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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
Good job, LR community, you're not extraordinarily bad. ![]() | ||
Raiquer
Sweden98 Posts
On February 01 2013 21:45 Vertigro wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 21:44 LimitSEA wrote: On February 01 2013 21:43 Vertigro wrote: On February 01 2013 21:42 Raiquer wrote: Naniwa made it to the Round of 8 in GSL Code S TWICE. Stephano lost in the Round of 32 GSL Code S. and it only took naniwa how long? Well I mean.. He did it before Stephano. I don't really see your point. and jinro got to RO4 twice before naniwa? where are we going with this? That Jinro is the best foreigner in StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty of all time? | ||
liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On February 01 2013 22:24 Lasbike wrote: Innovation was not simply "code S level", he was top4 of code S. So tell me how this works exactly, any player who loses games against Innovation is "OHMAGAD NOT CODE S LEVEL" ? While Hack has been in code S, which probably mean he is "code S level". And he's been destroyed by Stephano. So considering both those things, I wonder how can you end up saying "Stephano is not code S level". What i'd say is more among the line of "Stephano is not top code S level and would obviously not end up in RO8,4, runner up or winner" Yeah exactly. Some people think its all or nothing... and assume if youre not with them, youre against them. | ||
Musicus
Germany23570 Posts
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FineAndDandy
166 Posts
On February 01 2013 22:19 Mafe wrote: I'd like to ask it again, but If Stephano (and Hack) aren't Code S level, then the other players who are eliminated with worse records than Stephano aren't either? And if so, who should be there instead? But those eliminated Korean players qualified through code A, not getting a direct seed, so there is no question whether they should be in Code S or not. | ||
Vertigro
United Kingdom261 Posts
On February 01 2013 22:25 Raiquer wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 21:45 Vertigro wrote: On February 01 2013 21:44 LimitSEA wrote: On February 01 2013 21:43 Vertigro wrote: On February 01 2013 21:42 Raiquer wrote: Naniwa made it to the Round of 8 in GSL Code S TWICE. Stephano lost in the Round of 32 GSL Code S. and it only took naniwa how long? Well I mean.. He did it before Stephano. I don't really see your point. and jinro got to RO4 twice before naniwa? where are we going with this? That Jinro is the best foreigner in StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty of all time? seems irrelevant but yes, in terms of achievement, he is yeah... although id argue quite strongly about him being the best of all time in terms of actual ability ![]() | ||
Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
I hoped for him to finish top2 and i still think he has the neccessary skill to compete in Code S but well, maybe next time. | ||
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On February 01 2013 22:25 Musicus wrote: When was the last time a code S ro32 LR thread had 177 pages? I think the group with MMA Mvp and Taeja from 2012 Season 4 came close to this to be fair like 25 pages are post game fanboy fights | ||
Lunareste
United States3596 Posts
On February 01 2013 22:23 totauksz wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 22:14 Shaddar wrote: On February 01 2013 22:12 liberate71 wrote: On February 01 2013 22:08 Flinch wrote: On February 01 2013 22:05 Vertigro wrote: On February 01 2013 22:01 Flinch wrote: On February 01 2013 21:54 Awesomeness wrote: On February 01 2013 21:52 sitromit wrote: Is the "Stephano could win GSL" nonsense finally over now? Can we just call him the best foreigner and leave it at that? Can we do that AND stop the "Stephano is not code s level" nonsense? Now that would be great. Maybe if you tell me what he proved tonight that made him Code S level? 2-0ing Hack, a player who ISN'T Code S level? Going 1-4 against Innovation, being read like a book and demolished, a player who IS Code S level? IF Stephano makes it back to Code S then I'll consider him it, until then, no, he's just the best foreigner. that's a little harsh? hack as far as i know qualified for code S fair and square? he deserved to be in that group, and whilst he was clearly one of the weaker 32 players, had still earn't his right to be there, also, I didn't see stephano getting "demolished" by innovation? I saw an innovation was was better prepared and superior in terms of tactical choice, but in terms of ability i think stephano held his own and more (see game 2 of the 2nd series)... everyone know's hypetrains are annoying, but anti-fan bias is just as irritating No, Stephano got 1-4'd. He won one game in 5, that is getting demolished. The 4 games Innovation won weren't even close. Stephano got STOMPED by Innovation, you can't twist that. Youre so god damn angry. If Stephano won that game, they would have been 2:3 but Stephano advancing. Who's the better player then? Would Stephano have been "beaten" by Innovation yet be in the RO16 instead? Yeah but that didn't happen. So... so stephano got cheesed 3 out of 4 