• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 18:38
CET 00:38
KST 08:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced8[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle [Alpha Pro Series] Nice vs Cure RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
Which season is the best in ASL? A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone BW General Discussion soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[BSL21] RO16 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Earnings: Bigger Pri…
TrAiDoS
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2215 users

[WCS] Global Finals Day 2 - Page 387

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 385 386 387 388 389 403 Next
Kitaen
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria466 Posts
November 18 2012 12:06 GMT
#7721
On November 18 2012 21:01 Ronin2011 wrote:
1th Protoss
2nd Protoss
3rd Protoss

Nerf Zerg.. they're so OP!
Let's hope Blizzard reconsider hearing bronze player voices...


new account? have you been banned already for comments like this?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
November 18 2012 12:06 GMT
#7722
On November 18 2012 21:03 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:01 Ronin2011 wrote:
1th Protoss
2nd Protoss
3rd Protoss

Nerf Zerg.. they're so OP!
Let's hope Blizzard reconsider hearing bronze player voices...


Let's judge balance based on the results of one tournament.

but the winner of this tournament is supposed to be the best player in the world, therefore 2nd should be 2nd best and 3rd should be 3rd best, it's the perfect tournament to use to determine balance!
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
November 18 2012 12:06 GMT
#7723
On November 18 2012 21:05 Weavel wrote:
Overall this tounament was a massive disappointment. Expected so much but got so little. Thankfully Dreamhack winter and IPL 5 can show how great tournament is made.

Don't forget IronSquid as well. Their playerlist is sick.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
November 18 2012 12:06 GMT
#7724
Knock the tournament all you want, I guess. Blizzard actually tried something to help eSports a little, and though they didn't do it perfectly, I still really enjoyed the tournament. Some quality games. The only real disappointment for me was a lack of korean Terrans.

Thanks for a fun tournament Blizzard. Really got to see the community rally around one event again, was great to see. ^^
Long live the King of Wings
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
November 18 2012 12:06 GMT
#7725
On November 18 2012 21:06 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:03 RyuuZer0 wrote:
It's not uncommon that the "best" player doesn't win the world championship. This isn't limited to e-sports, it happens pretty often in other sports too where the team/player that wins the world championships may not be the undisputed "best in the world".

That said, Parting has proven he's a great player, so while he may not be the "best" at this very moment I have no problems accepting that he won a world championship. I think he was the best in the tournament on the day, so he deserves the win.


when Greece won the Euro, ppl called them the Euro champions, not the best team in Europe


It's not like Parting was not a top player before.
ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 12:08:07
November 18 2012 12:07 GMT
#7726
On November 18 2012 21:03 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:02 Chill Penguin wrote:
My 2c

Did Parting deserve it? Yes
Did Parting get very lucky? Yes
Is Parting the best in the world? Definitely not.
How was the tournament overall? Disappointing.


People are having such a high standards nowadays.


How dare we expect a tournament with a high quality stream that isn't riddled with sounds and lag issues, and a player pool that can provide entertaining and memorable games.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
November 18 2012 12:07 GMT
#7727
Yeeeha ! Good job PartinG !

Also, loved the Starcrafts between games !
LiquipediaWanderer
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
November 18 2012 12:07 GMT
#7728
On November 18 2012 20:53 dainbramage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:51 Seiniyta wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:50 dainbramage wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:49 polishedturd wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:48 TheSwedishFan wrote:
This was by far the best event of the year. Amazing job with the production and the hype throughout the day. The ceremony was cool. Gangnamn style ftw! =D


i mean, i enjoyed this, really, but come on man. shit was a mess at times

Bitterdam's conversation when they didn't think they were on air is clearly what made this the best event of the year.


What did they talk about?

You missed it?


Haha. I can imagine Rotti and Bitter's faces as soon as they realized.
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
November 18 2012 12:07 GMT
#7729
On November 18 2012 21:04 Lunchador wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:57 S_SienZ wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:54 nonsequitur wrote:
Yeah, all this bitching about Parting not deserving of the trophy is really inane. Do you feel Barcelona don't deserve to win the Champions League because they didn't play against Real Madrid or any of the other top clubs? Will you only be satisfied if the champion beats every single pro player? If so, why even watch tournaments then?

