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Funny little haters  )
Those that say he isn't code s weren't watching when he beat countless Code S heavy calibers in foreign events.
Like saying the likes of Polt, MC, MVP, Squitle, Bomber and many others are not code s.
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On February 01 2013 22:15 Zelniq wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 22:12 liberate71 wrote:On February 01 2013 22:08 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 22:05 Vertigro wrote:On February 01 2013 22:01 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 21:54 Awesomeness wrote:On February 01 2013 21:52 sitromit wrote:
Is the "Stephano could win GSL" nonsense finally over now? Can we just call him the best foreigner and leave it at that? Can we do that AND stop the "Stephano is not code s level" nonsense? Now that would be great. Maybe if you tell me what he proved tonight that made him Code S level? 2-0ing Hack, a player who ISN'T Code S level? Going 1-4 against Innovation, being read like a book and demolished, a player who IS Code S level? IF Stephano makes it back to Code S then I'll consider him it, until then, no, he's just the best foreigner. that's a little harsh? hack as far as i know qualified for code S fair and square? he deserved to be in that group, and whilst he was clearly one of the weaker 32 players, had still earn't his right to be there, also, I didn't see stephano getting "demolished" by innovation? I saw an innovation was was better prepared and superior in terms of tactical choice, but in terms of ability i think stephano held his own and more (see game 2 of the 2nd series)... everyone know's hypetrains are annoying, but anti-fan bias is just as irritating No, Stephano got 1-4'd. He won one game in 5, that is getting demolished. The 4 games Innovation won weren't even close. Stephano got STOMPED by Innovation, you can't twist that. Youre so god damn angry. If Stephano won that game, they would have been 2:3 but Stephano advancing. Who's the better player then? Would Stephano have been "beaten" by Innovation yet be in the RO16 instead? final game was close. the hellion allin and 11 11 rax allin are builds where it's hard to make it a close game..if the zerg loses it looks 1 sided, if the zerg holds it looks 1 sided for the zerg. and even in their first game it was pretty close for a long while, stephano put up a good fight and held many many drops/attacks.
Are you joking? Stephano got dismantled on whirlwind.
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On February 01 2013 22:13 Flinch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 22:12 liberate71 wrote:On February 01 2013 22:08 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 22:05 Vertigro wrote:On February 01 2013 22:01 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 21:54 Awesomeness wrote:On February 01 2013 21:52 sitromit wrote:
Is the "Stephano could win GSL" nonsense finally over now? Can we just call him the best foreigner and leave it at that? Can we do that AND stop the "Stephano is not code s level" nonsense? Now that would be great. Maybe if you tell me what he proved tonight that made him Code S level? 2-0ing Hack, a player who ISN'T Code S level? Going 1-4 against Innovation, being read like a book and demolished, a player who IS Code S level? IF Stephano makes it back to Code S then I'll consider him it, until then, no, he's just the best foreigner. that's a little harsh? hack as far as i know qualified for code S fair and square? he deserved to be in that group, and whilst he was clearly one of the weaker 32 players, had still earn't his right to be there, also, I didn't see stephano getting "demolished" by innovation? I saw an innovation was was better prepared and superior in terms of tactical choice, but in terms of ability i think stephano held his own and more (see game 2 of the 2nd series)... everyone know's hypetrains are annoying, but anti-fan bias is just as irritating No, Stephano got 1-4'd. He won one game in 5, that is getting demolished. The 4 games Innovation won weren't even close. Stephano got STOMPED by Innovation, you can't twist that. Youre so god damn angry. If Stephano won that game, they would have been 2:3 but Stephano advancing. Who's the better player then? Would Stephano have been "beaten" by Innovation yet be in the RO16 instead? Stephano was NEVER gonna win that game, Innovation read him like a book to the point where he could a-move to victory (lol 3 banes) 1-4, i have actual stats you have retarded fanboyism.
I'm not even a fanboy  I just think the way the "anti stephano" brigade is behaving is pretty disgusting and does nothing except cause ill feeling.
You didnt answer my question by the way...