games, he didn't scout therefore lost. why is everybody trying to read too much into this? players who had similar or worse score than Stephano this season: Byul, Creator, Leenock, Sniper, Hyun, Yoda, Mvp, Ryung, Keen, Nestea those players didn't get 1% of the retarded hate Stephano gets. get the fuck out with the idiotic hate. yeah he lost, you hate his fanboys, ok. you hate him because of his fanboys?? then you're simply stupid (this wasn't aimed at shaddar, rather in general). he beat Bogus in a long macro game convincingly, but got punished for his lack of scouting, still proved he is no slouch. no need to be retarded about the matter I would argue that those players don't get 1% of the retarded hate Stephano gets, because they don't get 1% of the retarded hype he gets. Losing in the early game is still losing; and it isn't like Stephano can blame imbalance or map selection on his loss. He lost purely because he does not put enough effort into scouting, or he thinks he doesn't need to. Anyway, you kids take care, goodnight. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
On February 01 2013 22:27 Dodgin wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 22:25 Musicus wrote: When was the last time a code S ro32 LR thread had 177 pages? I think the group with MMA Mvp and Taeja from 2012 Season 4 came close to this to be fair like 25 pages are post game fanboy fights the one you said was close. This is the most recent 170 page one http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328747 When NaNiwa played | ||
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Poopi
France12758 Posts
On February 01 2013 22:27 Vertigro wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 22:25 Raiquer wrote: On February 01 2013 21:45 Vertigro wrote: On February 01 2013 21:44 LimitSEA wrote: On February 01 2013 21:43 Vertigro wrote: On February 01 2013 21:42 Raiquer wrote: Naniwa made it to the Round of 8 in GSL Code S TWICE. Stephano lost in the Round of 32 GSL Code S. and it only took naniwa how long? Well I mean.. He did it before Stephano. I don't really see your point. and jinro got to RO4 twice before naniwa? where are we going with this? That Jinro is the best foreigner in StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty of all time? seems irrelevant but yes, in terms of achievement, he is yeah... although id argue quite strongly about him being the best of all time in terms of actual ability ![]() In terms of achievement he is far from it lol. He is not even up there among foreign terrans, ThorZaIN is, then LucifroN/Kas. | ||
Confuse
2238 Posts
On February 01 2013 22:27 Vertigro wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 22:25 Raiquer wrote: On February 01 2013 21:45 Vertigro wrote: On February 01 2013 21:44 LimitSEA wrote: On February 01 2013 21:43 Vertigro wrote: On February 01 2013 21:42 Raiquer wrote: Naniwa made it to the Round of 8 in GSL Code S TWICE. Stephano lost in the Round of 32 GSL Code S. and it only took naniwa how long? Well I mean.. He did it before Stephano. I don't really see your point. and jinro got to RO4 twice before naniwa? where are we going with this? That Jinro is the best foreigner in StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty of all time? seems irrelevant but yes, in terms of achievement, he is yeah... although id argue quite strongly about him being the best of all time in terms of actual ability ![]() Jinro is the best foreigner of sc2 of all time as far as posted results in Code S. I imagine it will be that way for some time. Never forget, Jonathan Walsh!! | ||
Weirdkid
Singapore2431 Posts
On February 01 2013 22:27 Lunareste wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 22:23 totauksz wrote: On February 01 2013 22:14 Shaddar wrote: On February 01 2013 22:12 liberate71 wrote: On February 01 2013 22:08 Flinch wrote: On February 01 2013 22:05 Vertigro wrote: On February 01 2013 22:01 Flinch wrote: On February 01 2013 21:54 Awesomeness wrote: On February 01 2013 21:52 sitromit wrote: Is the "Stephano could win GSL" nonsense finally over now? Can we just call him the best foreigner and leave it at that? Can we do that AND stop the "Stephano is not code s level" nonsense? Now that would be great. Maybe if you tell me what he proved tonight that made him Code S level? 2-0ing Hack, a player who ISN'T Code S level? Going 1-4 against Innovation, being read like a book and demolished, a player who IS Code S level? IF Stephano makes it back to Code S then I'll consider him it, until then, no, he's just the best foreigner. that's a little harsh? hack as far as i know qualified for code S fair and square? he deserved to be in that group, and whilst he was clearly one of the weaker 32 players, had still earn't his right to be there, also, I didn't see stephano getting "demolished" by innovation? I saw an innovation was was better prepared and superior in terms of tactical choice, but in terms of ability i think stephano held his own and more (see game 2 of the 2nd series)... everyone know's hypetrains are annoying, but anti-fan bias is just as irritating No, Stephano got 1-4'd. He won one game in 5, that is getting demolished. The 4 games Innovation won weren't even close. Stephano got