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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 16 2013 19:17 GMT
#1541
ToD showing how to play as foreign protoss: do not plant your third nexus before you have won the game.
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 19:19:01
November 16 2013 19:17 GMT
#1542
On November 17 2013 04:14 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:11 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:08 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:04 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:02 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:57 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:44 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:39 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:37 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:35 Nebuchad wrote:
[quote]

One would have thought that being the SINGLE person in the whole thread who has a problem with flying buildings, you would after some time start to realize that you're on a mute point. But no. I admire your persistence.

It's not the flying buildings, IT'S THE MAP!

Looks like I have a perfectly valid point, otherwise you guys wouldn´t have given up to argue against it.


Oh, the whole "you're arguing with me so I'm right"-thing again. It doesn't work like that tt

It´s not about if I´m right. There was just nothing that seems to refute what I said. Which in my world makes it a valid point. Nothing more, nothing less.


That's because you said nothing. You have stated something that can be done in the game. You have never explained to us why that would be unfair, it's just obvious in your head because you don't like it.

Look, I don't think blink is fair, because no other races can do it. Refute that!

It was about the map, not the ability that buildings are able to fly. Learn to read first, then we can talk about the actual topic.


You do realize that it's the same thing, right?

You do realize that it´s not?


...You don't play in a vacuum, you play on maps. Map features are part of what races can do (cf thor drops on Lost Temple). When you analyze bel'shir vestige, one part of the analysis is "terran can float his buildings to certain parts of the map where you can't hit them with anything but air units". Having a problem with that is no different to having a problem with a terran ability: you still need to provide an explanation as to why it's unfair, otherwise it's just 'I don't like it' (which is what you're doing right now).

I have provided an explanation. ToD had units to kill Happy, but Happy used the map to hide the units. Even if ToD had an army of 200 left (but no air units), he could not have killed Happy.

So you consider that fair?
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
November 16 2013 19:18 GMT
#1543
THE FOREIGNER HOPE!!
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 16 2013 19:18 GMT
#1544
On November 17 2013 04:14 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:11 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:04 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:02 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:57 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:44 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:39 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:37 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:35 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:33 iSunrise wrote:
[quote]
Dude, that was just an example when playing 1 vs. 1. Not the normal CS mode where you need to defuse the bomb. If you don´t like that example, use Quake deathmatch or something else. My point still stands.


One would have thought that being the SINGLE person in the whole thread who has a problem with flying buildings, you would after some time start to realize that you're on a mute point. But no. I admire your persistence.

It's not the flying buildings, IT'S THE MAP!

Looks like I have a perfectly valid point, otherwise you guys wouldn´t have given up to argue against it.


Oh, the whole "you're arguing with me so I'm right"-thing again. It doesn't work like that tt

It´s not about if I´m right. There was just nothing that seems to refute what I said. Which in my world makes it a valid point. Nothing more, nothing less.


That's because you said nothing. You have stated something that can be done in the game. You have never explained to us why that would be unfair, it's just obvious in your head because you don't like it.

Look, I don't think blink is fair, because no other races can do it. Refute that!

It was about the map, not the ability that buildings are able to fly. Learn to read first, then we can talk about the actual topic.


Doesn't pretty much all maps have spots where you can fly stuff to get a breather?

Yes, there are some. Sadly.


Should just have one map that is a big flat square without any terrain and shit. And maybe cut it down to one race with only one melee unit. Boring, but fair.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 16 2013 19:18 GMT
#1545
It's not over yet! But very hard for jjakji :o

rebuilding ghost academy at same place haha
jjakji fan
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 16 2013 19:18 GMT
#1546
if tod wins i give up
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 19:25:11
November 16 2013 19:18 GMT
#1547
I like jjakji's spot! He survived and there's plenty of time for tod to go full foreigner now!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 16 2013 19:18 GMT
#1548
On November 17 2013 04:18 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:14 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:11 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:04 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:02 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:57 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:44 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:39 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:37 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:35 Nebuchad wrote:
[quote]

One would have thought that being the SINGLE person in the whole thread who has a problem with flying buildings, you would after some time start to realize that you're on a mute point. But no. I admire your persistence.

It's not the flying buildings, IT'S THE MAP!

Looks like I have a perfectly valid point, otherwise you guys wouldn´t have given up to argue against it.


Oh, the whole "you're arguing with me so I'm right"-thing again. It doesn't work like that tt

It´s not about if I´m right. There was just nothing that seems to refute what I said. Which in my world makes it a valid point. Nothing more, nothing less.


That's because you said nothing. You have stated something that can be done in the game. You have never explained to us why that would be unfair, it's just obvious in your head because you don't like it.

Look, I don't think blink is fair, because no other races can do it. Refute that!

It was about the map, not the ability that buildings are able to fly. Learn to read first, then we can talk about the actual topic.


