On February 19 2013 01:24 nufcrulz wrote: meh dont think this team can win anymore till the fifth round when stephano and taeja can carry the whole team on their backs. Those 2 have been the only bright sparks in the proleague so far, plus hero to a certain extent..
On February 19 2013 01:36 Xiphos wrote: EG-TL should stop making those goofy videos and start focusing on their bread and butter. This is just plain embarrassing, its not like they don't have enough practice time a la AirForce Ace.
By the way, I'm not even surprised to see Jaedong losing, his prime was long over around 2010.
Yeah, INcontrol would totally have owned WJS if he wasn't making the video...
No he needs to actually get good at the game too by putting in more practice time too and get his butt to Korea.
I think InControl himself will tell you that if it was just practice that he is missing from being a top player global, he would train his butt off.
I don't see Jaedong, Taeja, Hero, and JYP filming silly videos.
In fact, I don't see your point at all, and I doubt anyone else does either. Kespa teams have done all sorts of silly stuff in the past. They have had female beauty pageants (with only males participating) and played soccer games versus other Kespa teams.
The problem isn't filming videos. The problem is that Kespa players are REALLY fucking good and very underrated. If you wiped the GSL to a clean slate for one season (Code A/S wiped), you would have over 70% of Code S being Kespa by the end of the third season easily.
On February 19 2013 01:36 Xiphos wrote: EG-TL should stop making those goofy videos and start focusing on their bread and butter. This is just plain embarrassing, its not like they don't have enough practice time a la AirForce Ace.
By the way, I'm not even surprised to see Jaedong losing, his prime was long over around 2010.
Yeah, INcontrol would totally have owned WJS if he wasn't making the video...
No he needs to actually get good at the game too by putting in more practice time too and get his butt to Korea.
I think InControl himself will tell you that if it was just practice that he is missing from being a top player global, he would train his butt off.
I don't see Jaedong, Taeja, Hero, and JYP filming silly videos.
In fact, I don't see your point at all, and I doubt anyone else does either. Kespa teams have done all sorts of silly stuff in the past. They have had female beauty pageants (with only males participating) and played soccer games versus other Kespa teams.
The problem isn't filming videos. The problem is that Kespa players are REALLY fucking good and very underrated. If you wiped the GSL to a clean slate for one season (Code A/S wiped), you would have over 70% of Code S being Kespa by the end of the third season easily.
Your second point is just wrong, there have been plenty of opportunities for more Kespa players to get into Code S and all 7 of them failed to advance through the up/downs, Kespa is really top heavy when it comes to good individual league players so far.
On February 19 2013 01:36 Xiphos wrote: EG-TL should stop making those goofy videos and start focusing on their bread and butter. This is just plain embarrassing, its not like they don't have enough practice time a la AirForce Ace.
By the way, I'm not even surprised to see Jaedong losing, his prime was long over around 2010.
Yeah, INcontrol would totally have owned WJS if he wasn't making the video...
No he needs to actually get good at the game too by putting in more practice time too and get his butt to Korea.
I think InControl himself will tell you that if it was just practice that he is missing from being a top player global, he would train his butt off.
I don't see Jaedong, Taeja, Hero, and JYP filming silly videos.
In fact, I don't see your point at all, and I doubt anyone else does either. Kespa teams have done all sorts of silly stuff in the past. They have had female beauty pageants (with only males participating) and played soccer games versus other Kespa teams.
Lulz, you must be blind as they appear everytime during SPL commercial breaks. And oh yeah they definitely have done strange stuff in the past but at very low frequency. The soccer stuff was during off-seasons just letting you know. My point can't be anymore clear.
Some crazy irrational reactions ITT. Firing anybody is the stupidest idea I've heard, hiring some b-teamers would be a much better idea actually. Flaming the management or the coaches is irrelevant, the coach do what he can with what he got, which is pretty much less than everybody else in PL, so no miracle there.
