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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
December 16 2012 09:51 GMT
#2961
On December 16 2012 18:47 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:45 iDoMiNaTe2.0 wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:42 booksmartguy wrote:
EG won two matches, and TL only won one.


'? lol who cares they still lost its not about EG vs TL


Haha classic people still make it eg vs tl even when its eg + tl

I imagine its because people have some sort of "because only one team is cursed. If TL had all that dirty EG money, they would have won a GSTL by now. But unfortunately one cannot fight against evil. Especially cursed evil" attitude.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25439 Posts
December 16 2012 09:51 GMT
#2962
On December 16 2012 18:49 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:48 ELA wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:47 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:44 ELA wrote:
Seriously, prepicked players, yet all players on EG-TL played in their worst matchup today.. Hwanni needs to smarten up and stop just playing players depending on maps

Today there's no excuse; he had the number of good players to be able to get this right


Are you kidding me? Huk's best is PvP, and JYP got to play vs Effort who has the worst ZvP win ratio on the planet. Things couldn't have gone better for EG-TL. They just straight up lost.


LOL - hardly my chinese friend

I think they drew pretty good matchups overall. maybe switch taeja and hero, but otherwise it was pretty good for the unholy alliance

Draws weren't too bad at all. The Proleague games seem to often be quite one-sided because they are such high-level games, one mistake can end up costing you dear.

I'm curious to see what EGTL throw out in terms of lineups later in this tournament. HerO's if anything got vT as his best matchup nowadays, Jaedong is quite an unknown quantity but seems to be very good at Z mirror, I'm not actually even sure what most of the lineup's best matchups actually [i]are[i/] at this moment in time.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
December 16 2012 09:51 GMT
#2963
I hope we see Sea when the next round of match up are released. Unless they have a lot of in house rankings or something I can't see Huk/Thorzain being better than him atm.
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
December 16 2012 09:52 GMT
#2964
EG-TL is really good and they played the two best PL teams right off the bat, but they definitely need work. Huk's match was iffy, but Thorzain and Hero both made some pretty questionable moves. It might be nerves or maybe just the situation (jet lag and all), but they gotta do something. a team with this much talent should not go to waste (trust me, I'm a Chargers fan).

Taeja played really well, JYP is clutch, and Jaedong is awesome. with Revival, Zenio, Puma, and Stephano, this team should be theoretically unbeatable. I still expect great things in the future, but they have to step it up.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
December 16 2012 09:52 GMT
#2965
On December 16 2012 18:38 ceaRshaf wrote:
They need Stephano to manage a win. Taeja only brought it to Ace.


I can't wait to see what other excuses they bring up after sending out Stephano and lose.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 09:53:40
December 16 2012 09:52 GMT
#2966
On December 16 2012 18:49 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:48 ELA wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:47 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:44 ELA wrote:
Seriously, prepicked players, yet all players on EG-TL played in their worst matchup today.. Hwanni needs to smarten up and stop just playing players depending on maps

Today there's no excuse; he had the number of good players to be able to get this right


Are you kidding me? Huk's best is PvP, and JYP got to play vs Effort who has the worst ZvP win ratio on the planet. Things couldn't have gone better for EG-TL. They just straight up lost.


LOL - hardly my chinese friend

I think they drew pretty good matchups overall. maybe switch taeja and hero, but otherwise it was pretty good for the unholy alliance


Exactly. They definitely drew good matchups considering that the other team's staff is also trying to draw best matchup for their players and snipe opposing players etc.

CJ definitely didn't have an edge in the matchups. Could it have been even better for EGTL? In theory yes, realistically not really.
proofy
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada283 Posts
December 16 2012 09:53 GMT
#2967
On December 16 2012 18:52 sc2superfan101 wrote:
EG-TL is really good and they played the two best PL teams right off the bat, but they definitely need work. Huk's match was iffy, but Thorzain and Hero both made some pretty questionable moves. It might be nerves or maybe just the situation (jet lag and all), but they gotta do something. a team with this much talent should not go to waste (trust me, I'm a Chargers fan).

Taeja played really well, JYP is clutch, and Jaedong is awesome. with Revival, Zenio, Puma, and Stephano, this team should be theoretically unbeatable. I still expect great things in the future, but they have to step it up.

I read that EG-TL was the best PL team coming into this season.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 16 2012 09:53 GMT
#2968
so PL weekend is not quite over yet!

