[Code S] RO32 Group H 2013 GSL Season 1 - Page 188

On February 02 2013 19:10 Dirkinity wrote:
Stephano played terrible. Such a shame for every foreigner. If this is the best foreigners can show - better not invite foreigners again.

On February 04 2013 09:03 dcemuser wrote:


He did alright given the competition. Your reaction is just as much an overreaction as that of the rabid fanboys - just in the opposite direction.

On February 04 2013 09:27 BackSideAttack wrote:


There's nothing wrong with what he said. Purely skill wise Stephano does not deserve a Code S seed. The only reason he gets a seed is because he brings viewers. From a business standpoint GSL should continue to invite foreigners, but to argue that foreigners deserve code s seeds through their skill and the fact that they "did alright given the competition" is just blind fanboyism.

On February 04 2013 09:39 bittman wrote:


Well saying "skill wise Stephano does not deserve a Code S seed" is pretty much fanboyism in the opposite direction still given the sheer number of times Stephano has proved himself to be on par with high tier Korean competition. But "skill" is such a subjective thing. Ask anyone and they'll have a different interpretation of it.

I 100% agree on the foreigners for Code S seeds being a business thing over a skill thing though. I'm sure if GSL could they'd invite WhiteRa and Grubby every day of the week. If Scarlett stays in Korea for long enough they'll throw her a seed regardless of how well she's playing at the time. Even if only U/D. I wouldn't be shocked if they even throw a U/D seed to Thorzain or Demuslim next season whilst they're in Korea. Regardless of how well they're playing.

On February 04 2013 09:56 BackSideAttack wrote:


Not really, if you look at Stephano's recent results, how many of them have come at events with really heavy Korean competition? Don't say LSC2, because the competition there was mediocre.

Lets put it this way. If there was a hypothetical competition where everyone gets to choose 1 person not in Code S to get a Code S seed and if that person wins Code S, you get 100k, how many people would honestly pick stephano??

Sometimes i just wish that Kespa would take over and not have to rely on inviting foreigners to generate the views necessary to stay afloat as a business.

On February 04 2013 10:06 bittman wrote:


In that hypothetical I can't think of anyone I would pick anyway. Like. I'm wracking my brains. Maybe some kespa protoss players? sOs, Rain or herO. Flash of course. But even then. And I think a lot of people would pick Stephano. Fanboys or not, he's not as much a longshot as almost any other foreigner even despite poorer recent results.

I also don't mind the idea of Kespa buying out GOM + ESF as noted by FXO_Boss's blog some time ago. As it is Gom isn't doing enough with their numbers anyway since they don't release them which is bad for sponsorship.

On February 04 2013 10:14 BackSideAttack wrote:


OK let me rephrase the hypothetical. Let's say every viewer HAS to pick a player. And that player has to make it to the ro16, or else you lose 100k.

Rather than not earning a substantial sum of money for fanboyism, you can actually lose money. How many people would actually pick Stephano, over players like Rain, herO, or Flash, etc?

I would be highly surprised if anyone picked stephano, unless they could afford to lose 100k for their fanboyism. Also being better than other foreigners doesn't make you a safe bet, when there's so many excellent Koreans still left in the pool.

On February 04 2013 09:50 RowdierBob wrote:
Stephano did really well. He was one win away from the group of 16 and some are making out as though he was bounced like a complete noob who didn't belong.

Bogus hit him with two really solid builds. It happens. I think Stephano more than showed he belongs in Code S.

On February 04 2013 09:00 AxiomBlurr wrote:


Called it...was great being in studio...

Stephano played the best he can - but was far too predictable, the build Bogus pulled on the last map is custom made to rock the socks off that style of Z (and yes Stephano had his socks rocked). The Frenchman could learn a lot from studying Life.

On February 04 2013 10:14 BackSideAttack wrote:


OK let me rephrase the hypothetical. Let's say every viewer HAS to pick a player. And that player has to make it to the ro16, or else you lose 100k.

Rather than not earning a substantial sum of money for fanboyism, you can actually lose money. How many people would actually pick Stephano, over players like Rain, herO, or Flash, etc?

I would be highly surprised if anyone picked stephano, unless they could afford to lose 100k for their fanboyism. Also being better than other foreigners doesn't make you a safe bet, when there's so many excellent Koreans still left in the pool.

On February 02 2013 19:14 Novs wrote:

Stephano played beautifully in all the games he wasn't all inned on. That first game was probably the best sc2 match I've seen in at least a year.

Yes he has holes in his play, which can be said of anyone, but his mechanics are obviously code S material, saying anything else is just straight biased.