I feel EG-TL needs to address this if they wanna win :
- No depth : very limited coaching choices = getting sniped over and over. - Nerves, mental strength : Zenio and HerO are not very good at this. Revival seems weak on that front too. Only momentum can get them better. - Changing priorities : players don't give a fuck about PL as soon as they enter GSL. - TL players don't train in the EG teamhouse, it shows. - Monetary incentive to win ?
On February 19 2013 01:24 nufcrulz wrote: meh dont think this team can win anymore till the fifth round when stephano and taeja can carry the whole team on their backs. Those 2 have been the only bright sparks in the proleague so far, plus hero to a certain extent..
On February 19 2013 01:36 Xiphos wrote: EG-TL should stop making those goofy videos and start focusing on their bread and butter. This is just plain embarrassing, its not like they don't have enough practice time a la AirForce Ace.
By the way, I'm not even surprised to see Jaedong losing, his prime was long over around 2010.
Yeah, INcontrol would totally have owned WJS if he wasn't making the video...
No he needs to actually get good at the game too by putting in more practice time too and get his butt to Korea.
I think InControl himself will tell you that if it was just practice that he is missing from being a top player global, he would train his butt off.
I don't see Jaedong, Taeja, Hero, and JYP filming silly videos.
In fact, I don't see your point at all, and I doubt anyone else does either. Kespa teams have done all sorts of silly stuff in the past. They have had female beauty pageants (with only males participating) and played soccer games versus other Kespa teams.
Lulz, you must be blind as they appear everytime during SPL commercial breaks. And oh yeah they definitely have done strange stuff in the past but at very low frequency. The soccer stuff was during off-seasons just letting you know. My point can't be anymore clear.
the team probably spent like, a few hours total max on the video only though, they're mostly rather short interviews. CJ and Team 8 have them too
The team really isn't that strong. They don't have a lot of depth, they are top heavy but have players that are easily sniped in the all-kill round, and they were unlucky that Taeja had a wrist injury. If Taeja would have won all his games like he should have they would be many places higher.
On February 19 2013 01:36 Xiphos wrote: EG-TL should stop making those goofy videos and start focusing on their bread and butter. This is just plain embarrassing, its not like they don't have enough practice time a la AirForce Ace.
By the way, I'm not even surprised to see Jaedong losing, his prime was long over around 2010.
Yeah, INcontrol would totally have owned WJS if he wasn't making the video...
No he needs to actually get good at the game too by putting in more practice time too and get his butt to Korea.
I think InControl himself will tell you that if it was just practice that he is missing from being a top player global, he would train his butt off.
I don't see Jaedong, Taeja, Hero, and JYP filming silly videos.
In fact, I don't see your point at all, and I doubt anyone else does either. Kespa teams have done all sorts of silly stuff in the past. They have had female beauty pageants (with only males participating) and played soccer games versus other Kespa teams.
Lulz, you must be blind as they appear everytime during SPL commercial breaks. And oh yeah they definitely have done strange stuff in the past but at very low frequency. The soccer stuff was during off-seasons just letting you know. My point can't be anymore clear.
I don't think the blame can be shifted onto any one individual tbh. The players need to prepare better since it shows(Taeja proxying a stargate instead of playing straight up macro against Skyhigh lol) and the coaches need to do a better job of helping them come up with strategies. It's also clear that their priorities lie elsewhere unlike the KeSPA teams which focus on PL before anything else and imo, that's the way to win!
On February 19 2013 01:36 Xiphos wrote: EG-TL should stop making those goofy videos and start focusing on their bread and butter. This is just plain embarrassing, its not like they don't have enough practice time a la AirForce Ace.
By the way, I'm not even surprised to see Jaedong losing, his prime was long over around 2010.
Yeah, INcontrol would totally have owned WJS if he wasn't making the video...
No he needs to actually get good at the game too by putting in more practice time too and get his butt to Korea.
