logic... :D:D:D:D


So, essentially, what you're saying is that Dream played an otherwise flawless game? Don't be stupid.


No, but with much less flaws than Rain as far as I could see from the spectators view.
However your Protossbiases are incredible
And there is no reasong to call anyone stupid, right?


I tend to call people stupid when they are
AdministratorBreak the chains
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 29 2013 10:35 GMT
#507
On December 29 2013 19:34 GTR wrote:
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On December 29 2013 19:33 UmberBane wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:32 GTR wrote:
wow the guy came from jeju (island 5 hours away from seoul) just to see the korean caster live


Why is he wearing such a breathing protection thingy? Are people from rural areas scared of pollution in big cities like Seoul or something?


if you're ill it's common courtesy in east asia to wear a mask as to not spread your illness

Sure does sound better than getting coughed in the face on public transport.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
December 29 2013 10:35 GMT
#508
On December 29 2013 19:32 Glorfindel! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:30 Nezgar wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:27 Snusmumriken wrote:
This is fucking bullshit frankly. Scout the build, prepare accordingly. Proceed to die because of timewarp and msc ubervision.


That was as far away from a good preperation as you can get... Build a bunker, maybe add a siegetank and he's safe as many other terrans have shown before. That was just Dream being sloppy.


Once again it is not really fair calling Dream sloppy for not making a THIRD bunker.
Rain forgot his most important upgrade and let his cheese get scouted. How sloppy was that on a scale?
Dreams was not making a Third bunker in the "right" spot.
Is that even.. Comparable?


Exactly. People who defend blink just focus on Dream's mistakes but in that game. Nobody can play flawless game.
I think Rain did more crucial mistakes but time warp + blink mobility and multiple entry points on Yeonsu favor protoss so much. If you want an honest analysis you need to include Rain's mistakes as well.

It is probably a 90% win strategy on that map, same as for example Star Station or most likely next season Heavy Rain.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 29 2013 10:35 GMT
#509
On December 29 2013 19:34 n0ise wrote:
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On December 29 2013 19:31 architecture wrote:
Don't see how tank or bunker works on that map. There is way too much room to maneuver around.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/index.php?title=File:Yeonsu_LE.jpg&filetimestamp=20130822204748


just get 3-4 tanks, 4 bunkers, stim and medivacs and stop crying ffs


Rushing to Neosteel frame along with a couple of ravens would do wonders against this push. Dream just didn't make the correct reads.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 29 2013 10:35 GMT
#510
On December 29 2013 19:34 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:33 UmberBane wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:32 GTR wrote:
wow the guy came from jeju (island 5 hours away from seoul) just to see the korean caster live


Why is he wearing such a breathing protection thingy? Are people from rural areas scared of pollution in big cities like Seoul or something?


if you're ill it's common courtesy in east asia to wear a mask as to not spread your illness


I'll never forget Violet winning an MLG Arena while sick and wearing a mask. Made an impression.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
December 29 2013 10:35 GMT
#511
That was some sick timing on the cheer for Wolf's hype question.
Flash | Mvp
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
December 29 2013 10:35 GMT
#512
Can we stop to whine about that first game ? Dear did not put a bunker where 100% of the blink all in arrive. Doesn't matter that Rain screwd up. It's like scouting a 2rax and going 3hatch before pool.

Stop it already and enjoy the game.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
December 29 2013 10:35 GMT
#513
I like the little bridge between the second and third
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
December 29 2013 10:36 GMT
#514
I'm the biggest protoss hater ever but it still annoys me to read so much whining. Please stahp.
Hello
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
December 29 2013 10:36 GMT
#515
On December 29 2013 19:35 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:34 n0ise wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:31 architecture wrote:
Don't see how tank or bunker works on that map. There is way too much room to maneuver around.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/index.php?title=File:Yeonsu_LE.jpg&filetimestamp=20130822204748


just get 3-4 tanks, 4 bunkers, stim and medivacs and stop crying ffs


Rushing to Neosteel frame along with a couple of ravens would do wonders against this push. Dream just didn't make the correct reads.

BC/ghost should hold that no problem imo. especially if you also make a positional PF.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 29 2013 10:36 GMT
#516
On December 29 2013 19:33 Ctesias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:33 vthree wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:30 Figgy wrote:
I don't understand why Terran refuses to build 1-2 tanks on that map vs blink stalkers. He had more than enough time for it, would have been an easy hold.


Because 1 tank does nothing vs blink stalkers...

He did say 1-2. 2 must absolutely crush it.


If you have both tanks in the main, the Protoss time wraps your ramp and kills your natural... That map is just terrible for TvP.
architecture
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States643 Posts
December 29 2013 10:36 GMT
#517
On December 29 2013 19:35 FFW_Rude wrote:
Can we stop to whine about that first game ? Dear did not put a bunker where 100% of the blink all in arrive. Doesn't matter that Rain screwd up. It's like scouting a 2rax and going 3hatch before pool.

Stop it already and enjoy the game.


If he put a bunker there, you cannot find another place to blink up?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/index.php?title=File:Yeonsu_LE.jpg&filetimestamp=20130822204748

You think 2 bunkers is enough for the main?
tpfkan
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
December 29 2013 10:36 GMT
#518
oh a snow map
nice!
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
December 29 2013 10:36 GMT
#519
On December 29 2013 19:35 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:34 GTR wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:33 UmberBane wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:32 GTR wrote:
wow the guy came from jeju (island 5 hours away from seoul) just to see the korean caster live


Why is he wearing such a breathing protection thingy? Are people from rural areas scared of pollution in big cities like Seoul or something?


if you're ill it's common courtesy in east asia to wear a mask as to not spread your illness

Sure does sound better than getting coughed in the face on public transport.

I think it actually does help to reduce the chance of spreading the illness, so its quite nice. Personally I always want to spread my sick as far as I can, so I don't even cover my mouth when sneezing.
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
December 29 2013 10:36 GMT
#520
On December 29 2013 19:35 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:34 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:31 Zealously wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:30 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:27 Snusmumriken wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:25 Qwerty85 wrote:
These blink maps seriously need to go away.


Did you not see the new maps? blink will be even stronger in new map pool.

This is fucking bullshit frankly. Scout the build, prepare accordingly. Proceed to die because of timewarp and msc ubervision.


If only Dream had prepared accordingly


You mean like Rain did by letting his cheese getting scouted and forgetting his most important upgrade? ^^
To bad Dream did not make a third bunker on the right place, he clearly deserved to loose!

Flawless logic... :D:D:D:D


So, essentially, what you're saying is that Dream played an otherwise flawless game? Don't be stupid.


No, but with much less flaws than Rain as far as I could see from the spectators view.
However your Protossbiases are incredible
And there is no reasong to call anyone stupid, right?


I tend to call people stupid when they are


Feels like you are making some personal insults which clearly does not belong in a thread?
Especially a TL-writer should know better?
Cheering for MVP now, want an ace match
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
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