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On June 09 2013 05:57 MrSourGit wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 15:37 SayTT wrote:
I don't understand why they let day9 do starcraft events. He is or has a super annoying "persona" that he puts on. He is super loud and noisy and irritating. And he also don't add anything when there is other people who know starcraft better than him there.
User was warned for this post I agree , I find day 9 massively irritating and grinding. Can this forum let people have an opinion ? This guy wasn't even rude , he stated what he felt and BAM the TL kids ban him .... Over the top ....
It was a pretty rude comment. Also you only get a certain amount of leeway to bash community figures that have done a lot to advance the game. You're allowed to have an opinion, but if you rudely criticize someone like day9 without a good justification you will probably get warned.
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On June 08 2013 14:38 forsooth wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 14:20 Prince_Stranger wrote:
Interestingly, MVP TvT much better than Forgg. I am curious is it because Forgg has not high level TvT or MVP can compete vs players like Innovation? ForGG's TvT record has been built up by playing weak opponents in Europe but people looked at the numbers instead of the names and overrated him quite a bit. That isn't to say he's terrible at it or anything, he's just not on Mvp's level and never has been.
thats not how it works. and you can t claim hes better based on one result.
if thats the winrate he has against those players he played, hes better than mvp. mvp wouldnt be CLOSE to be excpected a 94% against the playerset he played, nobody would be, though flash ight get closeish. the argument you can use is that forgg ran above expectation, he got lucky. which is obviously the truth.
which one was actually the favourite is quite tricky. pinnacle odds ended at forgg being the slightest favourite.
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On June 09 2013 08:07 Veroleg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 14:38 forsooth wrote:On June 08 2013 14:20 Prince_Stranger wrote:
Interestingly, MVP TvT much better than Forgg. I am curious is it because Forgg has not high level TvT or MVP can compete vs players like Innovation? ForGG's TvT record has been built up by playing weak opponents in Europe but people looked at the numbers instead of the names and overrated him quite a bit. That isn't to say he's terrible at it or anything, he's just not on Mvp's level and never has been. thats not how it works. and you can t claim hes better based on one result. if thats the winrate he has against those players he played, hes better than mvp. mvp wouldnt be CLOSE to be excpected a 94% against the playerset he played, nobody would be, though flash ight get closeish. the argument you can use is that forgg ran above expectation, he got lucky. which is obviously the truth. which one was actually the favourite is quite tricky. pinnacle odds ended at forgg being the slightest favourite.
I don't think anyone is basing mvp's TvT prowess based on one result. He won 3 gsl championships in that matchup. Just in general mvp has always been quite good at slow moving mech styles with above average decisionmaking which are both well suited to TvT. All that forsooth is pointing out is that ForGG got a lot of hype for his winrate, but he was arguably playing inferior terrans giving that especially for the terran race, korean players are far ahead of nonkoreans.
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On June 09 2013 08:12 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 08:07 Veroleg wrote:On June 08 2013 14:38 forsooth wrote:On June 08 2013 14:20 Prince_Stranger wrote:
Interestingly, MVP TvT much better than Forgg. I am curious is it because Forgg has not high level TvT or MVP can compete vs players like Innovation? ForGG's TvT record has been built up by playing weak opponents in Europe but people looked at the numbers instead of the names and overrated him quite a bit. That isn't to say he's terrible at it or anything, he's just not on Mvp's level and never has been. thats not how it works. and you can t claim hes better based on one result. if thats the winrate he has against those players he played, hes better than mvp. mvp wouldnt be CLOSE to be excpected a 94% against the playerset he played, nobody would be, though flash ight get closeish. the argument you can use is that forgg ran above expectation, he got lucky. which is obviously the truth. which one was actually the favourite is quite tricky. pinnacle odds ended at forgg being the slightest favourite. I don't think anyone is basing mvp's TvT prowess based on one result. He won 3 gsl championships in that matchup. Just in general mvp has always been quite good at slow moving mech styles with above average decisionmaking which are both well suited to TvT. All that forsooth is pointing out is that ForGG got a lot of hype for his winrate, but he was arguably playing inferior terrans giving that especially for the terran race, korean players are far ahead of nonkoreans.
are you serious? everyone on here always bases things off of one result. probably including this guy. theres plenty of comments doing quite some implying how the results prove something.
he was pointing out that hes not on mvps level which he doesent know.
of course he was playing way worse terrans, but nobody in the world would be expected to go 94% over those games he went 94% over, so claiming mvp is better by noting they were uncomparably worse doesent work
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Ok , my bad , warned.
But still , come on , people have an opinion , let them say how they feel....
He's not rude , Day9 rly does seem to force his enthusiasm IMO. I gave him a chance once and watched a review he did for WoL about Stephano when he was doing early roach hydra to counter the Terran hellion banshee openings , I was very intrested in this new style and wanted to learn more ... He started well then, all of a sudden talks about his hair 'how's my hair look today ? Hmmmmm'. ....... Sorry , maybe just I find that off-putting.
''All opinions are equal, but some more equal than others' , actually a really good comment 
Fk I love sc2
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On June 09 2013 10:29 MrSourGit wrote:Ok , my bad , warned. But still , come on , people have an opinion , let them say how they feel.... He's not rude , Day9 rly does seem to force his enthusiasm IMO. I gave him a chance once and watched a review he did for WoL about Stephano when he was doing early roach hydra to counter the Terran hellion banshee openings , I was very intrested in this new style and wanted to learn more ... He started well then, all of a sudden talks about his hair 'how's my hair look today ? Hmmmmm'. ....... Sorry , maybe just I find that off-putting. ''All opinions are equal, but some more equal than others' , actually a really good comment Fk I love sc2
To me that's how he makes the show a little more funny w/ all the stories he tells and I think that's a big reason why he has a lot of fans. i think it brings some more personality to the daily. If that's not what you're looking for of course, I can understand how it can annoy you because you want pure sc2 content. I myself enjoy him a lot.
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Fair enough , he just ain't my cup of tea.
And now for a 10:00 - 03:00 session of starcraft
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Dammit, went to have a look at the VOD page and it has spoilers 
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