I think InControl himself will tell you that if it was just practice that he is missing from being a top player global, he would train his butt off.
I don't see Jaedong, Taeja, Hero, and JYP filming silly videos.
In fact, I don't see your point at all, and I doubt anyone else does either. Kespa teams have done all sorts of silly stuff in the past. They have had female beauty pageants (with only males participating) and played soccer games versus other Kespa teams.
Lulz, you must be blind as they appear everytime during SPL commercial breaks. And oh yeah they definitely have done strange stuff in the past but at very low frequency. The soccer stuff was during off-seasons just letting you know. My point can't be anymore clear.
On February 19 2013 01:36 Xiphos wrote: EG-TL should stop making those goofy videos and start focusing on their bread and butter. This is just plain embarrassing, its not like they don't have enough practice time a la AirForce Ace.
By the way, I'm not even surprised to see Jaedong losing, his prime was long over around 2010.
Yeah, INcontrol would totally have owned WJS if he wasn't making the video...
No he needs to actually get good at the game too by putting in more practice time too and get his butt to Korea.
I think InControl himself will tell you that if it was just practice that he is missing from being a top player global, he would train his butt off.
I don't see Jaedong, Taeja, Hero, and JYP filming silly videos.
In fact, I don't see your point at all, and I doubt anyone else does either. Kespa teams have done all sorts of silly stuff in the past. They have had female beauty pageants (with only males participating) and played soccer games versus other Kespa teams.
Lulz, you must be blind as they appear everytime during SPL commercial breaks. And oh yeah they definitely have done strange stuff in the past but at very low frequency. The soccer stuff was during off-seasons just letting you know. My point can't be anymore clear.
the team probably spent like, a few hours total max on the video only though, they're mostly rather short interviews. CJ and Team 8 have them too
Lol, I'm trying to feed EG-TL a bone by giving them the time constraint execuse but alas you guys are too naive to take it. Its less humiliating.
On February 19 2013 01:24 nufcrulz wrote: meh dont think this team can win anymore till the fifth round when stephano and taeja can carry the whole team on their backs. Those 2 have been the only bright sparks in the proleague so far, plus hero to a certain extent..
On February 18 2013 22:47 niteReloaded wrote: Maybe EGTL still have the syndrome that they think they're the Stronger team than most. When that happens, and your opponents are close to your level, if you start calculating too much and playing 'to win safely' rather than taking the gloves off and having a fistfight, you don't play your best game! Who's afraid of losing can't win.
Fuckit can't hurt to speculate and give some selfhelp advice.
Are you watching the same games I am? It seems to me EG-TL's top players such as Taeja and HerO have lost recent games due to playing non-standard and doing something risky. I wish they just played more standard, and possibly even a little "safely" like you suggested.
On February 19 2013 01:36 Xiphos wrote: EG-TL should stop making those goofy videos and start focusing on their bread and butter. This is just plain embarrassing, its not like they don't have enough practice time a la AirForce Ace.
By the way, I'm not even surprised to see Jaedong losing, his prime was long over around 2010.
Yeah, INcontrol would totally have owned WJS if he wasn't making the video...
No he needs to actually get good at the game too by putting in more practice time too and get his butt to Korea.
I think InControl himself will tell you that if it was just practice that he is missing from being a top player global, he would train his butt off.
I don't see Jaedong, Taeja, Hero, and JYP filming silly videos.
In fact, I don't see your point at all, and I doubt anyone else does either. Kespa teams have done all sorts of silly stuff in the past. They have had female beauty pageants (with only males participating) and played soccer games versus other Kespa teams.
The problem isn't filming videos. The problem is that Kespa players are REALLY fucking good and very underrated. If you wiped the GSL to a clean slate for one season (Code A/S wiped), you would have over 70% of Code S being Kespa by the end of the third season easily.
