Also, while I haven't seen the games I really don't think soulkeys zvt is as good as other zergs. Solar put up more of a fight vs innovation then sk ever has for example
So I just count TvZ in this OSL is 17-5(77.2%) for maps. Do not wanna say balance issue but its just ridiculous compared to PvT or PvZ. And actually if I remember right Soulkey never won against any Terran after the final with Innovation.
Also, while I haven't seen the games I really don't think soulkeys zvt is as good as other zergs. Solar put up more of a fight vs innovation then sk ever has for example
Well... Jaedong is winning this poll, that's for sure.
On August 06 2013 20:13 Decendos wrote: tvz makes me sad
Sadly me too. Can't watch Soulkey's ZvT. He is playing so good, but always loosing.
The only other person I have ever seen parade push that well and keep microing for 20 minutes straight is Innovation, against any other Terran he would have won most likely.
Uhm Flash? and it's not that difficult offcreep.
I don't think flash would have won that game, constantly microing like that is harder than it looks, difficult for the terran as well as the zerg
On August 06 2013 20:21 BabyRomatic wrote: wtf, I dont want to watch zvt anymore
nerf the widow mine!
Yeah lets also nerf MSC and oracle so we can get back to something that is as close to wol as humanly possible. They already fucked pvt by overnerfing hellbats, lets not do the same to tvz.
On August 06 2013 20:12 LittleRedBoy wrote: That was some great widow mine micro by Supernova.
On a side note, to say great widow mine micro is okay, but to say great swarm host micro is not okay. I don't get it.
I think they are both kinda ridiculous statements. Positioning the two units is a measure of skill though, they both still serve a purpose.
Well, it has been proven trough experimentation that you can force a widow mine to not fire or to fire on a specific target, and you can burrow and unburrow them to prevent too many from firing at once if they send it a lot of units. So, objectively speaking I think mines can have more involving micro, to them, not only positioning, as where with SH the only thing you can do is position them, you can't do any fancy micro with the locust or the SH.
On August 06 2013 20:18 Sokrates wrote: I m pretty sure there will be a zerg buff soon. Or a terra/toss nerf .
I hope Blizzard realizes we have Broodwar like balance aka T>Z>P>T . Otherwise we will get one race buffed on a monthly basis and nothing will change on the matchup balance. But luckily we have some only works in this matchup units, that can be adjusted.
On August 06 2013 20:12 LittleRedBoy wrote: That was some great widow mine micro by Supernova.
On a side note, to say great widow mine micro is okay, but to say great swarm host micro is not okay. I don't get it.
I think they are both kinda ridiculous statements. Positioning the two units is a measure of skill though, they both still serve a purpose.
Well, it has been proven trough experimentation that you can force a widow mine to not fire or to fire on a specific target, and you can burrow and unburrow them to prevent too many from firing at once if they send it a lot of units. So, objectively speaking I think mines can have more involving micro, to them, not only positioning, as where with SH the only thing you can do is position them, you can't do any fancy micro with the locust or the SH.
On August 06 2013 20:22 Taro134 wrote: So I just count TvZ in this OSL is 17-5(77.2%) for maps. Do not wanna say balance issue but its just ridiculous compared to PvT or PvZ. And actually if I remember right Soulkey never won against any Terran after the final with Innovation.
He only wont that final with sheer ballsy all-ins and incredible mental fortitude; only the last game did he play a macro game and his win was partly thanks to Innovation giving up 3 full medivacs for free.
I don't want to cry imbalance but I don't think we can really say Zergs are doing well at the moment.