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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 16 2012 09:58 GMT
#2981
On December 16 2012 18:57 daskilla wrote:
Sorry for offtopic, but I have to ask this somewere. If I subscribe for HD stream now, for how long subscibation will last?

alll seasoonnnnnnnn!
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booksmartguy
Profile Joined December 2012
United States45 Posts
December 16 2012 09:58 GMT
#2982
On December 16 2012 18:57 daskilla wrote:
Sorry for offtopic, but I have to ask this somewere. If I subscribe for HD stream now, for how long subscibation will last?


Entire season, I guess 7 months.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 16 2012 09:59 GMT
#2983
first five vods are up
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3
Game 4
Game 5
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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 10:03:26
December 16 2012 09:59 GMT
#2984
On December 16 2012 18:57 GunPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:52 sc2superfan101 wrote:


Taeja played really well, JYP is clutch, and Jaedong is awesome. with Revival, Zenio, Puma, and Stephano, this team should be theoretically unbeatable. I still expect great things in the future, but they have to step it up.


I agree, I love huk and thorzain but even with the hero fail, we would've seen our first win had any of the four players mentioned been used instead of the two. But I guess this speaks more to EG-TL's goals. Are they here to win or are they here to pull in more sponsors?


Don't forget that CJ also has Skyhigh and Snow who are arguably better then Bong and SongDuri . EGTL should start winning , but lets face it , they are not the favourites over any other team as pointed out in the Proleague preview article .
phiRa
Profile Joined March 2012
United States35 Posts
December 16 2012 10:00 GMT
#2985
Tough loss, but I'm at least glad they put up a fight in the end and didn't get 4-0'd after going up 2-0. HerO lost in a similar way to how JYP did last week, just wasn't prepared for that early aggression even though he should've been. I can't believe so many people were doubting JYP on stream and forum. Dude is a zerg killer/sniper and former code-s player, not like he's a scrub or anything.

Anyway, good to see that a full EGTL team with heavy hitters can compete with the best of other proleague teams and that last week was more due to circumstances. Still waiting to see PuMa play. I think his aggressive play style will be really good in proleague. Also will be fun to watch as JD gets better and better at sc2. I enjoyed watching his win earlier today.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 16 2012 10:00 GMT
#2986
On December 16 2012 18:57 raga4ka wrote:
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On December 16 2012 18:52 Talin wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:49 opterown wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:48 ELA wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:47 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:44 ELA wrote:
Seriously, prepicked players, yet all players on EG-TL played in their worst matchup today.. Hwanni needs to smarten up and stop just playing players depending on maps

Today there's no excuse; he had the number of good players to be able to get this right


Are you kidding me? Huk's best is PvP, and JYP got to play vs Effort who has the worst ZvP win ratio on the planet. Things couldn't have gone better for EG-TL. They just straight up lost.


LOL - hardly my chinese friend

I think they drew pretty good matchups overall. maybe switch taeja and hero, but otherwise it was pretty good for the unholy alliance


Exactly. They definitely drew good matchups considering that the other team's staff is also trying to draw best matchup for their players and snipe opposing players etc.

CJ definitely didn't have an edge in the matchups. Could it have been even better for EGTL? In theory yes, realistically not really.


CJ also used their rookies , but i guess EGTL returned the favour by using Huk and Thorzain . I was scared , because i don't know what to expect from Bong and SongDuri and both didn't look like they are up to Proleague standart at this point . Had CJ played Skyhigh and Snow i would have been a lot more confident about this match . Thank god for herO[join] saving the match .


Yeah, it was really weird that Skyhigh didn't play. I suppose there's a pretty good reason why Snow doesn't play for 3 weeks in a row though.
synaptik
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada644 Posts
December 16 2012 10:01 GMT
#2987
anyone has a link to the full schedule? who does EGTL play next?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 16 2012 10:01 GMT
#2988
On December 16 2012 18:59 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:57 GunPaladin wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:52 sc2superfan101 wrote:


Taeja played really well, JYP is clutch, and Jaedong is awesome. with Revival, Zenio, Puma, and Stephano, this team should be theoretically unbeatable. I still expect great things in the future, but they have to step it up.


I agree, I love huk and thorzain but even with the hero fail, we would've seen our first win had any of the four players mentioned been used instead of the two. But I guess this speaks more to EG-TL's goals. Are they here to win or are they here to pull in more sponsors?


Don't forget that CJ also has Skyhigh and Snow who are arguably better then Bong and SongDuri .

how good is snow? i don't think i've seen him play, but his TLPD is not quite promising haha
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/652_Snow/games
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Destroyr
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany299 Posts
December 16 2012 10:01 GMT
#2989
On December 16 2012 18:56 iDoMiNaTe2.0 wrote:
Sorry, but LiquidHero game had 0 to do with jet lag not practicing or whatever question anyone can think of Hydra basically did what you are suppose to do when you play a opponent scout their playing styles and try to find weaknesses. Hydra knew he wouldn't wall off on that map that he always forge in main so bang i make 19 drones and all in with lings and do back flips n shit gg.

Thorzain played well imo, but didn't think about a possible run by? he played well tho I think he will be the first foreigner to win in SPL


You are probably right. I still believe that this team has the best line up - even if some guys are missing. Everything else is just maps and strategy. On paper EGTL is the best team. I don't think that many Kespa players can compete with Code S level play in a normal game (just based on results AND the builds they are playing). Lots of tricks and lots of mindgame PL best 1 format the way to go and adapt.

