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Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
May 15 2013 19:31 GMT
#1421
On May 16 2013 04:28 Hypemeup wrote:
Show nested quote +
most progamers in sweden belives the polite way is that the loser approaches to handshake the winner if he feels like it. never vise versa


From morrows twitter

Seemed like Vortix just wanted to gloat to naniwa perhaps.


Yeah, because Vortix knows Swedish 'customs'. Vortix was simply trying to be polite/respectable and Naniwa just went full asshat.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
Lega-
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada141 Posts
May 15 2013 19:31 GMT
#1422
Wow Nani got owned today.. did not expect that!
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
May 15 2013 19:31 GMT
#1423
On May 16 2013 04:29 danteafk wrote:
I`d rather say vortix is BM, if you all guys go all about it.

If the winner wants to shake hands first, it`s like the winner says gg first instead of the loser.

No how it works in sports is that you compete, a winner is decided and you shake hands as a simple acknowledgement of respect. Shaking hands is not really optional.

Not that I care about naniwa making drama.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
May 15 2013 19:31 GMT
#1424
On May 16 2013 04:30 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:28 hastur420 wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:27 Type|NarutO wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:25 hastur420 wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:23 Type|NarutO wrote:
I don't think the winner should approach the loser with the handshake, especially if its against Naniwa. I think it was actually not more bad mannered of Naniwa to not accept it compared to VortiX even going over. Not bashing VortiX here, just disagree with some people here.


ROFL

yeah sportmanship is a douchy thing now!

naniwa is a douche so you're a douche if you don't expect him to be a douche!

the circle is complete, now bitter naniwa fanboys can go round and round and never encounter the real world.


Reported - read my post


and reported for what?

laughing at your totally laughable implication that him refusing to shake a hand was just as bad as going there to shake a hand after a game?

hahahaha you guys are priceless.


For ignorance, stupidity and aggressive tone. See MorroW's tweet. I don't know where you are from, but in EVERY sports, loser do approach / initiate the handshake. A winner doing it, is bad sportsmanship JUST AS MUCH as denying it. I bet you won't last very long with <250 posts already acting like the biggest douche ever.

Actually, that's wrong, in the US from HS - college both teams/players shake hands no matter what.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
.maLice.
Profile Joined December 2011
United States174 Posts
May 15 2013 19:31 GMT
#1425
On May 16 2013 04:30 Doublemint wrote:
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On May 16 2013 04:28 s3rp wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:25 .maLice. wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:23 Type|NarutO wrote:
I don't think the winner should approach the loser with the handshake, especially if its against Naniwa. I think it was actually not more bad mannered of Naniwa to not accept it compared to VortiX even going over. Not bashing VortiX here, just disagree with some people here.


At least over here in the states, when we're playing sports we act like men, and win or lose--we shake hands with our opponent..


It's still better if the loser is the one extended the handshake. If you do it as a winner it can be seen as an offensive GG if that makes any sense. I mean imagine you just lost and are really pissed and want to cool off for a moment and your opponent runs over to you with a big grin does that seem friendly ? For me it wouldn't seem like that.


this. also "we in the states act like men" - lost me after that to be honest.



Good for you, buddy.
Lunchador
Profile Joined April 2010
United States776 Posts
May 15 2013 19:31 GMT
#1426
On May 16 2013 04:28 Sakkreth wrote:
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On May 16 2013 04:25 Fiasko wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:24 SourceOdin wrote:
Are people really giving Nani shit for not shaking his hand? Vortix should've waited for Nani to offer a handshake or not go for one at all.


What? why?


Because it's a norm for loser to congratulate winner, just like gg as approval. When u win u don't go fopr handshake first, it's similar to offensive gg from my point of view.


Huh... interesting point of view. Over here, I typically see the winner walking over to the loser's booth to shake hands or they meet halfway. In the few times I've seen a handshake happen in the GSL, it was always the winner walking over to the loser's side as well.
Defender of truth, justice, and noontime meals!
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
May 15 2013 19:32 GMT
#1427
love how this thread has turned into "is handshaking bm?"...isn't live report threads suppose to focus on the games not the players
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Littlesheep
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada217 Posts
May 15 2013 19:32 GMT
#1428
Is there anything that will scare girls away more than an "I love Esports" T-Shirt? if there is some sort of girl repellent you can buy in stores the social media guy should look into that aswell.
pro toez
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
May 15 2013 19:32 GMT
#1429
On May 16 2013 04:29 McBengt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:25 .maLice. wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:23 Type|NarutO wrote:
I don't think the winner should approach the loser with the handshake, especially if its against Naniwa. I think it was actually not more bad mannered of Naniwa to not accept it compared to VortiX even going over. Not bashing VortiX here, just disagree with some people here.


At least over here in the states, when we're playing sports we act like men, and win or lose--we shake hands with our opponent..


Exactly. I've sen guys lose world cup soccer and stanley cup finals. And guess what, they shake hands with their opponents. It's called being an adult.

