On June 18 2013 09:43 phiRa wrote: I don't think I have ever seen JD win with swarm hosts.. it just doesn't seem like his style at all. Stephano plz give him tips
I've seen a lot of pros fail with SHs. I think there are only a few guys who know how to use them effectively, but in either case like usual JD made a lot of stupid decisions in that series. Hard to watch as an old fan of his, but heck he does make things more entertaining than they should be.
On June 18 2013 09:40 BigFan wrote: hmm I dunno if I'm happy that Stardust won or sad that JD lost >< I can't believe I go to sleep for a bit and miss the finals lol. There are no vods it seems on the DH twitch account. Any other place to watch them? Would like to see that last game. Hopefully JD moves away from swarm hosts after this because they are terrible at base trading ><
On June 18 2013 09:43 phiRa wrote: I don't think I have ever seen JD win with swarm hosts.. it just doesn't seem like his style at all. Stephano plz give him tips
I've seen a lot of pros fail with SHs. I think there are only a few guys who know how to use them effectively, but in either case like usual JD made a lot of stupid decisions in that series. Hard to watch as an old fan of his, but heck he does make things more entertaining than they should be.
I simply think that Jaedong doesn't really get the PvZ matchup at the highest level. Allinish gambles like in the first game and the 4th game ususally fail more often than they work. Counterattacking a Protoss is not the same as counterattacking a Terran, as you can't camp Warpgates. You can't randomly start attacking with swarm hosts. And spine crawlers only help you so much, but you need something that actually deals the damage to the Protoss army.
When watching him play PvZ, it always feels like raw skill without a system.
On June 18 2013 09:40 BigFan wrote: hmm I dunno if I'm happy that Stardust won or sad that JD lost >< I can't believe I go to sleep for a bit and miss the finals lol. There are no vods it seems on the DH twitch account. Any other place to watch them? Would like to see that last game. Hopefully JD moves away from swarm hosts after this because they are terrible at base trading ><
On June 18 2013 09:43 phiRa wrote: I don't think I have ever seen JD win with swarm hosts.. it just doesn't seem like his style at all. Stephano plz give him tips
I've seen a lot of pros fail with SHs. I think there are only a few guys who know how to use them effectively, but in either case like usual JD made a lot of stupid decisions in that series. Hard to watch as an old fan of his, but heck he does make things more entertaining than they should be.
I simply think that Jaedong doesn't really get the PvZ matchup at the highest level. Allinish gambles like in the first game and the 4th game ususally fail more often than they work. Counterattacking a Protoss is not the same as counterattacking a Terran, as you can't camp Warpgates. You can't randomly start attacking with swarm hosts. And spine crawlers only help you so much, but you need something that actually deals the damage to the Protoss army.
When watching him play PvZ, it always feels like raw skill without a system.
Yeah whenever I watch his stream I usually cringe a lot at his decisions. Not that I'm good but he doesn't really work well with SH, or he just masses Mutalisks and his multi-tasking skill helps him win games that don't really make sense imo. I really wanted him to win anyways but I can't believe his extractor was scouted in game 3. Damn.
On June 18 2013 09:43 phiRa wrote: I don't think I have ever seen JD win with swarm hosts.. it just doesn't seem like his style at all. Stephano plz give him tips
JD vs Gumiho game 1 yesterday. Swarmhost is pretty stupid, plz watch that game.
On June 18 2013 03:19 Dumbledore wrote: I'm swedish and I got really excited by Sjows play, But I'm rooting for Stardust to win this tournament, the protoss hope :D
TLO beat both life and lucifron for 5th spot? :O That's even more impressive than Stardust winning JD imo. Congrats to Stardust! Jaedong looks crushed though, poor guy. Hope he wins next time.