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On November 17 2013 04:02 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 03:57 iSunrise wrote:On November 17 2013 03:44 Zealously wrote:On November 17 2013 03:39 iSunrise wrote:On November 17 2013 03:37 TheDwf wrote:On November 17 2013 03:35 Nebuchad wrote:On November 17 2013 03:33 iSunrise wrote:On November 17 2013 03:31 Prog wrote:On November 17 2013 03:28 iSunrise wrote:On November 17 2013 03:21 Zarahtra wrote:
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You are making it sound like Happy did something wrong on that tie game. ToD had options to actually win in that situation but didn't use it, he played bad, so it's frustrating to me that you make it sound that way. Happy played to win. The rules of the game are set before the game, fair has little to do with it. Anything can be made sound unfair with your logic, and building lifting would certainly go very very very low on my list of that whinefest. It´s actually you who wants to read it like that. ToD just wasn´t prepared to compete at that "low" level of mindgames. If you know you lost, all you can do is try to exploit something, so you actually could turn it around. So he used the map to his advantage. There was nothing bad about how ToD played until this moment, ToD just wasn´t prepared for something like that, which you could clearly see when you just went in to kill the buildings. It´s like the example I gave with CS. If your enemy shots at you and you only have 2% health left, all you can do is run and hide or flat-out die. Now, a really "intelligent?" player would try to hide forever to not be caught. And if the other player doesn´t find him (he cannot kill him, can he?), it suddenly is a tie? That would be a first. I have never ever seen such a thing happen, because every pro player in CS would be ashamed of himself, and to good reason. You never played CS, did you? If you just hide you lose because either you cannot stop the terrorists from getting the bomb ready, or you yourself cannot deploy the bomb. And still sometimes you need to hide to safe your weapon for the next round. Hence: Terrible example. Dude, that was just an example when playing 1 vs. 1. Not the normal CS mode where you need to defuse the bomb. If you don´t like that example, use Quake deathmatch or something else. My point still stands. One would have thought that being the SINGLE person in the whole thread who has a problem with flying buildings, you would after some time start to realize that you're on a mute point. But no. I admire your persistence. It's not the flying buildings, IT'S THE MAP! Looks like I have a perfectly valid point, otherwise you guys wouldn´t have given up to argue against it.  Oh, the whole "you're arguing with me so I'm right"-thing again. It doesn't work like that tt It´s not about if I´m right. There was just nothing that seems to refute what I said. Which in my world makes it a valid point. Nothing more, nothing less. That's because you said nothing. You have stated something that can be done in the game. You have never explained to us why that would be unfair, it's just obvious in your head because you don't like it. Look, I don't think blink is fair, because no other races can do it. Refute that!
It was about the map, not the ability that buildings are able to fly. Learn to read first, then we can talk about the actual topic.
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On November 17 2013 04:01 bourne117 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 04:00 TheDwf wrote:On November 17 2013 03:59 bourne117 wrote:
Jjacki might be back guys but he hasn't even advanced from his group yet and lost to Happy. Taeja will smack him around if they play if Jjacki can't even beat Happy. It doesn't work like that. Oh yeah? Why not? Taeja is a world class terran that has very good TvT. Jjacki might be coming back but if he loses to happy why on earth would he be a favorite over Taeja? And don't you dare say because summer is over.
Because Happy plays defensive mech and Taeja plays bio (or sometimes offensive mech). Playing against those is very hard to compare, so a single "vT- skill" does´nt exist in that regard and thus the result against Happy can´t be used that well in a matchup against Taeja.
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On November 17 2013 04:00 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 03:59 bourne117 wrote:
Jjacki might be back guys but he hasn't even advanced from his group yet and lost to Happy. Taeja will smack him around if they play if Jjacki can't even beat Happy. Nah I think jjakji wins vs Happy if they face again. While it's his worst mu, he's actually quite decent in TvT. Played a close series (except game 4) vs TvT master Maru and won 2-1 vs Innovation last GSL.