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On February 01 2013 22:15 Flinch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 22:11 Bjarne wrote:On February 01 2013 22:08 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 22:05 Vertigro wrote:On February 01 2013 22:01 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 21:54 Awesomeness wrote:On February 01 2013 21:52 sitromit wrote:
Is the "Stephano could win GSL" nonsense finally over now? Can we just call him the best foreigner and leave it at that? Can we do that AND stop the "Stephano is not code s level" nonsense? Now that would be great. Maybe if you tell me what he proved tonight that made him Code S level? 2-0ing Hack, a player who ISN'T Code S level? Going 1-4 against Innovation, being read like a book and demolished, a player who IS Code S level? IF Stephano makes it back to Code S then I'll consider him it, until then, no, he's just the best foreigner. that's a little harsh? hack as far as i know qualified for code S fair and square? he deserved to be in that group, and whilst he was clearly one of the weaker 32 players, had still earn't his right to be there, also, I didn't see stephano getting "demolished" by innovation? I saw an innovation was was better prepared and superior in terms of tactical choice, but in terms of ability i think stephano held his own and more (see game 2 of the 2nd series)... everyone know's hypetrains are annoying, but anti-fan bias is just as irritating No, Stephano got 1-4'd. He won one game in 5, that is getting demolished. The 4 games Innovation won weren't even close. Stephano got STOMPED by Innovation, you can't twist that. Last GSL, 28 players ended up behind Bogus. All of them are bad? Stop that bullshit please. There is NOTHING wrong in loosing to Bogus, you can be a TOP LEVEL GSL player and loose against Bogus. Leenock is out too, MVP is out, Stephano is out....so what, means not that much.... All those players have a plethora of RESULTS in GSL, in KOREA, Stephano HAS NONE. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO BACK YOU UP. I HAVE A 1-4 STOMP.
I can't believe how worked up you're getting over this lmao.
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On February 01 2013 22:12 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 22:10 Supercilium wrote:On February 01 2013 22:05 mijellin wrote:On February 01 2013 22:01 Morken wrote:
Hmm what kinda bothers me lately when watching Starcraft is that whenever someone uses a flank or a surround, he is considered a genius.
Why is it that after millenia of human warfare and now after years of pro-gaming in Starcraft, this still seems to be something extraordinary in this game? It's one of the simplest tactical moves (although a devastating one), and all historical battles basically revolved around avoiding to get flanked, yet flank yourself. This should also be standard in Starcraft, but all I see are people who clump up their units into a ball and walk straight onto an open field without any cover at all, just to get overwhelmed by a simple flank.
If this kind of army movement just hasn't caught on yet in Starcraft (since WoL is still somewhat young) I wouldn't care, but it highly annoys me that casters, analysts and all sorts of other people, who call themselves experts in strategy games, act like flanking a completely undefended army was a stroke of genius and something they have never seen before or never would have thought of themselves. Because it takes extra effort to pull off. Just like how good macro or creep spread is impressive in execution, not bc they thought to do it. Exactly. And not only do you need to control two armies, you need to get them to hit the targets at the exact same time. Flanking against a mobile army makes it even harder since the enemy can move against one of the groups and get to fight half of the enemy. That is why a flank can be really beautiful. But I do agree we don't see it enough in Sc2. To be fair, a marine tank army on creep is probably the easiest army to flank in the game. It is like flanking unsupported BLs like Noblesse did to Nestea.
Exactly, tanks want to run to one direction, but that will be horrible unsieged.
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So based on rankings it should be DRG, life, squirtle and MC as the people heading groups in ro16 right?
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On February 01 2013 22:16 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 22:15 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 22:11 Bjarne wrote:On February 01 2013 22:08 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 22:05 Vertigro wrote:On February 01 2013 22:01 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 21:54 Awesomeness wrote:On February 01 2013 21:52 sitromit wrote:
Is the "Stephano could win GSL" nonsense finally over now? Can we just call him the best foreigner and leave it at that? Can we do that AND stop the "Stephano is not code s level" nonsense? Now that would be great. Maybe if you tell me what he proved tonight that made him Code S level? 2-0ing Hack, a player who ISN'T Code S level? Going 1-4 against Innovation, being read like a book and demolished, a player who IS Code S level? IF Stephano makes it back to Code S then I'll consider him it, until then, no, he's just the best foreigner. that's a little harsh? hack as far as i know qualified for code S fair and square? he deserved to be in that group, and whilst he was clearly one of the weaker 32 players, had still earn't his right to be there, also, I didn't see stephano getting "demolished" by innovation? I saw an innovation was was better prepared and superior in terms of tactical choice, but in terms of ability i think stephano held his own and more (see game 2 of the 2nd series)... everyone know's hypetrains are annoying, but anti-fan bias is just as irritating No, Stephano got 1-4'd. He won one game in 5, that is getting demolished. The 4 games Innovation won weren't even close. Stephano got STOMPED by Innovation, you can't twist that. Last GSL, 28 players ended up behind Bogus. All of them are bad? Stop that bullshit please. There is NOTHING wrong in loosing to Bogus, you can be a TOP LEVEL GSL player and loose against Bogus. Leenock is out too, MVP is out, Stephano is out....so what, means not that much.... All those players have a plethora of RESULTS in GSL, in KOREA, Stephano HAS NONE. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO BACK YOU UP. I HAVE A 1-4 STOMP. I can't believe how worked up you're getting over this lmao.