STOMPED by Innovation, you can't twist that. Youre so god damn angry. If Stephano won that game, they would have been 2:3 but Stephano advancing. Who's the better player then? Would Stephano have been "beaten" by Innovation yet be in the RO16 instead? Yeah but that didn't happen. So... so stephano got cheesed 3 out of 4 games, he didn't scout therefore lost. why is everybody trying to read too much into this? players who had similar or worse score than Stephano this season: Byul, Creator, Leenock, Sniper, Hyun, Yoda, Mvp, Ryung, Keen, Nestea those players didn't get 1% of the retarded hate Stephano gets. get the fuck out with the idiotic hate. yeah he lost, you hate his fanboys, ok. you hate him because of his fanboys?? then you're simply stupid (this wasn't aimed at shaddar, rather in general). he beat Bogus in a long macro game convincingly, but got punished for his lack of scouting, still proved he is no slouch. no need to be retarded about the matter I would argue that those players don't get 1% of the retarded hate Stephano gets, because they don't get 1% of the retarded hype he gets. Losing in the early game is still losing; and it isn't like Stephano can blame imbalance or map selection on his loss. He lost purely because he does not put enough effort into scouting, or he thinks he doesn't need to. Anyway, you kids take care, goodnight. How old are you to be able to address the forum in general as kids 0.o | ||
liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On February 01 2013 22:28 Shellshock1122 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 22:27 Dodgin wrote: On February 01 2013 22:25 Musicus wrote: When was the last time a code S ro32 LR thread had 177 pages? I think the group with MMA Mvp and Taeja from 2012 Season 4 came close to this to be fair like 25 pages are post game fanboy fights the one you said was close. This is the most recent 170 page one http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328747 When NaNiwa played I seem to remember back in mid 2011 when an LR thread with NesTea in the group hit 100 pages before the games even started? | ||
Musicus
Germany23570 Posts
On February 01 2013 22:28 Shellshock1122 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 22:27 Dodgin wrote: On February 01 2013 22:25 Musicus wrote: When was the last time a code S ro32 LR thread had 177 pages? I think the group with MMA Mvp and Taeja from 2012 Season 4 came close to this to be fair like 25 pages are post game fanboy fights the one you said was close. This is the most recent 170 page one http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328747 When NaNiwa played makes sense ![]() | ||
SChlafmann
France725 Posts
On February 01 2013 22:28 Shellshock1122 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 22:27 Dodgin wrote: On February 01 2013 22:25 Musicus wrote: When was the last time a code S ro32 LR thread had 177 pages? I think the group with MMA Mvp and Taeja from 2012 Season 4 came close to this to be fair like 25 pages are post game fanboy fights the one you said was close. This is the most recent 170 page one http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328747 When NaNiwa played Nanilove <3 The one thing that should be remember of today matchs is that Stephano is really close from top code S. All he lacks are some basics which can be fixed in a second. | ||
Random_0
United States1163 Posts
Too bad. I had hoped for more. | ||
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On February 01 2013 22:28 Shellshock1122 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 22:27 Dodgin wrote: On February 01 2013 22:25 Musicus wrote: When was the last time a code S ro32 LR thread had 177 pages? I think the group with MMA Mvp and Taeja from 2012 Season 4 came close to this to be fair like 25 pages are post game fanboy fights the one you said was close. This is the most recent 170 page one http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328747 When NaNiwa played Oh hey that was back when Puzzle still played in GSL. I miss Puzzle. | ||
totauksz
Ghana190 Posts
On February 01 2013 22:27 Lunareste wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 22:23 totauksz wrote: On February 01 2013 22:14 Shaddar wrote: On February 01 2013 22:12 liberate71 wrote: On February 01 2013 22:08 Flinch wrote: On February 01 2013 22:05 Vertigro wrote: On February 01 2013 22:01 Flinch wrote: On February 01 2013 21:54 Awesomeness wrote: On February 01 2013 21:52 sitromit wrote: Is the "Stephano could win GSL" nonsense finally over now? Can we just call him the best foreigner and leave it at that? Can we do that AND stop the "Stephano is not code s level" nonsense? Now that would be great. Maybe if you tell me what he proved tonight that made him Code S level? 