Your second point is just wrong, there have been plenty of opportunities for more Kespa players to get into Code S and all 7 of them failed to advance through the up/downs, Kespa is really top heavy when it comes to good individual league players so far.
You give 16 seeds to KeSPA players in code S at the beginning, they will have championship by now. You put Life back in code B, no way he can get good results in code S after 3 seasons.
Proleague format produces teams with depth, they are not top heavy at all. eSF teams on the other hand, are overly top heavy, due to the low significance of team league, and the all kill format. And they attend tons of individual tournaments.
On February 19 2013 01:36 Xiphos wrote: EG-TL should stop making those goofy videos and start focusing on their bread and butter. This is just plain embarrassing, its not like they don't have enough practice time a la AirForce Ace.
By the way, I'm not even surprised to see Jaedong losing, his prime was long over around 2010.
Yeah, INcontrol would totally have owned WJS if he wasn't making the video...
No he needs to actually get good at the game too by putting in more practice time too and get his butt to Korea.
I think InControl himself will tell you that if it was just practice that he is missing from being a top player global, he would train his butt off.
I don't see Jaedong, Taeja, Hero, and JYP filming silly videos.
In fact, I don't see your point at all, and I doubt anyone else does either. Kespa teams have done all sorts of silly stuff in the past. They have had female beauty pageants (with only males participating) and played soccer games versus other Kespa teams.
The problem isn't filming videos. The problem is that Kespa players are REALLY fucking good and very underrated. If you wiped the GSL to a clean slate for one season (Code A/S wiped), you would have over 70% of Code S being Kespa by the end of the third season easily.
Your second point is just wrong, there have been plenty of opportunities for more Kespa players to get into Code S and all 7 of them failed to advance through the up/downs, Kespa is really top heavy when it comes to good individual league players so far.
You give 16 seeds to KeSPA players in code S at the beginning, they will have championship by now. You put Life back in code B, no way he can get good results in code S after 3 seasons.
Proleague format produces teams with depth, they are not top heavy at all. eSF teams on the other hand, are overly top heavy, due to the low significance of team league, and the all kill format. And they attend tons of individual tournaments.
You put esf teams in pro league and top 4 spots would be esf teams.
On February 19 2013 01:36 Xiphos wrote: EG-TL should stop making those goofy videos and start focusing on their bread and butter. This is just plain embarrassing, its not like they don't have enough practice time a la AirForce Ace.
By the way, I'm not even surprised to see Jaedong losing, his prime was long over around 2010.
Yeah, INcontrol would totally have owned WJS if he wasn't making the video...
No he needs to actually get good at the game too by putting in more practice time too and get his butt to Korea.
I think InControl himself will tell you that if it was just practice that he is missing from being a top player global, he would train his butt off.
I don't see Jaedong, Taeja, Hero, and JYP filming silly videos.
In fact, I don't see your point at all, and I doubt anyone else does either. Kespa teams have done all sorts of silly stuff in the past. They have had female beauty pageants (with only males participating) and played soccer games versus other Kespa teams.
The problem isn't filming videos. The problem is that Kespa players are REALLY fucking good and very underrated. If you wiped the GSL to a clean slate for one season (Code A/S wiped), you would have over 70% of Code S being Kespa by the end of the third season easily.
Your second point is just wrong, there have been plenty of opportunities for more Kespa players to get into Code S and all 7 of them failed to advance through the up/downs, Kespa is really top heavy when it comes to good individual league players so far.
You give 16 seeds to KeSPA players in code S at the beginning, they will have championship by now. You put Life back in code B, no way he can get good results in code S after 3 seasons.
Proleague format produces teams with depth, they are not top heavy at all. eSF teams on the other hand, are overly top heavy, due to the low significance of team league, and the all kill format. And they attend tons of individual tournaments.
You put esf teams in pro league and top 4 spots would be esf teams.
Yeah, just like EG-TL on No.1 spot. It's just that your screen setting is set to rotate 180 degree.
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