Flinch hasn't made many posts that don't have personal insults.
Don't take it...personally?
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I think Stephano did well.
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On February 01 2013 22:14 Vertigro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 22:13 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 22:12 liberate71 wrote:On February 01 2013 22:08 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 22:05 Vertigro wrote:On February 01 2013 22:01 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 21:54 Awesomeness wrote:On February 01 2013 21:52 sitromit wrote:
Is the "Stephano could win GSL" nonsense finally over now? Can we just call him the best foreigner and leave it at that? Can we do that AND stop the "Stephano is not code s level" nonsense? Now that would be great. Maybe if you tell me what he proved tonight that made him Code S level? 2-0ing Hack, a player who ISN'T Code S level? Going 1-4 against Innovation, being read like a book and demolished, a player who IS Code S level? IF Stephano makes it back to Code S then I'll consider him it, until then, no, he's just the best foreigner. that's a little harsh? hack as far as i know qualified for code S fair and square? he deserved to be in that group, and whilst he was clearly one of the weaker 32 players, had still earn't his right to be there, also, I didn't see stephano getting "demolished" by innovation? I saw an innovation was was better prepared and superior in terms of tactical choice, but in terms of ability i think stephano held his own and more (see game 2 of the 2nd series)... everyone know's hypetrains are annoying, but anti-fan bias is just as irritating No, Stephano got 1-4'd. He won one game in 5, that is getting demolished. The 4 games Innovation won weren't even close. Stephano got STOMPED by Innovation, you can't twist that. Youre so god damn angry. If Stephano won that game, they would have been 2:3 but Stephano advancing. Who's the better player then? Would Stephano have been "beaten" by Innovation yet be in the RO16 instead? Stephano was NEVER gonna win that game, Innovation read him like a book to the point where he could a-move to victory (lol 3 banes) 1-4, i have actual stats you have retarded fanboyism. yes, you can tell us he went 1-4 against bogus... suppose that would dictate that HuK destroyed Fantasy in the Up/Downs because he went 1-0... technically 1 is bigger than 0 so yeah, actual stats right here
What are sample sizes.
Holy fuck can you get more retarded?
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On February 01 2013 22:16 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 22:15 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 22:11 Bjarne wrote:On February 01 2013 22:08 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 22:05 Vertigro wrote:On February 01 2013 22:01 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 21:54 Awesomeness wrote:On February 01 2013 21:52 sitromit wrote:
Is the "Stephano could win GSL" nonsense finally over now? Can we just call him the best foreigner and leave it at that? Can we do that AND stop the "Stephano is not code s level" nonsense? Now that would be great. Maybe if you tell me what he proved tonight that made him Code S level? 2-0ing Hack, a player who ISN'T Code S level? Going 1-4 against Innovation, being read like a book and demolished, a player who IS Code S level? IF Stephano makes it back to Code S then I'll consider him it, until then, no, he's just the best foreigner. that's a little harsh? hack as far as i know qualified for code S fair and square? he deserved to be in that group, and whilst he was clearly one of the weaker 32 players, had still earn't his right to be there, also, I didn't see stephano getting "demolished" by innovation? I saw an innovation was was better prepared and superior in terms of tactical choice, but in terms of ability i think stephano held his own and more (see game 2 of the 2nd series)... everyone know's hypetrains are annoying, but anti-fan bias is just as irritating No, Stephano got 1-4'd. He won one game in 5, that is getting demolished. The 4 games Innovation won weren't even close. Stephano got STOMPED by Innovation, you can't twist that. Last GSL, 28 players ended up behind Bogus. All of them are bad? Stop that bullshit please. There is NOTHING wrong in loosing to Bogus, you can be a TOP LEVEL GSL player and loose against Bogus. Leenock is out too, MVP is out, Stephano is out....so what, means not that much.... All those players have a plethora of RESULTS in GSL, in KOREA, Stephano HAS NONE. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO BACK YOU UP. I HAVE A 1-4 STOMP. I can't believe how worked up you're getting over this lmao.
he's literally driving the anti-fan brigade on his own :D
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On the whole "Is player X Code S because he is in the Ro32" you have to consider two things:
a) Nestea was in the Ro32 and he definitely didn't play like a code S player. (quote from Artosis, his biggest fan). Charity zerg made it to the Ro16...
b) Not all players get into the Ro32 by qualifying for it. And not all Code A/S players thus play players that qualified for Code S.
