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Longtimer
Profile Joined April 2013
490 Posts
May 15 2013 19:34 GMT
#1461
At IEM, all the Korean winners would go and shake the losers hand after the games. And Koreans are pretty mannered. Plus, they have created the Starcraft scene. Should count for something.
ooDi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada170 Posts
May 15 2013 19:34 GMT
#1462
the social media guy.... lol....
"Believe you can and you're halfway there." @UR_ooDi www.twitch.tv/ooDi_sc
DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
May 15 2013 19:34 GMT
#1463
On May 16 2013 04:32 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Ha! Suck it, TL

http://i.imgur.com/RhBUqui.png

Thanks for pointing this out
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
May 15 2013 19:34 GMT
#1464
On May 16 2013 04:31 Stress wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:28 Hypemeup wrote:
most progamers in sweden belives the polite way is that the loser approaches to handshake the winner if he feels like it. never vise versa


From morrows twitter

Seemed like Vortix just wanted to gloat to naniwa perhaps.


Yeah, because Vortix knows Swedish 'customs'. Vortix was simply trying to be polite/respectable and Naniwa just went full asshat.


Give me a break, knowing the history between the two players? Do you really believe that?
Pokemon Master
Bunn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Estonia934 Posts
May 15 2013 19:34 GMT
#1465
Weird, how some people try to justify unsportsmanlike behaviour. Every other sport shakes hands, why would e-sports, or "swedish customs" be any different?
"There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level." - Bruce Lee
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 15 2013 19:34 GMT
#1466
On May 16 2013 04:31 Derez wrote:
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On May 16 2013 04:29 danteafk wrote:
I`d rather say vortix is BM, if you all guys go all about it.

If the winner wants to shake hands first, it`s like the winner says gg first instead of the loser.

No how it works in sports is that you compete, a winner is decided and you shake hands as a simple acknowledgement of respect. Shaking hands is not really optional.

Not that I care about naniwa making drama.

Yeah, not that I think it matters much here, but I just shake hands no matter what, never even thought about who is supposed to "initiate" the complicate gesture of a simple handshake out of mutual respect.
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
May 15 2013 19:34 GMT
#1467
On May 16 2013 04:30 Type|NarutO wrote:
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On May 16 2013 04:28 hastur420 wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:27 Type|NarutO wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:25 hastur420 wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:23 Type|NarutO wrote:
I don't think the winner should approach the loser with the handshake, especially if its against Naniwa. I think it was actually not more bad mannered of Naniwa to not accept it compared to VortiX even going over. Not bashing VortiX here, just disagree with some people here.


ROFL

yeah sportmanship is a douchy thing now!

naniwa is a douche so you're a douche if you don't expect him to be a douche!

the circle is complete, now bitter naniwa fanboys can go round and round and never encounter the real world.


Reported - read my post


and reported for what?

laughing at your totally laughable implication that him refusing to shake a hand was just as bad as going there to shake a hand after a game?

hahahaha you guys are priceless.


For ignorance, stupidity and aggressive tone. See MorroW's tweet. I don't know where you are from, but in EVERY sports, loser do approach / initiate the handshake. A winner doing it, is bad sportsmanship JUST AS MUCH as denying it. I bet you won't last very long with <250 posts already acting like the biggest douche ever.


i disagree. i play sports since im 5 and had some pretty good success on a semiprolevel. its only BM if you act like a douche when you offer the handshake. its totally ok to offer the hand shake since it represents good sportsmanship.
vortix didnt intend to insult naniwa, he just wanted to be a good sportsman as you could have seen bey his reaction when naniwa denied it.

tl;dr: its normal to offer handshake - no matter if you won or lost. its only bm if yoiu act like a douche while doing it
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
May 15 2013 19:34 GMT
#1468
Congratulation to naniwa for beating shuttle in this wcs.
Terran & Potato Salad.
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
May 15 2013 19:34 GMT
#1469
More Tweets:

i guess i am of old habit and still think the loser should approach the winner for the handshake. just like the loser should always say gg


-Morrow

but times change and after talking to some players who believe that it's just "fair play" to shake hands i dont deny it anymore @WWMorroW


Tod follows up his previous tweet.

thanks for the cheers but it's not the moment to flame naniwa, just feel happy for me! will try my best next game

Vortix being classy.
Beirut
Profile Joined January 2011
United States673 Posts
May 15 2013 19:34 GMT
#1470
Only in the SC2 community would someone try to argue that offering to shake someone's hand after a fair competition is unsportsmanlike. When has that ever been unsportsmanlike in the history of competitive sports.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 15 2013 19:34 GMT
#1471
On May 16 2013 04:33 Crushinator wrote:
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On May 16 2013 04:32 Sc2Null wrote:
love how this thread has turned into "is handshaking bm?"...isn't live report threads suppose to focus on the games not the players


Oh come on now you have over 3k posts, you aren't new here.