2-0ing Hack, a player who ISN'T Code S level? Going 1-4 against Innovation, being read like a book and demolished, a player who IS Code S level? IF Stephano makes it back to Code S then I'll consider him it, until then, no, he's just the best foreigner. that's a little harsh? hack as far as i know qualified for code S fair and square? he deserved to be in that group, and whilst he was clearly one of the weaker 32 players, had still earn't his right to be there, also, I didn't see stephano getting "demolished" by innovation? I saw an innovation was was better prepared and superior in terms of tactical choice, but in terms of ability i think stephano held his own and more (see game 2 of the 2nd series)... everyone know's hypetrains are annoying, but anti-fan bias is just as irritating No, Stephano got 1-4'd. He won one game in 5, that is getting demolished. The 4 games Innovation won weren't even close. Stephano got STOMPED by Innovation, you can't twist that. Youre so god damn angry. If Stephano won that game, they would have been 2:3 but Stephano advancing. Who's the better player then? Would Stephano have been "beaten" by Innovation yet be in the RO16 instead? Yeah but that didn't happen. So... so stephano got cheesed 3 out of 4 games, he didn't scout therefore lost. why is everybody trying to read too much into this? players who had similar or worse score than Stephano this season: Byul, Creator, Leenock, Sniper, Hyun, Yoda, Mvp, Ryung, Keen, Nestea those players didn't get 1% of the retarded hate Stephano gets. get the fuck out with the idiotic hate. yeah he lost, you hate his fanboys, ok. you hate him because of his fanboys?? then you're simply stupid (this wasn't aimed at shaddar, rather in general). he beat Bogus in a long macro game convincingly, but got punished for his lack of scouting, still proved he is no slouch. no need to be retarded about the matter I would argue that those players don't get 1% of the retarded hate Stephano gets, because they don't get 1% of the retarded hype he gets. Losing in the early game is still losing; and it isn't like Stephano can blame imbalance or map selection on his loss. He lost purely because he does not put enough effort into scouting, or he thinks he doesn't need to. Anyway, you kids take care, goodnight. so what exactly motivated you to reply me after I said he got beaten due to bad scouting and didn't say anything about maps? you hate him because of his fanboys?? then you're simply stupid you draw the conclusion. | ||
Vertigro
United Kingdom261 Posts
On February 01 2013 22:30 Weirdkid wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 22:27 Lunareste wrote: On February 01 2013 22:23 totauksz wrote: On February 01 2013 22:14 Shaddar wrote: On February 01 2013 22:12 liberate71 wrote: On February 01 2013 22:08 Flinch wrote: On February 01 2013 22:05 Vertigro wrote: On February 01 2013 22:01 Flinch wrote: On February 01 2013 21:54 Awesomeness wrote: On February 01 2013 21:52 sitromit wrote: Is the "Stephano could win GSL" nonsense finally over now? Can we just call him the best foreigner and leave it at that? Can we do that AND stop the "Stephano is not code s level" nonsense? Now that would be great. Maybe if you tell me what he proved tonight that made him Code S level? 2-0ing Hack, a player who ISN'T Code S level? Going 1-4 against Innovation, being read like a book and demolished, a player who IS Code S level? IF Stephano makes it back to Code S then I'll consider him it, until then, no, he's just the best foreigner. that's a little harsh? hack as far as i know qualified for code S fair and square? he deserved to be in that group, and whilst he was clearly one of the weaker 32 players, had still earn't his right to be there, also, I didn't see stephano getting "demolished" by innovation? I saw an innovation was was better prepared and superior in terms of tactical choice, but in terms of ability i think stephano held his own and more (see game 2 of the 2nd series)... everyone know's hypetrains are annoying, but anti-fan bias is just as irritating No, Stephano got 1-4'd. He won one game in 5, that is getting demolished. The 4 games Innovation won weren't even close. Stephano got STOMPED by Innovation, you can't twist that. Youre so god damn angry. If Stephano won that game, they would have been 2:3 but Stephano advancing. Who's the better player then? Would Stephano have been "beaten" by Innovation yet be in the RO16 instead? Yeah but that didn't happen. So... so stephano got cheesed 3 out of 4 games, he didn't scout therefore lost. why is everybody trying to read too much into this? players who had similar or worse score than Stephano this season: Byul, Creator, Leenock, Sniper, Hyun, Yoda, Mvp, Ryung, Keen, Nestea those players didn't get 1% of the retarded hate Stephano gets. get the fuck out with the idiotic hate. yeah he lost, you hate his fanboys, ok. you hate him because of his fanboys?? then you're simply stupid (this wasn't aimed at shaddar, rather in general). he beat Bogus in a long macro game convincingly, but got punished for his lack of scouting, still proved he is no slouch. no need to be retarded about the matter I would argue that those players don't get 1% of the retarded hate Stephano gets, because they don't get 1% of the retarded hype he gets. Losing in the early game is still losing; and it isn't like Stephano can blame imbalance or map selection on his loss. He lost purely because he does not put enough effort into scouting, or he thinks he doesn't need to. Anyway, you kids take care, goodnight. How old are you to be able to address the forum in general as kids 0.o older than time... | ||
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