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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
November 16 2013 19:11 GMT
#1521
On November 17 2013 04:10 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:09 DrPandaPhD wrote:
As long as someone knocks out Taeja, Leenock will win this tournament


So Hero must win in order for Leenock to win is my guess.

Leenock beating HerO in a semifinals again would please me.
The Bomber boy
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 19:13:28
November 16 2013 19:11 GMT
#1522
On November 17 2013 04:08 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:04 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:02 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:57 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:44 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:39 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:37 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:35 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:33 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:31 Prog wrote:
[quote]

You never played CS, did you? If you just hide you lose because either you cannot stop the terrorists from getting the bomb ready, or you yourself cannot deploy the bomb. And still sometimes you need to hide to safe your weapon for the next round. Hence: Terrible example.

Dude, that was just an example when playing 1 vs. 1. Not the normal CS mode where you need to defuse the bomb. If you don´t like that example, use Quake deathmatch or something else. My point still stands.


One would have thought that being the SINGLE person in the whole thread who has a problem with flying buildings, you would after some time start to realize that you're on a mute point. But no. I admire your persistence.

It's not the flying buildings, IT'S THE MAP!

Looks like I have a perfectly valid point, otherwise you guys wouldn´t have given up to argue against it.


Oh, the whole "you're arguing with me so I'm right"-thing again. It doesn't work like that tt

It´s not about if I´m right. There was just nothing that seems to refute what I said. Which in my world makes it a valid point. Nothing more, nothing less.


That's because you said nothing. You have stated something that can be done in the game. You have never explained to us why that would be unfair, it's just obvious in your head because you don't like it.

Look, I don't think blink is fair, because no other races can do it. Refute that!

It was about the map, not the ability that buildings are able to fly. Learn to read first, then we can talk about the actual topic.


You do realize that it's the same thing, right?

You do realize that it´s not? Your example points to abilities of units. Mine points to the maps architecture, which made it possible to tie game, while ToD still had units to kill Happy. In what world is that the same thing?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
November 16 2013 19:11 GMT
#1523
Stephano's cast is hilarious
TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 19:11:38
November 16 2013 19:11 GMT
#1524
Would be fun if Tod won. I almost always cheer for koreans, because I love high quality SC2 games, but don't like jjakji very much and Tod is having a blast in this tournament, so it would be cool to see him advance.
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
November 16 2013 19:11 GMT
#1525
On November 17 2013 04:10 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:09 DrPandaPhD wrote:
As long as someone knocks out Taeja, Leenock will win this tournament


So Hero must win in order for Leenock to win is my guess.

Honestly I don't think Hero can beat Taeja. I know last year Hero crushed him twice but back then Taeja TvP was ATROCIOUSLY bad. Now Taeja is a monster in TvP.
QO Feasting
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 16 2013 19:11 GMT
#1526
On November 17 2013 04:04 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:02 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:57 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:44 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:39 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:37 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:35 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:33 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:31 Prog wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:28 iSunrise wrote:
[quote]
It´s actually you who wants to read it like that. ToD just wasn´t prepared to compete at that "low" level of mindgames. If you know you lost, all you can do is try to exploit something, so you actually could turn it around. So he used the map to his advantage. There was nothing bad about how ToD played until this moment, ToD just wasn´t prepared for something like that, which you could clearly see when you just went in to kill the buildings.

It´s like the example I gave with CS.

If your enemy shots at you and you only have 2% health left, all you can do is run and hide or flat-out die. Now, a really "intelligent?" player would try to hide forever to not be caught. And if the other player doesn´t find him (he cannot kill him, can he?), it suddenly is a tie? That would be a first. I have never ever seen such a thing happen, because every pro player in CS would be ashamed of himself, and to good reason.


You never played CS, did you? If you just hide you lose because either you cannot stop the terrorists from getting the bomb ready, or you yourself cannot deploy the bomb. And still sometimes you need to hide to safe your weapon for the next round. Hence: Terrible example.

Dude, that was just an example when playing 1 vs. 1. Not the normal CS mode where you need to defuse the bomb. If you don´t like that example, use Quake deathmatch or something else. My point still stands.


One would have thought that being the SINGLE person in the whole thread who has a problem with flying buildings, you would after some time start to realize that you're on a mute point. But no. I admire your persistence.

It's not the flying buildings, IT'S THE MAP!

Looks like I have a perfectly valid point, otherwise you guys wouldn´t have given up to argue against it.


Oh, the whole "you're arguing with me so I'm right"-thing again. It doesn't work like that tt

It´s not about if I´m right. There was just nothing that seems to refute what I said. Which in my world makes it a valid point. Nothing more, nothing less.


That's because you said nothing. You have stated something that can be done in the game. You have never explained to us why that would be unfair, it's just obvious in your head because you don't like it.

Look, I don't think blink is fair, because no other races can do it. Refute that!

It was about the map, not the ability that buildings are able to fly. Learn to read first, then we can talk about the actual topic.


Doesn't pretty much all maps have spots where you can fly stuff to get a breather?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
manicshock
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada741 Posts
November 16 2013 19:12 GMT
#1527
Socke's macro fell so hard. 1600/1400 bank
Never argue with an idiot. They will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
November 16 2013 19:12 GMT
#1528
socke played disgusting
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 16 2013 19:13 GMT
#1529
Yep, that was depressing to watch.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 16 2013 19:13 GMT
#1530
Nice defense by ToD and those upgrades T_T
jjakji fan
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12485 Posts
November 16 2013 19:14 GMT
#1531
On November 17 2013 04:11 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:08 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:04 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:02 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:57 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:44 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:39 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:37 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:35 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:33 iSunrise wrote:
[quote]
Dude, that was just an example when playing 1 vs. 1. Not the normal CS mode where you need to defuse the bomb. If you don´t like that example, use Quake deathmatch or something else. My point still stands.