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On February 01 2013 22:15 Flinch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 22:11 Bjarne wrote:On February 01 2013 22:08 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 22:05 Vertigro wrote:On February 01 2013 22:01 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 21:54 Awesomeness wrote:On February 01 2013 21:52 sitromit wrote:
Is the "Stephano could win GSL" nonsense finally over now? Can we just call him the best foreigner and leave it at that? Can we do that AND stop the "Stephano is not code s level" nonsense? Now that would be great. Maybe if you tell me what he proved tonight that made him Code S level? 2-0ing Hack, a player who ISN'T Code S level? Going 1-4 against Innovation, being read like a book and demolished, a player who IS Code S level? IF Stephano makes it back to Code S then I'll consider him it, until then, no, he's just the best foreigner. that's a little harsh? hack as far as i know qualified for code S fair and square? he deserved to be in that group, and whilst he was clearly one of the weaker 32 players, had still earn't his right to be there, also, I didn't see stephano getting "demolished" by innovation? I saw an innovation was was better prepared and superior in terms of tactical choice, but in terms of ability i think stephano held his own and more (see game 2 of the 2nd series)... everyone know's hypetrains are annoying, but anti-fan bias is just as irritating No, Stephano got 1-4'd. He won one game in 5, that is getting demolished. The 4 games Innovation won weren't even close. Stephano got STOMPED by Innovation, you can't twist that. Last GSL, 28 players ended up behind Bogus. All of them are bad? Stop that bullshit please. There is NOTHING wrong in loosing to Bogus, you can be a TOP LEVEL GSL player and loose against Bogus. Leenock is out too, MVP is out, Stephano is out....so what, means not that much.... All those players have a plethora of RESULTS in GSL, in KOREA, Stephano HAS NONE. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO BACK YOU UP. I HAVE A 1-4 STOMP.
Stephano tried once, this means nothing. Maybe you are too angry to understand that. If you give Leenock only ONE try and he looses - is he bad??? Please use your brain before next post and think about it. If you give MVP only ONE try....same....
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Feeding the troll like bawses you guys. Tztztz
Low post count, caps lock, plethora of insults and an "opinion" bound to incite massive arguments- do you really need the red below his posts to connect the dots for you?
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On February 01 2013 22:15 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 22:14 Shaddar wrote:On February 01 2013 22:12 liberate71 wrote:On February 01 2013 22:08 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 22:05 Vertigro wrote:On February 01 2013 22:01 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 21:54 Awesomeness wrote:On February 01 2013 21:52 sitromit wrote:
Is the "Stephano could win GSL" nonsense finally over now? Can we just call him the best foreigner and leave it at that? Can we do that AND stop the "Stephano is not code s level" nonsense? Now that would be great. Maybe if you tell me what he proved tonight that made him Code S level? 2-0ing Hack, a player who ISN'T Code S level? Going 1-4 against Innovation, being read like a book and demolished, a player who IS Code S level? IF Stephano makes it back to Code S then I'll consider him it, until then, no, he's just the best foreigner. that's a little harsh? hack as far as i know qualified for code S fair and square? he deserved to be in that group, and whilst he was clearly one of the weaker 32 players, had still earn't his right to be there, also, I didn't see stephano getting "demolished" by innovation? I saw an innovation was was better prepared and superior in terms of tactical choice, but in terms of ability i think stephano held his own and more (see game 2 of the 2nd series)... everyone know's hypetrains are annoying, but anti-fan bias is just as irritating No, Stephano got 1-4'd. He won one game in 5, that is getting demolished. The 4 games Innovation won weren't even close. Stephano got STOMPED by Innovation, you can't twist that. Youre so god damn angry. If Stephano won that game, they would have been 2:3 but Stephano advancing. Who's the better player then? Would Stephano have been "beaten" by Innovation yet be in the RO16 instead? Yeah but that didn't happen. So... Phew. I'm glad you pointed out that my hypothetical situation didn't occur. Thanks mate <3
My point is that there's no point talking about hypothetical situations in this case.