[SPL] KT Rolster vs. Woongjin Stars R1 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17222393
[SPL] Team 8 vs. SKT T1 R1 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17222452

LRs for tomorrow, anyone wanna? :D
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
December 16 2012 09:54 GMT
#2969
On December 16 2012 18:52 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:49 opterown wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:48 ELA wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:47 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:44 ELA wrote:
Seriously, prepicked players, yet all players on EG-TL played in their worst matchup today.. Hwanni needs to smarten up and stop just playing players depending on maps

Today there's no excuse; he had the number of good players to be able to get this right


Are you kidding me? Huk's best is PvP, and JYP got to play vs Effort who has the worst ZvP win ratio on the planet. Things couldn't have gone better for EG-TL. They just straight up lost.


LOL - hardly my chinese friend

I think they drew pretty good matchups overall. maybe switch taeja and hero, but otherwise it was pretty good for the unholy alliance


Exactly. They definitely drew good matchups considering that the other team's staff is also trying to draw best matchup for their players and snipe opposing players etc.

CJ definitely didn't have an edge in the matchups. Could it have been better of EGTL? In theory yes, realistically not really.

The Hero v. Hydra match will keep Jaedong fuming till next week.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25439 Posts
December 16 2012 09:54 GMT
#2970
On December 16 2012 18:53 proofy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:52 sc2superfan101 wrote:
EG-TL is really good and they played the two best PL teams right off the bat, but they definitely need work. Huk's match was iffy, but Thorzain and Hero both made some pretty questionable moves. It might be nerves or maybe just the situation (jet lag and all), but they gotta do something. a team with this much talent should not go to waste (trust me, I'm a Chargers fan).

Taeja played really well, JYP is clutch, and Jaedong is awesome. with Revival, Zenio, Puma, and Stephano, this team should be theoretically unbeatable. I still expect great things in the future, but they have to step it up.

I read that EG-TL was the best PL team coming into this season.

They were, based on historical results of their roster and the relatively unknown shape of the Kespa rosters.

Anyone who trashes that assessment in hindsight is being a bit of an idiot imo.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
evergreensc
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
December 16 2012 09:54 GMT
#2971
God I love CJ.

That smile from herO made me crack a grin myself. :D
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 16 2012 09:54 GMT
#2972
On December 16 2012 18:54 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:52 Talin wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:49 opterown wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:48 ELA wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:47 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:44 ELA wrote:
Seriously, prepicked players, yet all players on EG-TL played in their worst matchup today.. Hwanni needs to smarten up and stop just playing players depending on maps

Today there's no excuse; he had the number of good players to be able to get this right


Are you kidding me? Huk's best is PvP, and JYP got to play vs Effort who has the worst ZvP win ratio on the planet. Things couldn't have gone better for EG-TL. They just straight up lost.


LOL - hardly my chinese friend

I think they drew pretty good matchups overall. maybe switch taeja and hero, but otherwise it was pretty good for the unholy alliance


Exactly. They definitely drew good matchups considering that the other team's staff is also trying to draw best matchup for their players and snipe opposing players etc.

CJ definitely didn't have an edge in the matchups. Could it have been better of EGTL? In theory yes, realistically not really.

The Hero v. Hydra match will keep Jaedong fuming till next week.

both huk and thorzain could have won their games too if they played a bit better imo
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 16 2012 09:55 GMT
#2973
On December 16 2012 18:54 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:53 proofy wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:52 sc2superfan101 wrote:
EG-TL is really good and they played the two best PL teams right off the bat, but they definitely need work. Huk's match was iffy, but Thorzain and Hero both made some pretty questionable moves. It might be nerves or maybe just the situation (jet lag and all), but they gotta do something. a team with this much talent should not go to waste (trust me, I'm a Chargers fan).

Taeja played really well, JYP is clutch, and Jaedong is awesome. with Revival, Zenio, Puma, and Stephano, this team should be theoretically unbeatable. I still expect great things in the future, but they have to step it up.

I read that EG-TL was the best PL team coming into this season.

They were, based on historical results of their roster and the relatively unknown shape of the Kespa rosters.

Anyone who trashes that assessment in hindsight is being a bit of an idiot imo.

i think huk paid fiona to write a pro-EG/TL article
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Destroyr
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany299 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 09:55:55
December 16 2012 09:55 GMT
#2974
You cant question the ace decision there was no alternative. Hero gets upset after loses and Jaedong has lost to often on ohana.

