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Baroninthetree
United States473 Posts
On June 27 2013 06:09 PerSe wrote: Pretty sure someone has actually counted and said the numbers are roughly the same. Im pretty sure it's not. Just look at the code B attendants. The number are highly favor in kespa. About 2 to 3 times more. I think the counting u mentioned includes those semi-pro players listed in ESF team which doesn't even attend code B matches. | ||
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negativedge
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1702 Posts
On June 27 2013 08:15 negativedge wrote: why didn't any of the azubu players try? Ganzi did Top probably sick of losing in qualifers for the 20tj time And sleep got through | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37044 Posts
Interviews are up! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418856 | ||
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Evil_Sheep
Canada902 Posts
On June 27 2013 08:59 bittman wrote: Jjakji and Seed! =D!!! If only Sniper hadn't failed we could've had the 3 "forgotten champions" reunited in GSL. Oh well, it will still be awesome to see those two back in code A! | ||
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Aserrin
Uruguay231 Posts
Really happy for Seed and Jjjjjajjjjji, also glad for Sniper not making it, heh. | ||
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edgeOut
United States945 Posts
On June 27 2013 07:36 CuSToM wrote: The inclusion of Kespa players has ruined Starcraft for me. I enjoy watching their big guns like Bogus and Flash, but there are way too many mid tier players that I don't know or care about. GSL and GSTL was the only tournament and event that I followed religiously. I kept up with all the teams, knew who to look out for in the qualifiers from watching GSTL and was emotionally invested in everything from Code S down to Code B. Now it's muddled with guys like Mamuri and Pigbaby, guys I have never heard about and will never care about. It has nothing to do with Kespa vs. ESF for me, cause like I said I enjoy watching their star players and Rain's games from last fall motivated me to start playing again. Code S groups like Maru, soO, sOs and Effort mean nothing to me and I have no reason to stay up late to watch it, or pay a subscription fee to watch a vod. Knew this would happen. Once KeSPA players started to dominate, there will be less total number of fans, cause old sc2 fans will stop follow the scene when their favorite players lose all the time, and there are not many new fans coming in because this is actually an old game already. Old BW fans won't switch much, cause they are already old, have a life, and not fond of SC2 anyway. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On June 27 2013 13:15 edgeOut wrote: Knew this would happen. Once KeSPA players started to dominate, there will be less total number of fans, cause old sc2 fans will stop follow the scene when their favorite players lose all the time, and there are not many new fans coming in because this is actually an old game already. Old BW fans won't switch much, cause they are already old, have a life, and not fond of SC2 anyway. And then there will be the new fans, who don't care about Kespa or Esf, just SC2. I'll probably still be an LR OP by then lol | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On June 27 2013 13:15 edgeOut wrote: Knew this would happen. Once KeSPA players started to dominate, there will be less total number of fans, cause old sc2 fans will stop follow the scene when their favorite players lose all the time, and there are not many new fans coming in because this is actually an old game already. Old BW fans won't switch much, cause they are already old, have a life, and not fond of SC2 anyway. I'm pretty sure people like him are an extreme minority, our viewer numbers are bigger than ever before. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12363 Posts
On June 27 2013 07:36 CuSToM wrote: The inclusion of Kespa players has ruined Starcraft for me. I enjoy watching their big guns like Bogus and Flash, but there are way too many mid tier players that I don't know or care about. I used to not know them. Then I took five minutes of my time to actually go look at some proleague and matches, and now I know them. See how hard it is? Just because they're new to you doesn't mean you're forced to stay behind. About Azubu, San and Top are playing in the Taiwan thing, there has got to be date conflicts. Ganzi tried, Symbol and Supernova are in, Sleep qualified... I don't know where BBoong is though. | ||
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patchpotato
22 Posts
On June 27 2013 07:36 CuSToM wrote: It has nothing to do with Kespa vs. ESF for me, cause like I said I enjoy watching their star players and Rain's games from last fall motivated me to start playing again. Code S groups like Maru, soO, sOs and Effort mean nothing to me and I have no reason to stay up late to watch it, or pay a subscription fee to watch a vod. Proleague VODs are freely available on youtube (ESportsTV), in English and organized by playlist. It's actually easier to follow storylines for Kespa players because Proleague matches happen so frequently. If you like watching Rain, Flash, and Innovation, they play every week in Proleague as team aces and sometimes get sniped by those mid tier players. It's probably my favorite league to watch outside of GSL/OSL. | ||
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Toverkol
Netherlands16 Posts
On June 27 2013 13:15 edgeOut wrote: Knew this would happen. Once KeSPA players started to dominate, there will be less total number of fans, cause old sc2 fans will stop follow the scene when their favorite players lose all the time, and there are not many new fans coming in because this is actually an old game already. Old BW fans won't switch much, cause they are already old, have a life, and not fond of SC2 anyway. Old BW fan (with a life) is fond of it that his favorite Zero finally made it in, took him a while, will sure be watching! | ||
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mYiBalloon
Korea (South)18 Posts
 accidentally write post in TL o.O i find like 30 min for button to delete XD but there is no deleting post in TL :Obtw thx for cheering :D | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5599 Posts
On June 28 2013 05:05 StarTale_Balloon wrote: Congratulations to the advancement, man! | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On June 27 2013 13:15 edgeOut wrote: Knew this would happen. Once KeSPA players started to dominate, there will be less total number of fans, cause old sc2 fans will stop follow the scene when their favorite players lose all the time, and there are not many new fans coming in because this is actually an old game already. Old BW fans won't switch much, cause they are already old, have a life, and not fond of SC2 anyway. Parting, MVP, and Life are still the ones winning everything though.... Bomber still being Bomber MC and MMA ruling foreign scene Lots of ESF representation. What's missing is foreigner presence and foreigner hope. Because when players like MKP, Seed, Maru are the mid level players of the world--what hope does WhiteRa, Dimaga, etc... have? And when so few Koreans flew overseas, it was a treat. Now Europe has to beat MVP--and despite him being in such a bad shape, he still wrecks. Stephano retires, Greg retires, Naniwa loses consistency, Huk stops producing. We now lean on TLO? | ||
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
On June 28 2013 06:36 Thieving Magpie wrote: Parting, MVP, and Life are still the ones winning everything though.... Bomber still being Bomber MC and MMA ruling foreign scene Lots of ESF representation. What's missing is foreigner presence and foreigner hope. Because when players like MKP, Seed, Maru are the mid level players of the world--what hope does WhiteRa, Dimaga, etc... have? And when so few Koreans flew overseas, it was a treat. Now Europe has to beat MVP--and despite him being in such a bad shape, he still wrecks. Stephano retires, Greg retires, Naniwa loses consistency, Huk stops producing. We now lean on TLO? TLO & Snute are already there! | ||
monk
United States8476 Posts
On June 28 2013 05:05 StarTale_Balloon wrote: accidentally write post in TL o.O i find like 30 min for button to delete XD but there is no deleting post in TL :Obtw thx for cheering :D imba english, you should post more! | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
I know, I was just saying that I believe the loss of fans is the loss of foreign hope, not the loss of ESF hope. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
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