So he lost a map to a slightly slumping Innovation in his worst match up. Taeja makes Innovation his bitch in TvT. There is no way Taeja is not a favorite against jjacki. He is a better terran overall and he is good in the MU while for jjacki its his weakest MU
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On November 17 2013 04:04 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 04:01 bourne117 wrote:On November 17 2013 04:00 TheDwf wrote:On November 17 2013 03:59 bourne117 wrote:
Jjacki might be back guys but he hasn't even advanced from his group yet and lost to Happy. Taeja will smack him around if they play if Jjacki can't even beat Happy. It doesn't work like that. Oh yeah? Why not? Taeja is a world class terran that has very good TvT. Jjacki might be coming back but if he loses to happy why on earth would he be a favorite over Taeja? And don't you dare say because summer is over. Because Happy plays defensive mech and Taeja plays bio (or sometimes offensive mech). Playing against those is very hard to compare, so a single "vT- skill" does´nt exist in that regard and thus the result against Happy can´t be used that well in a matchup against Taeja.
Fair enough that makes sense. Though still Taeja is the favorite without a doubt against him even if my reasoning about Happy was off.
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On November 17 2013 04:04 bourne117 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 04:00 DJHelium wrote:On November 17 2013 03:59 bourne117 wrote:
Jjacki might be back guys but he hasn't even advanced from his group yet and lost to Happy. Taeja will smack him around if they play if Jjacki can't even beat Happy. Nah I think jjakji wins vs Happy if they face again. While it's his worst mu, he's actually quite decent in TvT. Played a close series (except game 4) vs TvT master Maru and won 2-1 vs Innovation last GSL. So he lost a map to a slightly slumping Innovation in his worst match up. Taeja makes Innovation his bitch in TvT. There is no way Taeja is not a favorite against jjacki. He is a better terran overall and he is good in the MU while for jjacki its his weakest MU
Well I blindly believe in jjakji, so I'm way to subjective. I see him as the best player at this tournament atm, together with Taeja, Hero, HyuN and Symbol.
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Why is SKT T1 Rain there?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
I want Dayshi to win Group B.
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lol 'hey i really love my bicycle #hsc" wat
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Oh happy :D, such an honest guy.
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On November 17 2013 04:06 Wintex wrote:Why is SKT T1 Rain there?
Jjakji earned the right to wear Rain's head on his shirt like a badge after the GSL placement matches
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On November 17 2013 04:06 Wintex wrote:Why is SKT T1 Rain there?
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Bison
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gogo jjakji! Jung JiHoon Fighting!!!
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On November 17 2013 04:05 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 04:04 bourne117 wrote:On November 17 2013 04:00 DJHelium wrote:On November 17 2013 03:59 bourne117 wrote:
Jjacki might be back guys but he hasn't even advanced from his group yet and lost to Happy. Taeja will smack him around if they play if Jjacki can't even beat Happy. Nah I think jjakji wins vs Happy if they face again. While it's his worst mu, he's actually quite decent in TvT. Played a close series (except game 4) vs TvT master Maru and won 2-1 vs Innovation last GSL. So he lost a map to a slightly slumping Innovation in his worst match up. Taeja makes Innovation his bitch in TvT. There is no way Taeja is not a favorite against jjacki. He is a better terran overall and he is good in the MU while for jjacki its his weakest MU Well I blindly believe in jjakji, so I'm way to subjective. I see him as the best player at this tournament atm, together with Taeja, Hero, HyuN and Symbol.
Lol and I blindly believe in Taeja so there is that. I do think jjacki is the second best easily and the only player he will lose to is Taeja. I think Taeja is slightly better and is much better in TvT so I don't see Taeja losing to him.