One would have thought that being the SINGLE person in the whole thread who has a problem with flying buildings, you would after some time start to realize that you're on a mute point. But no. I admire your persistence.

It's not the flying buildings, IT'S THE MAP!

Looks like I have a perfectly valid point, otherwise you guys wouldn´t have given up to argue against it.


Oh, the whole "you're arguing with me so I'm right"-thing again. It doesn't work like that tt

It´s not about if I´m right. There was just nothing that seems to refute what I said. Which in my world makes it a valid point. Nothing more, nothing less.


That's because you said nothing. You have stated something that can be done in the game. You have never explained to us why that would be unfair, it's just obvious in your head because you don't like it.

Look, I don't think blink is fair, because no other races can do it. Refute that!

It was about the map, not the ability that buildings are able to fly. Learn to read first, then we can talk about the actual topic.


You do realize that it's the same thing, right?

You do realize that it´s not?


...You don't play in a vacuum, you play on maps. Map features are part of what races can do (cf thor drops on Lost Temple). When you analyze bel'shir vestige, one part of the analysis is "terran can float his buildings to certain parts of the map where you can't hit them with anything but air units". Having a problem with that is no different to having a problem with a terran ability: you still need to provide an explanation as to why it's unfair, otherwise it's just 'I don't like it' (which is what you're doing right now).
No will to live, no wish to die
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
November 16 2013 19:14 GMT
#1532
On November 17 2013 04:11 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:04 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:02 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:57 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:44 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:39 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:37 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:35 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:33 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:31 Prog wrote:
[quote]

You never played CS, did you? If you just hide you lose because either you cannot stop the terrorists from getting the bomb ready, or you yourself cannot deploy the bomb. And still sometimes you need to hide to safe your weapon for the next round. Hence: Terrible example.

Dude, that was just an example when playing 1 vs. 1. Not the normal CS mode where you need to defuse the bomb. If you don´t like that example, use Quake deathmatch or something else. My point still stands.


One would have thought that being the SINGLE person in the whole thread who has a problem with flying buildings, you would after some time start to realize that you're on a mute point. But no. I admire your persistence.

It's not the flying buildings, IT'S THE MAP!

Looks like I have a perfectly valid point, otherwise you guys wouldn´t have given up to argue against it.


Oh, the whole "you're arguing with me so I'm right"-thing again. It doesn't work like that tt

It´s not about if I´m right. There was just nothing that seems to refute what I said. Which in my world makes it a valid point. Nothing more, nothing less.


That's because you said nothing. You have stated something that can be done in the game. You have never explained to us why that would be unfair, it's just obvious in your head because you don't like it.

Look, I don't think blink is fair, because no other races can do it. Refute that!

It was about the map, not the ability that buildings are able to fly. Learn to read first, then we can talk about the actual topic.


Doesn't pretty much all maps have spots where you can fly stuff to get a breather?

Yes, there are some. Sadly.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 16 2013 19:15 GMT
#1533
On November 17 2013 04:14 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:11 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:08 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:04 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:02 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:57 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:44 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:39 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:37 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:35 Nebuchad wrote:
[quote]

One would have thought that being the SINGLE person in the whole thread who has a problem with flying buildings, you would after some time start to realize that you're on a mute point. But no. I admire your persistence.

It's not the flying buildings, IT'S THE MAP!

Looks like I have a perfectly valid point, otherwise you guys wouldn´t have given up to argue against it.


Oh, the whole "you're arguing with me so I'm right"-thing again. It doesn't work like that tt

It´s not about if I´m right. There was just nothing that seems to refute what I said. Which in my world makes it a valid point. Nothing more, nothing less.


That's because you said nothing. You have stated something that can be done in the game. You have never explained to us why that would be unfair, it's just obvious in your head because you don't like it.

Look, I don't think blink is fair, because no other races can do it. Refute that!

It was about the map, not the ability that buildings are able to fly. Learn to read first, then we can talk about the actual topic.


You do realize that it's the same thing, right?

You do realize that it´s not?


...You don't play in a vacuum, you play on maps. Map features are part of what races can do (cf thor drops on Lost Temple). When you analyze bel'shir vestige, one part of the analysis is "terran can float his buildings to certain parts of the map where you can't hit them with anything but air units". Having a problem with that is no different to having a problem with a terran ability: you still need to provide an explanation as to why it's unfair, otherwise it's just 'I don't like it' (which is what you're doing right now).

Achievement unlocked: valiant arguer.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
November 16 2013 19:15 GMT
#1534
Harstem so romantic, would date
리노크 👑
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
November 16 2013 19:15 GMT
#1535
Stephano/Harmstem, so gay hahahahahaha
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 16 2013 19:16 GMT
#1536
jjakji be careful!
jjakji fan
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 16 2013 19:16 GMT
#1537
ToD's army wasn't all together at the same time so that first push wasn't bad but it's getting bad now :O
jjakji fan
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 16 2013 19:17 GMT
#1538
Tod is a God.
Moderator
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
November 16 2013 19:17 GMT
#1539
lololol, Stephano + Harstrem fit well together..
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
November 16 2013 19:17 GMT
#1540
Wow, jjakji seems so confused. Very wp by ToD this game!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
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