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On February 01 2013 22:16 Flinch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 22:15 Zelniq wrote:On February 01 2013 22:12 liberate71 wrote:On February 01 2013 22:08 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 22:05 Vertigro wrote:On February 01 2013 22:01 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 21:54 Awesomeness wrote:On February 01 2013 21:52 sitromit wrote:
Is the "Stephano could win GSL" nonsense finally over now? Can we just call him the best foreigner and leave it at that? Can we do that AND stop the "Stephano is not code s level" nonsense? Now that would be great. Maybe if you tell me what he proved tonight that made him Code S level? 2-0ing Hack, a player who ISN'T Code S level? Going 1-4 against Innovation, being read like a book and demolished, a player who IS Code S level? IF Stephano makes it back to Code S then I'll consider him it, until then, no, he's just the best foreigner. that's a little harsh? hack as far as i know qualified for code S fair and square? he deserved to be in that group, and whilst he was clearly one of the weaker 32 players, had still earn't his right to be there, also, I didn't see stephano getting "demolished" by innovation? I saw an innovation was was better prepared and superior in terms of tactical choice, but in terms of ability i think stephano held his own and more (see game 2 of the 2nd series)... everyone know's hypetrains are annoying, but anti-fan bias is just as irritating No, Stephano got 1-4'd. He won one game in 5, that is getting demolished. The 4 games Innovation won weren't even close. Stephano got STOMPED by Innovation, you can't twist that. Youre so god damn angry. If Stephano won that game, they would have been 2:3 but Stephano advancing. Who's the better player then? Would Stephano have been "beaten" by Innovation yet be in the RO16 instead? final game was close. the hellion allin and 11 11 rax allin are builds where it's hard to make it a close game..if the zerg loses it looks 1 sided, if the zerg holds it looks 1 sided for the zerg. and even in their first game it was pretty close for a long while, stephano put up a good fight and held many many drops/attacks. Are you joking? Stephano got dismantled on whirlwind.
i'm not joking, and i would agree that bogus 'dismantled' him but it was still a slow dismantling that wasn't always going his way the entire time. several of the drops/attacks stephano held in a manner that went in his favor. if he had kept that up a bit longer he would have had a lead
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I'd like to ask it again, but If Stephano (and Hack) aren't Code S level, then the other players who are eliminated with worse records than Stephano aren't either? And if so, who should be there instead?
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On February 01 2013 22:17 Flinch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 22:14 Vertigro wrote:On February 01 2013 22:13 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 22:12 liberate71 wrote:On February 01 2013 22:08 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 22:05 Vertigro wrote:On February 01 2013 22:01 Flinch wrote:On February 01 2013 21:54 Awesomeness wrote:On February 01 2013 21:52 sitromit wrote:
Is the "Stephano could win GSL" nonsense finally over now? Can we just call him the best foreigner and leave it at that? Can we do that AND stop the "Stephano is not code s level" nonsense? Now that would be great. Maybe if you tell me what he proved tonight that made him Code S level? 2-0ing Hack, a player who ISN'T Code S level? Going 1-4 against Innovation, being read like a book and demolished, a player who IS Code S level? IF Stephano makes it back to Code S then I'll consider him it, until then, no, he's just the best foreigner. that's a little harsh? hack as far as i know qualified for code S fair and square? he deserved to be in that group, and whilst he was clearly one of the weaker 32 players, had still earn't his right to be there, also, I didn't see stephano getting "demolished" by innovation? I saw an innovation was was better prepared and superior in terms of tactical choice, but in terms of ability i think stephano held his own and more (see game 2 of the 2nd series)... everyone know's hypetrains are annoying, but anti-fan bias is just as irritating No, Stephano got 1-4'd. He won one game in 5, that is getting demolished. The 4 games Innovation won weren't even close. Stephano got STOMPED by Innovation, you can't twist that. Youre so god damn angry. If Stephano won that game, they would have been 2:3 but Stephano advancing. Who's the better player then? Would Stephano have been "beaten" by Innovation yet be in the RO16 instead? Stephano was NEVER gonna win that game, Innovation read him like a book to the point where he could a-move to victory (lol 3 banes) 1-4, i have actual stats you have retarded fanboyism. yes, you can tell us he went 1-4 against bogus... suppose that would dictate that HuK destroyed Fantasy in the Up/Downs because he went 1-0... technically 1 is bigger than 0 so yeah, actual stats right here What are sample sizes. Holy fuck can you get more retarded?
Who nabbed that report while I was typing 
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