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[SPL] MVP vs SKT T1 Round 1 2014 - Page 28

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foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
December 29 2013 10:39 GMT
#541
Honestly, if you're upset about blink stalkers, send a Protoss yourself?!

There's no such thing as race imba maps in PL.
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
December 29 2013 10:39 GMT
#542
I really like the texturing on this map, very clean and not feeling out of place.
Pokemon Master
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 29 2013 10:39 GMT
#543
IT WORKS :D
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 29 2013 10:40 GMT
#544
On December 29 2013 19:37 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So in other words the map is to blame. Which again begs the question - why didn't Dream take that into consideration and made another bunker? If I play on a map with a giant natural ramp and I scout a 2rax, I'm making more than 2 sentries. It's called adapting

Not that anyone does that anymore but you get the point


Because the game has limited resources and you can build 10 bunkers and have units...
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
December 29 2013 10:40 GMT
#545
I know I've already said it, but the video quality is fucking amazing
KT FlaSh FOREVER
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
December 29 2013 10:41 GMT
#546
a token white guy!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 29 2013 10:41 GMT
#547
Ooo a foreigner, ohai!
Impressed with quality of stream so far, no issues for me lag wise on Twitch watching in source
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
December 29 2013 10:41 GMT
#548
I'm so glad this is happening. I've really missed Proleague...
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 29 2013 10:41 GMT
#549
I like the way this map looks, actually :o

still miss Arkanoid though
AdministratorBreak the chains
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18572 Posts
December 29 2013 10:41 GMT
#550
On December 29 2013 19:40 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:37 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So in other words the map is to blame. Which again begs the question - why didn't Dream take that into consideration and made another bunker? If I play on a map with a giant natural ramp and I scout a 2rax, I'm making more than 2 sentries. It's called adapting

Not that anyone does that anymore but you get the point


Because the game has limited resources and you can build 10 bunkers and have units...


Then dont send out a terran on this map?
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
December 29 2013 10:42 GMT
#551
Did i just see that the kill count on the units are written : "GG"
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 29 2013 10:42 GMT
#552
On December 29 2013 19:39 foxmeep wrote:
Honestly, if you're upset about blink stalkers, send a Protoss yourself?!

There's no such thing as race imba maps in PL.


Have you seen the PL line ups? Do you want every team to send in 4 Ps?
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 29 2013 10:42 GMT
#553
On December 29 2013 19:41 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:40 vthree wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:37 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So in other words the map is to blame. Which again begs the question - why didn't Dream take that into consideration and made another bunker? If I play on a map with a giant natural ramp and I scout a 2rax, I'm making more than 2 sentries. It's called adapting

Not that anyone does that anymore but you get the point


Because the game has limited resources and you can build 10 bunkers and have units...


Then dont send out a terran on this map?


Bingo.

Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
December 29 2013 10:42 GMT
#554
also this map is beautiful
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 29 2013 10:43 GMT
#555
Hey germans, remember to join the Germany group!

http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Standings.php?r=18&g=3038

It's just NovaMB and me right now. Let's catch up to Sweden (14) and Australia (21) !
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
December 29 2013 10:43 GMT
#556
On December 29 2013 19:41 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:40 vthree wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:37 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So in other words the map is to blame. Which again begs the question - why didn't Dream take that into consideration and made another bunker? If I play on a map with a giant natural ramp and I scout a 2rax, I'm making more than 2 sentries. It's called adapting

Not that anyone does that anymore but you get the point


Because the game has limited resources and you can build 10 bunkers and have units...


Then dont send out a terran on this map?


Honestly that was the most surprising thing about that match tbh. In the state PvT meta is in that seems like the least likely map I'd want to send a terran on. Maybe hoping SKT would put a good ZvP zerg on it instead of a toss? Seems kinda silly but the only thing I see
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
December 29 2013 10:43 GMT
#557
On December 29 2013 19:39 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:36 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:35 Zealously wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:34 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:31 Zealously wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:30 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:27 Snusmumriken wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:25 Qwerty85 wrote:
These blink maps seriously need to go away.


Did you not see the new maps? blink will be even stronger in new map pool.

This is fucking bullshit frankly. Scout the build, prepare accordingly. Proceed to die because of timewarp and msc ubervision.


If only Dream had prepared accordingly


You mean like Rain did by letting his cheese getting scouted and forgetting his most important upgrade? ^^
To bad Dream did not make a third bunker on the right place, he clearly deserved to loose!

