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Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
February 18 2013 13:48 GMT
#721
Two things they need to do to recover: Get TLO to play and bring HayprO back from retirement. Else all is lost
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
February 18 2013 13:58 GMT
#722
On February 18 2013 22:48 Kabras wrote:
Two things they need to do to recover: Get TLO to play and bring HayprO back from retirement. Else all is lost


How are TLO and HayprO any better than any of the current players? Please elaborate.

Kespa teams are not getting enough credit to how fast they are improving in SC2. They obviously didn't listen to the hype about EG-TL and just practiced their asses of instead.

My respect for Kespa teams are growing exponentially.

Too bad they don't play in GSTL. Would love to see them vs the established SC2 ESF teams. I think the elephant would stomp them.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
February 18 2013 14:21 GMT
#723
Well that was unfortunate
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5600 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 14:50:29
February 18 2013 14:50 GMT
#724
On February 18 2013 22:25 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 22:20 Morfildur wrote:
EG-TL seems to perform worse in every round. What happened to them?

Also, why would you place your most consistent player who also won against sOs and ZerO previously at 6th place where he might not even play at all?


Because at the end of the day, you have to win 3 out of the first 6 matches or you lose. Sure, 4-1 looks better than 4-0 on paper, but a lost is a lost (unless it comes down to tiebreakers which is less likely in a season this long). Remember that WJS also had their best player (Soulkey) in the 6th game.

Soulkey is actually their fourth best player by results.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 18 2013 14:51 GMT
#725
On February 18 2013 22:48 Kabras wrote:
Two things they need to do to recover: Get TLO to play and bring HayprO back from retirement. Else all is lost


Haha, of course
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
February 18 2013 15:08 GMT
#726
EG-TL has a pretty weak team to be honest.

There best player is Stephano, and he can carry them in all-kill rounds. Taeja is also very good, and JYP has been consistent. Everyone else hasn't been playing well. They'll do okay again in round 5 when the all-kill format returns. Stephano will be in proleague top shape by then.
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
February 18 2013 15:10 GMT
#727
EZ-TL is right where they should be. People tend to overrate the talent on their team, but to tell the truth, only taeja and jd are possibly high calibre players, who are of course not in their best shape right now. They are simply not as good as the other korean players, whether they are kespa or ESF. Of course, having only 2 good players on a team does not bode so well for in-house practice.

Nothing wrong with the coach, don't blame him. JD should get out of this team if he wants to show results.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 15:53:32
February 18 2013 15:50 GMT
#728
On February 19 2013 00:08 BronzeKnee wrote:
EG-TL has a pretty weak team to be honest.

There best player is Stephano, and he can carry them in all-kill rounds. Taeja is also very good, and JYP has been consistent. Everyone else hasn't been playing well. They'll do okay again in round 5 when the all-kill format returns. Stephano will be in proleague top shape by then.


Yes, Stephano is their best player....lol!....*sarcasm* most players in this team win one or two matches espeically in a best of one

BUT EGTL is off my list of possibly making a comeback...Taeja/JYP's play was the sloppiest ive seen of them lately...was just....awful


vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 18 2013 15:55 GMT
#729
On February 19 2013 00:08 BronzeKnee wrote:
EG-TL has a pretty weak team to be honest.

There best player is Stephano, and he can carry them in all-kill rounds. Taeja is also very good, and JYP has been consistent. Everyone else hasn't been playing well. They'll do okay again in round 5 when the all-kill format returns. Stephano will be in proleague top shape by then.


Problem with Stephano is that he is still fairly easy to snipe using ZvZ. Also, Rounds four and onward are HoTS so we will likely see a slight reshuffle in terms of player levels. Some players might adjust faster, some slower. Balance and maps might as be tilted towards a specific race/play style.
priestnoob
Profile Joined August 2011
243 Posts
February 18 2013 15:58 GMT
#730
On February 18 2013 15:00 MisterFred wrote:
You're all wrong. Very wrong. Yes, it's the first-place team vs the last place team. Yes, the matchups could have worked out better. Yes, doom & gloom is popular on forums.

But EG-TL is going to win this match, mark my words.

EG-TL has been oddly successful vs. Woongjin before (unlike CJ, who routinely owns them for no apparent reason) - and despite being the last place team, they're still not doing as badly as you'd think. A few won games and they're darn near 50-50. More importantly - THEY"RE NOT PLAYING AT THE OGN STUDIO. Excepting Stephano, who does not get intimidated, EG-TL is severely disadvantaged at the OGN studio. They just mentally fall apart. Not a lot of heart on the team. But they do have a lot of skill. And they're not playing in the OGN studio. They're playing when they have something to prove. And they're playing a team they do oddly well against.

This has all the hallmarks of an upset & a reason for EG-TL fans to hope again (until they play in the OGN studio next week and get unceremoniously destroyed by whatever team they're facing).

P.S. Anyone have the link to the Korean stream. NaverTV or something like that?



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SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
February 18 2013 16:13 GMT
#731
This is just embarrassing. EG-TL needs to change something.
Jornada
Profile Joined February 2012
United States223 Posts
February 18 2013 16:16 GMT
#732
EG-TL..... hmmmmm not impressed.
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nufcrulz
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore934 Posts
February 18 2013 16:24 GMT
#733
meh dont think this team can win anymore till the fifth round when stephano and taeja can carry the whole team on their backs. Those 2 have been the only bright sparks in the proleague so far, plus hero to a certain extent..
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
February 18 2013 16:30 GMT
#734
Woo, go Stars! Another great result for the boys of Woongjin.
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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
February 18 2013 16:32 GMT
#735
Stop the doom and gloom and be a bit supportive of your guys! To the players/coaches (who if they are the least bit sensible probably won't read this sorry excuse for a thread): Keep on fighting, train harder and suddenly things will start going your way!
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
February 18 2013 16:33 GMT
#736
dont kid yourself, stephano is above average in ZvT and ZvP but far from remarkable, he would get steamrolled by people like parting and bogus, but could stand a 50%+ chance of winning against regular A teamers.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
February 18 2013 16:36 GMT
#737
EG-TL should stop making those goofy videos and start focusing on their bread and butter. This is just plain embarrassing, its not like they don't have enough practice time a la AirForce Ace.

By the way, I'm not even surprised to see Jaedong losing, his prime was long over around 2010.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45925 Posts
February 18 2013 16:45 GMT
#738
These results are really making me sad The rounds started off being close, but now EG-TL is just getting stomped x.x

I wonder what can be fixed.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12915 Posts
February 18 2013 16:52 GMT
#739
When I saw EG-TL be 4-1ed the last match, despite having their best players, for once, on the field, I knew it was over for them for the week, and maybe even for the round. They'll have to fix their shit up soon enough, they have the potential but if they can't deliver it...
WriterMaru
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 16:55:36
February 18 2013 16:53 GMT
#740
Oh wow well done EGTL...

Next time less goofing around on streams, more proleague preparation perhaps?
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