Doesn't pretty much all maps have spots where you can fly stuff to get a breather?

Yes, there are some. Sadly.


Should just have one map that is a big flat square without any terrain and shit. And maybe cut it down to one race with only one melee unit. Boring, but fair.

FINAL DESTINATION.
jjakji fan
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24603 Posts
November 16 2013 19:18 GMT
#1549
On November 17 2013 04:17 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:14 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:11 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:08 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:04 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:02 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:57 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:44 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:39 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:37 TheDwf wrote:
[quote]
It's not the flying buildings, IT'S THE MAP!

Looks like I have a perfectly valid point, otherwise you guys wouldn´t have given up to argue against it.


Oh, the whole "you're arguing with me so I'm right"-thing again. It doesn't work like that tt

It´s not about if I´m right. There was just nothing that seems to refute what I said. Which in my world makes it a valid point. Nothing more, nothing less.


That's because you said nothing. You have stated something that can be done in the game. You have never explained to us why that would be unfair, it's just obvious in your head because you don't like it.

Look, I don't think blink is fair, because no other races can do it. Refute that!

It was about the map, not the ability that buildings are able to fly. Learn to read first, then we can talk about the actual topic.


You do realize that it's the same thing, right?

You do realize that it´s not?


...You don't play in a vacuum, you play on maps. Map features are part of what races can do (cf thor drops on Lost Temple). When you analyze bel'shir vestige, one part of the analysis is "terran can float his buildings to certain parts of the map where you can't hit them with anything but air units". Having a problem with that is no different to having a problem with a terran ability: you still need to provide an explanation as to why it's unfair, otherwise it's just 'I don't like it' (which is what you're doing right now).

I have provided an explanation. ToD had units to kill Happy, but Happy used the map to hide the units. Even if ToD had an army of 200 left (but no air), he could not have killed Happy.

So you consider that fair?


In sc2 races are different and fairness can't be measured like that in a game where the races are assymetrical to one another.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
November 16 2013 19:18 GMT
#1550
Jjakji underestimated ToD too much in this game, but ToD can still throw.
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
November 16 2013 19:19 GMT
#1551
Haha, stephano - We talking about the game? Ok, so say something, gold.. :D
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
November 16 2013 19:19 GMT
#1552
One thing I learned after watching Happy vs ToD is to not underrestimate how much ToD can throw away games.
리노크 👑
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 16 2013 19:19 GMT
#1553
uh oh STORMMMMM on the mules?

7 SCVs not bad for jj
jjakji fan
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 16 2013 19:20 GMT
#1554
On November 17 2013 04:17 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:14 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:11 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:08 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:04 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:02 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:57 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:44 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:39 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:37 TheDwf wrote:
[quote]
It's not the flying buildings, IT'S THE MAP!

Looks like I have a perfectly valid point, otherwise you guys wouldn´t have given up to argue against it.


Oh, the whole "you're arguing with me so I'm right"-thing again. It doesn't work like that tt

It´s not about if I´m right. There was just nothing that seems to refute what I said. Which in my world makes it a valid point. Nothing more, nothing less.


That's because you said nothing. You have stated something that can be done in the game. You have never explained to us why that would be unfair, it's just obvious in your head because you don't like it.

Look, I don't think blink is fair, because no other races can do it. Refute that!

It was about the map, not the ability that buildings are able to fly. Learn to read first, then we can talk about the actual topic.


You do realize that it's the same thing, right?

You do realize that it´s not?


...You don't play in a vacuum, you play on maps. Map features are part of what races can do (cf thor drops on Lost Temple). When you analyze bel'shir vestige, one part of the analysis is "terran can float his buildings to certain parts of the map where you can't hit them with anything but air units". Having a problem with that is no different to having a problem with a terran ability: you still need to provide an explanation as to why it's unfair, otherwise it's just 'I don't like it' (which is what you're doing right now).

I have provided an explanation. ToD had units to kill Happy, but Happy used the map to hide the units. Even if ToD had an army of 200 left (but no air), he could not have killed Happy.

So you consider that fair?

Imaginary situation:

ToD has no Nexus left, 45 minerals, 40 Probes and 50 Zealots.
Happy has one flying rax and one Banshee left.

Discuss the fairness of the situation.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 16 2013 19:20 GMT
#1555
Pylons plz.
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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 16 2013 19:20 GMT
#1556
Tod supply blocked for so long...
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 16 2013 19:21 GMT
#1557
no detection!!! :D :D :D
jjakji fan
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 16 2013 19:21 GMT
#1558
STORRRMMMMMMMMMMMMM

ToD :O

jjakji still can win it for sure!
jjakji fan
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
November 16 2013 19:21 GMT
#1559
Oh Tod...
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
November 16 2013 19:22 GMT
#1560
Tod.... fuck my life, come on....
It appears I have been chosen.
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