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On November 17 2013 04:04 iSunrise wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 04:02 Nebuchad wrote:On November 17 2013 03:57 iSunrise wrote:On November 17 2013 03:44 Zealously wrote:On November 17 2013 03:39 iSunrise wrote:On November 17 2013 03:37 TheDwf wrote:On November 17 2013 03:35 Nebuchad wrote:On November 17 2013 03:33 iSunrise wrote:On November 17 2013 03:31 Prog wrote:On November 17 2013 03:28 iSunrise wrote:
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It´s actually you who wants to read it like that. ToD just wasn´t prepared to compete at that "low" level of mindgames. If you know you lost, all you can do is try to exploit something, so you actually could turn it around. So he used the map to his advantage. There was nothing bad about how ToD played until this moment, ToD just wasn´t prepared for something like that, which you could clearly see when you just went in to kill the buildings.
It´s like the example I gave with CS.
If your enemy shots at you and you only have 2% health left, all you can do is run and hide or flat-out die. Now, a really "intelligent?" player would try to hide forever to not be caught. And if the other player doesn´t find him (he cannot kill him, can he?), it suddenly is a tie? That would be a first. I have never ever seen such a thing happen, because every pro player in CS would be ashamed of himself, and to good reason. You never played CS, did you? If you just hide you lose because either you cannot stop the terrorists from getting the bomb ready, or you yourself cannot deploy the bomb. And still sometimes you need to hide to safe your weapon for the next round. Hence: Terrible example. Dude, that was just an example when playing 1 vs. 1. Not the normal CS mode where you need to defuse the bomb. If you don´t like that example, use Quake deathmatch or something else. My point still stands. One would have thought that being the SINGLE person in the whole thread who has a problem with flying buildings, you would after some time start to realize that you're on a mute point. But no. I admire your persistence. It's not the flying buildings, IT'S THE MAP! Looks like I have a perfectly valid point, otherwise you guys wouldn´t have given up to argue against it. Oh, the whole "you're arguing with me so I'm right"-thing again. It doesn't work like that tt It´s not about if I´m right. There was just nothing that seems to refute what I said. Which in my world makes it a valid point. Nothing more, nothing less. That's because you said nothing. You have stated something that can be done in the game. You have never explained to us why that would be unfair, it's just obvious in your head because you don't like it. Look, I don't think blink is fair, because no other races can do it. Refute that! It was about the map, not the ability that buildings are able to fly. Learn to read first, then we can talk about the actual topic.
You do realize that it's the same thing, right?
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On November 17 2013 04:08 bourne117 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 04:05 DJHelium wrote:On November 17 2013 04:04 bourne117 wrote:On November 17 2013 04:00 DJHelium wrote:On November 17 2013 03:59 bourne117 wrote:
Jjacki might be back guys but he hasn't even advanced from his group yet and lost to Happy. Taeja will smack him around if they play if Jjacki can't even beat Happy. Nah I think jjakji wins vs Happy if they face again. While it's his worst mu, he's actually quite decent in TvT. Played a close series (except game 4) vs TvT master Maru and won 2-1 vs Innovation last GSL. So he lost a map to a slightly slumping Innovation in his worst match up. Taeja makes Innovation his bitch in TvT. There is no way Taeja is not a favorite against jjacki. He is a better terran overall and he is good in the MU while for jjacki its his weakest MU Well I blindly believe in jjakji, so I'm way to subjective. I see him as the best player at this tournament atm, together with Taeja, Hero, HyuN and Symbol. Lol and I blindly believe in Taeja so there is that. I do think jjacki is the second best easily and the only player he will lose to is Taeja. I think Taeja is slightly better and is much better in TvT so I don't see Taeja losing to him.
Hope they face off and we both can cheer for our favourite!
Now GOGO JJAKJI CRUSH FACE :D
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As long as someone knocks out Taeja, Leenock will win this tournament
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The reaper is not Jim Raynor, he is Jim Hopper.
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On November 17 2013 04:09 DrPandaPhD wrote:
As long as someone knocks out Taeja, Leenock will win this tournament
So Hero must win in order for Leenock to win is my guess.
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