On June 08 2013 14:33 JacobShock wrote: I wonder how many people leave the Innovation wagon right away if he happens to lose to Alive. That be interesting.
Soulkey will gain a bunch of fans magically
The power rank thread will burn
If Mvp wins this tournament then Flash should be #1 in the power rank because he is the highest player that didnt lose this weekend D:
We should just proclaim the last 10 UWC title holders the top 10 and be done with it. Totally objective!
On June 08 2013 14:20 Prince_Stranger wrote: Interestingly, MVP TvT much better than Forgg. I am curious is it because Forgg has not high level TvT or MVP can compete vs players like Innovation?
ForGG's TvT record has been built up by playing weak opponents in Europe but people looked at the numbers instead of the names and overrated him quite a bit. That isn't to say he's terrible at it or anything, he's just not on Mvp's level and never has been.
On June 08 2013 14:11 packrat386 wrote: Mvp vs ForGG 2 - 1 Game 4 map is: Neo Planet S
Mvp is at the top right Forgg is at the bottom left
0:00 nothing funky so far
1:00 mvp going rax into gas forgg going for just a rax without a gas immediately afterward
2:00 Forgg scouting for proxies mvp gets the reactor on his rax
3:00 forgg drops his cc on the low ground then he gets 2 gas mvp building 2x reaper
4:00 mvp drops his cc and is making a 3rd and 4th reaper forgg is going straight for a factory
5:00 mvp building 2 more barracks his 4 reapers are doing a lot of harass but not getting a lot of kils
6:00 forgg getting hellbats while mvp denies mining at the nat
7:00 once the hellion is out the reapers are chased away mvp is building marauders and marines mvp getting stim and combat shields
8:00 mvp manages to scout the hellbat drops but forgg drops in the main of mvp
9:00 mvp has a larg bio force moving into forgg's main hes still tring to deal with the drop at his main
10:00 there is nothing to defend for fogg
he ggs
mvp takes the series 3-1
I go away last hearing that ForGG is getting a banshee then next thing I read is Mvp won 3-1 :/ Poor ForGG, must be crushed since he wanted to face Innovation but it can't be helped. That last game seems sad though especially if it was just a MM force that took him out(with no defense) ><
On June 08 2013 14:28 SHOOG wrote: What if aLive beats Innovation?
Most unexpected result in SC2 history
jjakji beating Leenock would still be the most unexpected big result. At least we know Innovation's TvT isn't as good as his other MUs
To be fair though, a fourth of the way into game 1 of jjajki vs. leenock we knew it was way more even than people thought, with maybe even the terran having a slight edge.
Imo still one of the greatest series to have ever been played even if my favorite player lost
On June 08 2013 14:28 SHOOG wrote: What if aLive beats Innovation?
Most unexpected result in SC2 history
jjakji beating Leenock would still be the most unexpected big result. At least we know Innovation's TvT isn't as good as his other MUs
wait, Seed beating MC wasn't more unexpected?
not really cause pvp and Seed actually was playing quite well back then. Though I did bet on MC.
Jjakji played okay, even had some unique TvP but really looked like he lucked out most of the way. Leenock meanwhile dominated MLG Providence and had the best ZvT in the world (beat MVP in a bo5 too). Then Jjakji just went apeshit and gave us our first good gsl final (which makes it even more unexpected).
On June 08 2013 14:28 SHOOG wrote: What if aLive beats Innovation?
Most unexpected result in SC2 history
jjakji beating Leenock would still be the most unexpected big result. At least we know Innovation's TvT isn't as good as his other MUs
what about Polt > MMA
I think San beating Nestea is probably by far the biggest upset, Jjajki was showing good plays before his run(Leenock was favored large part due to winning MLG Providence).
Or Rain vs. Nestea, where Rain allined him a bunch and won.
On June 08 2013 14:11 packrat386 wrote: Mvp vs ForGG 2 - 1 Game 4 map is: Neo Planet S
Mvp is at the top right Forgg is at the bottom left
0:00 nothing funky so far
1:00 mvp going rax into gas forgg going for just a rax without a gas immediately afterward
2:00 Forgg scouting for proxies mvp gets the reactor on his rax
3:00 forgg drops his cc on the low ground then he gets 2 gas mvp building 2x reaper
4:00 mvp drops his cc and is making a 3rd and 4th reaper forgg is going straight for a factory
5:00 mvp building 2 more barracks his 4 reapers are doing a lot of harass but not getting a lot of kils
6:00 forgg getting hellbats while mvp denies mining at the nat
7:00 once the hellion is out the reapers are chased away mvp is building marauders and marines mvp getting stim and combat shields
8:00 mvp manages to scout the hellbat drops but forgg drops in the main of mvp
9:00 mvp has a larg bio force moving into forgg's main hes still tring to deal with the drop at his main
10:00 there is nothing to defend for fogg
he ggs
mvp takes the series 3-1
I go away last hearing that ForGG is getting a banshee then next thing I read is Mvp won 3-1 :/ Poor ForGG, must be crushed since he wanted to face Innovation but it can't be helped. That last game seems sad though especially if it was just a MM force that took him out(with no defense) ><
yeah I wasn't that clear there. There was some defense initially (hellbats) but mvp had marauders and shit. After he killed that small force there just wasn't enough production to hold back mvps pretty significant MM force.