Maybe next time someone else is send but for now you cant question the decision to put teaja in.

But I would ask if you really have to play this wacky drop play. Thorzaine lost like 3 drops or something and didn't presure the front enough and also Teaja lost a double drop before he got crushed. Everything else was totally fine.

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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25439 Posts
December 16 2012 09:56 GMT
#2975
On December 16 2012 18:55 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:54 Wombat_NI wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:53 proofy wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:52 sc2superfan101 wrote:
EG-TL is really good and they played the two best PL teams right off the bat, but they definitely need work. Huk's match was iffy, but Thorzain and Hero both made some pretty questionable moves. It might be nerves or maybe just the situation (jet lag and all), but they gotta do something. a team with this much talent should not go to waste (trust me, I'm a Chargers fan).

Taeja played really well, JYP is clutch, and Jaedong is awesome. with Revival, Zenio, Puma, and Stephano, this team should be theoretically unbeatable. I still expect great things in the future, but they have to step it up.

I read that EG-TL was the best PL team coming into this season.

They were, based on historical results of their roster and the relatively unknown shape of the Kespa rosters.

Anyone who trashes that assessment in hindsight is being a bit of an idiot imo.

i think huk paid fiona to write a pro-EG/TL article

Doubt it, he would have had to also bribe Fionn not to shoehorn in a Polt reference Not sure even Huk's salary stretches that far
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
iDoMiNaTe2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
288 Posts
December 16 2012 09:56 GMT
#2976
Sorry, but LiquidHero game had 0 to do with jet lag not practicing or whatever question anyone can think of Hydra basically did what you are suppose to do when you play a opponent scout their playing styles and try to find weaknesses. Hydra knew he wouldn't wall off on that map that he always forge in main so bang i make 19 drones and all in with lings and do back flips n shit gg.

Thorzain played well imo, but didn't think about a possible run by? he played well tho I think he will be the first foreigner to win in SPL
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
December 16 2012 09:57 GMT
#2977
On December 16 2012 18:52 chosenkerrigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:38 ceaRshaf wrote:
They need Stephano to manage a win. Taeja only brought it to Ace.


I can't wait to see what other excuses they bring up after sending out Stephano and lose.


But if they had Stephano tonight then they wouldn't have lost. Him in place of HuK or Thorzain + as Ace if necessary and it would have been a sure win.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 09:58:13
December 16 2012 09:57 GMT
#2978
On December 16 2012 18:52 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:49 opterown wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:48 ELA wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:47 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:44 ELA wrote:
Seriously, prepicked players, yet all players on EG-TL played in their worst matchup today.. Hwanni needs to smarten up and stop just playing players depending on maps

Today there's no excuse; he had the number of good players to be able to get this right


Are you kidding me? Huk's best is PvP, and JYP got to play vs Effort who has the worst ZvP win ratio on the planet. Things couldn't have gone better for EG-TL. They just straight up lost.


LOL - hardly my chinese friend

I think they drew pretty good matchups overall. maybe switch taeja and hero, but otherwise it was pretty good for the unholy alliance


Exactly. They definitely drew good matchups considering that the other team's staff is also trying to draw best matchup for their players and snipe opposing players etc.

CJ definitely didn't have an edge in the matchups. Could it have been even better for EGTL? In theory yes, realistically not really.


CJ also used their rookies , but i guess EGTL returned the favour by using Huk and Thorzain . I was scared , because i don't know what to expect from Bong and SongDuri and both didn't look like they are up to Proleague standart at this point . Had CJ played Skyhigh and Snow i would have been a lot more confident about this match . Thank god for herO[join] saving the match .
daskilla
Profile Joined July 2010
Latvia141 Posts
December 16 2012 09:57 GMT
#2979
Sorry for offtopic, but I have to ask this somewere. If I subscribe for HD stream now, for how long subscibation will last?
GunPaladin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 09:58:38
December 16 2012 09:57 GMT
#2980
On December 16 2012 18:52 sc2superfan101 wrote:


Taeja played really well, JYP is clutch, and Jaedong is awesome. with Revival, Zenio, Puma, and Stephano, this team should be theoretically unbeatable. I still expect great things in the future, but they have to step it up.


I agree, I love huk and thorzain but even with the hero fail, we would've seen our first win had any of the four players mentioned been used instead of the two. But I guess this speaks more to EG-TL's goals. Are they here to win or are they here to pull in more sponsors?
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