Flawless logic... :D:D:D:D


So, essentially, what you're saying is that Dream played an otherwise flawless game? Don't be stupid.


No, but with much less flaws than Rain as far as I could see from the spectators view.
However your Protossbiases are incredible
And there is no reasong to call anyone stupid, right?


I tend to call people stupid when they are


Feels like you are making some personal insults which clearly does not belong in a thread?
Especially a TL-writer should know better?
Cheering for MVP now, want an ace match


I'm insulting what you're saying because it is stupid. I can't convince you otherwise, but you're sadly mistaken if you think the only mistake Dream made in that game was not building an additional bunker. Likewise, you seem to underestimate the efficiency of Rain's micro. Not just any Protoss wins in that situation. It takes mistakes from Dream and good play from Rain, and both happened.


When saying:
"Dont Be Stupid" and "I tend to call people stupid" and even quote it, how on earth can you claim that you insult what I am saying and not me in person?
You clearly overstep and insult me because we do not look at the game in the same way.

I can promise I watch just as much SC2 as you and it feels like you feel like your arguments in those threads just "wins" because what you say somehow is supposed to be the truth. When I say that "hey, perhaps that didnt make any sence" you insult me personally by twice calling me stupid. Then you say you didnt, even though you quote it..

I dont even..

:S
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 29 2013 10:43 GMT
#558
On December 29 2013 19:42 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:39 foxmeep wrote:
Honestly, if you're upset about blink stalkers, send a Protoss yourself?!

There's no such thing as race imba maps in PL.


Have you seen the PL line ups? Do you want every team to send in 4 Ps?


I don't think what we, as viewers, want to see is very relevant in this case
AdministratorBreak the chains
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 29 2013 10:43 GMT
#559
On December 29 2013 19:40 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:37 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So in other words the map is to blame. Which again begs the question - why didn't Dream take that into consideration and made another bunker? If I play on a map with a giant natural ramp and I scout a 2rax, I'm making more than 2 sentries. It's called adapting

Not that anyone does that anymore but you get the point


Because the game has limited resources and you can build 10 bunkers and have units...


1 additional bunker in a key location. You know, a bunker already scares a protoss away from blinking in at a certain location. There's no way to know how many/what units are inside and unless you're desperate you're not blinking into it.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
December 29 2013 10:43 GMT
#560
On December 29 2013 19:39 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:36 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:35 Zealously wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:34 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:31 Zealously wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:30 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:27 Snusmumriken wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:25 Qwerty85 wrote:
These blink maps seriously need to go away.


Did you not see the new maps? blink will be even stronger in new map pool.

This is fucking bullshit frankly. Scout the build, prepare accordingly. Proceed to die because of timewarp and msc ubervision.


If only Dream had prepared accordingly


You mean like Rain did by letting his cheese getting scouted and forgetting his most important upgrade? ^^
To bad Dream did not make a third bunker on the right place, he clearly deserved to loose!

Flawless logic... :D:D:D:D


So, essentially, what you're saying is that Dream played an otherwise flawless game? Don't be stupid.


No, but with much less flaws than Rain as far as I could see from the spectators view.
However your Protossbiases are incredible
And there is no reasong to call anyone stupid, right?


I tend to call people stupid when they are


Feels like you are making some personal insults which clearly does not belong in a thread?
Especially a TL-writer should know better?
Cheering for MVP now, want an ace match


I'm insulting what you're saying because it is stupid. I can't convince you otherwise, but you're sadly mistaken if you think the only mistake Dream made in that game was not building an additional bunker. Likewise, you seem to underestimate the efficiency of Rain's micro. Not just any Protoss wins in that situation. It takes mistakes from Dream and good play from Rain, and both happened.


Almost every protoss wins with 2 base blink on maps like Yeonsu or Star Station. Yes, Rain is great, but he screwed up his build pretty bad, made probably the same amount of mistakes as Dream, probably even more but the mobility of stalkers+time warp + multiple entry points make it almost impossible to defend 2 base blink.

You cant even evacuate the natural because protoss is mining back home from 2 bases.

Seriously, saying that blink isn't broken on current maps is like saying 1/1/1 wasn't broken against protoss.
It had the same problems - hard to scout exactly what you are up against and tiny margin for error on protoss part.

I bet you could find errors in every protoss players defense of 1/1/1 back in WoL but that doesn't change the fact the build was too strong and imbalanced.
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