The tournaments could adopt a "korean approach" to such televised matches and tell the players to shake hands ... much as the koreans make a bow to the audience before their matches.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 15 2013 19:32 GMT
#1430
Ha! Suck it, TL

http://i.imgur.com/RhBUqui.png
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Mangooze
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands301 Posts
May 15 2013 19:32 GMT
#1431
Maybe my memory is messing with me, but don't winning players in GSL and Dreamhack often go to losers booth to shake hands? Maybe I am wrong though.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
May 15 2013 19:32 GMT
#1432
On May 16 2013 04:23 TheBB wrote:
Oh Naniwa, I want to like you but you don't make it easy.


Hah, that's exactly how I feel. He has his ups *cue nani and thorzain playing cards/checkers/etc* and he has his downs... handshake deny... so sad.

In all my years of playing soccer, there were only maybe a COUPLE people that wouldn't shake my hand after the game, out of 1000s of people. And, if I remember correctly, only 1 team as a whole. It's one of the most disrespectful gestures in sports, esports included.

Na-ni, that's a no-no.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
May 15 2013 19:32 GMT
#1433
On May 16 2013 04:29 Wombat_NI wrote:
In defence of Naruto, I am pretty sure from my terrible sporting career and much watching that the expectation is of the loser offering their hand, rather than the winner.

Think of it as in playing ladder I guess, the loser is the one who ggs out, when the obvious winner does it it can smack of gloating (although I don't think that was the case in this instance)


I agree. When I lose in chess I give up by offering my hand saying good game.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
May 15 2013 19:32 GMT
#1434
guys i have been away for quite some time. what did vortix do.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
hastur420
Profile Joined March 2013
Belize178 Posts
May 15 2013 19:32 GMT
#1435
On May 16 2013 04:29 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:25 hastur420 wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:23 Type|NarutO wrote:
I don't think the winner should approach the loser with the handshake, especially if its against Naniwa. I think it was actually not more bad mannered of Naniwa to not accept it compared to VortiX even going over. Not bashing VortiX here, just disagree with some people here.


ROFL

yeah sportmanship is a douchy thing now!

naniwa is a douche so you're a douche if you don't expect him to be a douche!

the circle is complete, now bitter naniwa fanboys can go round and round and never encounter the real world.


Yes. NarutO is totally the bitter one here and you aptly made your point about how he calls everyone a douche.

You obviously are way more in touch with the real world, it's easy to see because unlike NarutO you don't get all up in arms over a forum post...

Seriously, he was just calmly stating his opinion.


so how does it feel like in his ass? maybe the smell clouded your common sense implying i am more bitter than him after my favorite to win actually WON

and after he wrote something stupid and i laughed about it.

also i didn't say he called anyone a douche.

seriously, try to think for a fucking second before you try to defend something or someone, because this was weaker than naniwa in armwrestling.
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
May 15 2013 19:32 GMT
#1436
On May 16 2013 04:30 Nah wrote:
Pretty bad mannered from Vortix to offer a handshake after a win.


Maybe yes, but given the drama between these two over twitter, this was hardly BM. Some was expected.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9319 Posts
May 15 2013 19:32 GMT
#1437
On May 16 2013 04:29 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:28 Hypemeup wrote:
most progamers in sweden belives the polite way is that the loser approaches to handshake the winner if he feels like it. never vise versa


From morrows twitter

Seemed like Vortix just wanted to gloat to naniwa perhaps.

LOL
Tell me, is Vortix Swedish? NO. So will he know this custom? NO.


I thought it's a universal custom. I know it's not a big deal but some people really can see it as some form of offensive gg.
You're now breathing manually
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
May 15 2013 19:32 GMT
#1438
On May 16 2013 04:31 .maLice. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 04:30 Doublemint wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:28 s3rp wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:25 .maLice. wrote:
On May 16 2013 04:23 Type|NarutO wrote:
I don't think the winner should approach the loser with the handshake, especially if its against Naniwa. I think it was actually not more bad mannered of Naniwa to not accept it compared to VortiX even going over. Not bashing VortiX here, just disagree with some people here.


At least over here in the states, when we're playing sports we act like men, and win or lose--we shake hands with our opponent..


It's still better if the loser is the one extended the handshake. If you do it as a winner it can be seen as an offensive GG if that makes any sense. I mean imagine you just lost and are really pissed and want to cool off for a moment and your opponent runs over to you with a big grin does that seem friendly ? For me it wouldn't seem like that.


this. also "we in the states act like men" - lost me after that to be honest.



Good for you, buddy.


I have to agree...You can't say "we in the states act like men" then expect people to take anything you say after that seriously.
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
May 15 2013 19:32 GMT
#1439
its ok if naniwa doesn't want to initiate a handshake.
but when offered a handshake you take it.
If you're insincere about it, just give him a limp floppy one instead of a firm solid one.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
May 15 2013 19:32 GMT
#1440
Umm... doesn't this happen in every MLG stage match? Winner gets out of his booth, goes to the other booth before his interview to shake hands
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
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