So TL is not better than Reddit after all eh?
Off-season = best season
Vendemmia
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy198 Posts
May 15 2013 19:34 GMT
#1472
i wanna listen the bar girl in the back!
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
May 15 2013 19:35 GMT
#1473
I sort of interpret a handshake like "gg" -- it's the loser's choice.

I can see being riled up from losing and just not wanting to be pleasant.
Big water
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
May 15 2013 19:35 GMT
#1474
Stefan Andersson ‏@WWMorroW 2m

i guess i am of old habit and still think the loser should approach the winner for the handshake. just like the loser should always say gg


Manuel Schenkhuizen Manuel Schenkhuizen ‏@followgrubby 2m

@WWMorroW then I would never get to go shake someone's hands.. tt


haha grubby :D
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
May 15 2013 19:35 GMT
#1475
On May 16 2013 04:33 SourceOdin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:30 Pwnzer wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:27 SourceOdin wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:25 Fiasko wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:24 SourceOdin wrote:
Are people really giving Nani shit for not shaking his hand? Vortix should've waited for Nani to offer a handshake or not go for one at all.


What? why?

I don't think it's proper for the winner to approach the loser for a handshake. For some people, it can easily be seen as rubbing it in. It's like a preemptive gg in a sense.


Maybe that's the way you see it, but I completely disagree with that. It's just another manner way of saying "gg thanks for the competition". It has nothing to do with being bm to OFFER SOMEONE A HANDSHAKE.

Treating it as a "gg" like you just did, it can most definitely be compared to an offensive gg. The losing player will typically gg out first, and if the winning player offensively ggs, it's seen as BM. Here, it's much the same, with Vortix offering the handshake. Do you see the analogy I'm trying to draw here?


naniwa did gg, which was acknowledging "its ok for you to offer me a handhsake"

besides, it only would have been rude for vortix to offer the handshake only to deny it and gloat.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 15 2013 19:35 GMT
#1476
On May 16 2013 04:31 CarlosOmse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:26 Type|NarutO wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:25 .maLice. wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:23 Type|NarutO wrote:
I don't think the winner should approach the loser with the handshake, especially if its against Naniwa. I think it was actually not more bad mannered of Naniwa to not accept it compared to VortiX even going over. Not bashing VortiX here, just disagree with some people here.


At least over here in the states, when we're playing sports we act like men, and win or lose--we shake hands with our opponent..


I didn't say it was mannered, all I said that I think it was just as bad mannered by VortiX especially because you know Naniwa. If you want to show some respect, respect that he's not calm/happy after the loss. Cannot be that hard to understand is nothing but player bashing


well they put up a good show with this and of course it was kind of an offensiv handshake but i still think u should just give it back


I never said differently.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
May 15 2013 19:35 GMT
#1477
that girl is checking herself out on the monitor lul
yo
daskilla
Profile Joined July 2010
Latvia141 Posts
May 15 2013 19:35 GMT
#1478
On May 16 2013 04:29 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:23 Type|NarutO wrote:
I don't think the winner should approach the loser with the handshake, especially if its against Naniwa. I think it was actually not more bad mannered of Naniwa to not accept it compared to VortiX even going over. Not bashing VortiX here, just disagree with some people here.

Hehe, if you think it's bad mannered to approach the loser to shake his hand, how would you describe this:



;D


Made me laugh, classic FBH! :D
PerryHooter
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden268 Posts
May 15 2013 19:35 GMT
#1479
On May 16 2013 04:33 SourceOdin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:30 Pwnzer wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:27 SourceOdin wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:25 Fiasko wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:24 SourceOdin wrote:
Are people really giving Nani shit for not shaking his hand? Vortix should've waited for Nani to offer a handshake or not go for one at all.


What? why?

I don't think it's proper for the winner to approach the loser for a handshake. For some people, it can easily be seen as rubbing it in. It's like a preemptive gg in a sense.


Maybe that's the way you see it, but I completely disagree with that. It's just another manner way of saying "gg thanks for the competition". It has nothing to do with being bm to OFFER SOMEONE A HANDSHAKE.

Treating it as a "gg" like you just did, it can most definitely be compared to an offensive gg. The losing player will typically gg out first, and if the winning player offensively ggs, it's seen as BM. Here, it's much the same, with Vortix offering the handshake. Do you see the analogy I'm trying to draw here?


It's far worse being a "bad winner" (offensive gg etc.) than being a bad loser though.
"The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt"
reki-
Profile Joined July 2008
Netherlands327 Posts
May 15 2013 19:35 GMT
#1480
leave it to TL threads to scrutinize a gesture
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