It would be really nice to see some clan wars between those guys and GSL teams though.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 10:02:08
December 16 2012 10:01 GMT
#2990
On December 16 2012 19:01 synaptik wrote:
anyone has a link to the full schedule? who does EGTL play next?

tuesday against samsung, see http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012-2013_Proleague/Round_1
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T.O.P
Profile Joined December 2012
469 Posts
December 16 2012 10:02 GMT
#2991
CJ was the under dog going into these matches so i was cheering for them! Why i say CJ are the uderdog because EG-TL have been playing starcraft 2 longer then Kespea players/teams. GG GL!
I'm not the real T.O.P just a fan!
proofy
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada283 Posts
December 16 2012 10:02 GMT
#2992
Is this team living together or is everyone just doing their own thing on the ladder coming into these matches?
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 10:07:11
December 16 2012 10:02 GMT
#2993
On December 16 2012 18:57 Exarl25 wrote:
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On December 16 2012 18:52 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:38 ceaRshaf wrote:
They need Stephano to manage a win. Taeja only brought it to Ace.


I can't wait to see what other excuses they bring up after sending out Stephano and lose.


But if they had Stephano tonight then they wouldn't have lost. Him in place of HuK or Thorzain + as Ace if necessary and it would have been a sure win.


You made it sound like Stephano is a player far superior to Hero/Taeja when in fact he isn't. And no there is no such thing as "sure win" in SC2. Stephano, even in ZvP, is as vulnerable as anyone else nowadays and I could definitely see him lose to herO, and it's hardly even an upset.
rqPlan
Profile Joined December 2011
Nicaragua42 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 10:07:06
December 16 2012 10:03 GMT
#2994
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Oh, nevermind
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ardi
Profile Joined February 2012
United States187 Posts
December 16 2012 10:05 GMT
#2995
On December 16 2012 18:59 opterown wrote:
first five vods are up
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3
Game 4
Game 5



that was fast.
Doors block the thrust of life!!!!
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
December 16 2012 10:06 GMT
#2996
On December 16 2012 19:02 T.O.P wrote:
CJ was the under dog going into these matches so i was cheering for them! Why i say CJ are the uderdog because EG-TL have been playing starcraft 2 longer then Kespea players/teams. GG GL!

nice alt account T.O.P.

"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
December 16 2012 10:06 GMT
#2997
On December 16 2012 18:59 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:57 GunPaladin wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:52 sc2superfan101 wrote:


Taeja played really well, JYP is clutch, and Jaedong is awesome. with Revival, Zenio, Puma, and Stephano, this team should be theoretically unbeatable. I still expect great things in the future, but they have to step it up.


I agree, I love huk and thorzain but even with the hero fail, we would've seen our first win had any of the four players mentioned been used instead of the two. But I guess this speaks more to EG-TL's goals. Are they here to win or are they here to pull in more sponsors?


Don't forget that CJ also has Skyhigh and Snow who are arguably better then Bong and SongDuri . EGTL should start winning , but lets face it , they are not the favourites over any other team as pointed out in the Proleague preview article .


They should beat Khan and Team8, but other than that it ll be very hard to get a high finish at this point.

RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 10:07:42
December 16 2012 10:06 GMT
#2998
On December 16 2012 18:57 GunPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:52 sc2superfan101 wrote:


Taeja played really well, JYP is clutch, and Jaedong is awesome. with Revival, Zenio, Puma, and Stephano, this team should be theoretically unbeatable. I still expect great things in the future, but they have to step it up.


I agree, I love huk and thorzain but even with the hero fail, we would've seen our first win had any of the four players mentioned been used instead of the two. But I guess this speaks more to EG-TL's goals. Are they here to win or are they here to pull in more sponsors?

You're seriously deluded if you think Zenio would've made a difference. 'Theoretically unbeatable'...not knowing most of the kespa players doesn't mean they're walkovers. I see a roster with some great players and some very mediocre ones, a small coaching staff and a team training environment (if there even is one) that's almost certainly not as productive and well-oiled as those of the kespa teams.

Excuses like they were just trying to draw sponsors is silly, winning draws sponsors.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
December 16 2012 10:08 GMT
#2999
On December 16 2012 19:01 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:59 raga4ka wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:57 GunPaladin wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:52 sc2superfan101 wrote:


Taeja played really well, JYP is clutch, and Jaedong is awesome. with Revival, Zenio, Puma, and Stephano, this team should be theoretically unbeatable. I still expect great things in the future, but they have to step it up.


I agree, I love huk and thorzain but even with the hero fail, we would've seen our first win had any of the four players mentioned been used instead of the two. But I guess this speaks more to EG-TL's goals. Are they here to win or are they here to pull in more sponsors?


Don't forget that CJ also has Skyhigh and Snow who are arguably better then Bong and SongDuri .

how good is snow? i don't think i've seen him play, but his TLPD is not quite promising haha
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/652_Snow/games
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As bad as Leta and Snow probably are for not playing , i still feel more confident with them playing do to their bigger experience then the likes of Bong and SongDuri . I don't know at what level they are though .
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
December 16 2012 10:08 GMT
#3000
On December 16 2012 19:02 chosenkerrigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:57 Exarl25 wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:52 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:38 ceaRshaf wrote:
They need Stephano to manage a win. Taeja only brought it to Ace.


I can't wait to see what other excuses they bring up after sending out Stephano and lose.


But if they had Stephano tonight then they wouldn't have lost. Him in place of HuK or Thorzain + as Ace if necessary and it would have been a sure win.


You made it sound like Stephano is a player far superior to Hero/Taeja when in fact he isn't. And no there is no such thing as "sure win" in SC2. Stephano, even in ZvP, is as vulnerable as anyone else nowadays. It just took too long for his fans to realize and accept this.


The thing about Stephano is that he never gets nervous. He never chokes, ever. Having a rock like that who simply will not crumble under pressure is massive. In an ace match situation he is far superior to Hero or Taeja just because of that, neither played anywhere close to their best tonight.
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