No one is saying he doesn't deserve the trophy. We're saying he's not "THE BEST IN TEH WORLD"


So what do you get for proving with your extensive amounts of "evidence and facts" that Parting isn't the best in the world, and that he does not deserve to win the WCS? And why should I give a @#$% if you are right or not? If Flash was bonjwa in BW, why couldn't even he get more than 3 OSLs?

To me, Parting today is the "best player in the world". That title may or may not disappear down the line quickly, and life just goes on. That's just how things work out.

No one is fucking saying that.

And no one is saying you should care either. This is a forum. People post opinions, you must have confused this for the g6 summit or something.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 12:08:57
November 18 2012 12:07 GMT
#7730
On November 18 2012 21:00 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:52 IshinShishi wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:46 Jehct wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:42 Dodgin wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:40 Vandrad wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:39 Dodgin wrote:
Okay so in this tournament

Parting defeated

Illusion

Socke

Scarlett

Suppy

Sen

Creator

Only one Korean player and one Code A/B player.

Congrats on the easiest 100k of your life.


If it was os easy why didn't you won it?


I didn't say it was easy, I said it was the easiest 100k of his life.

Compare that run to winning two GSL's and getting second in another, which is what you would have to do to match the 100k prize money.

Compare the many tournaments where Stephano has made bank to an MLG...

prize money isn't equitable in eSports (at all). That said, this tournament had more barriers to entry (all the qualifiers, limited korean representatives) and demanded more consistency than almost any other. What more do you want?

Some (like Mvp) forfeited their spots, the truth is that very few of the koreans focused fully on wcs and instead tried to make something happen in the more immediate challenges, the quality of the games made this very clear, I can't even recall a single memorable game in this entire WCS.


They forfeited after losing, and going into losers bracket in the very first round. That doesnt give them credibility of any sort.

He played really badly to get to losers in the first place, to me this indicates he hardly prepared for the tournament, at all. But meh, this is a pointless discussion afterall, it just saddens me that some of you can believe that winning this was harder than winning any code S.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33494 Posts
November 18 2012 12:07 GMT
#7731
On November 18 2012 21:04 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:03 zanga wrote:
Lesson learned: Let dreamhack and Stockholm take care of it next year

Next year Blizzcon is back, So Blizzard will host it themselves.


I can still hope after they invited the DH guys to blizz HQ last week
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Solarist
Profile Joined September 2011
291 Posts
November 18 2012 12:07 GMT
#7732
On November 18 2012 21:04 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:03 zanga wrote:
Lesson learned: Let dreamhack and Stockholm take care of it next year


Nope.
Let GOM or OGN hold it in Korea.


For the love of all thats holy not OGN, thats some of the worst production we've seen all year.

Go GOM, or go home!
Desertfaux
Profile Joined June 2012
Netherlands276 Posts
November 18 2012 12:07 GMT
#7733
On November 18 2012 20:54 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:53 Desertfaux wrote:
Wow, I managed to arrive home and start up the stream literally 1 minute before it shut down, then I looked at the brackets, it was over. Even worse, it was over in the quarterfinals ever since hero lost, nothing for me to enjoy after that point. I'll be checking the vods for the Duran brothers and that will make a total of 8 games I will have caught of this tournament.

I hope you people enjoyed it at least! Hope the next one will be more for my timezone and have more people I want to root for.

Check Rains PvZs vs Killer and Sen. Those were some really amazing stomps. Creator vs Rain was also pretty good.


PvZ hahahah no thanks. I only care enough for Terran matchups and Team Liquid players to look back for. I'll let you folk enjoy PvZ while I do my own thing, thank you for the PvP though, those can be funny and I'll check it out. 250k tournament, 8 games and a PvP....
Rogue Deck
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
November 18 2012 12:07 GMT
#7734
On November 18 2012 21:00 Mirrikh wrote:
Easy road, except all those code S top tier koreans that should have been here to make it a tough road didn't make it.

Parting has been consistently good all year long (albeit never considered THE top player) and that's what makes you the winner of such a lengthy and prestigious tournament.


i guess what makes me uneasy is that the real tournament (kr qualifier) was played in august and sc2 shifts so quickly that parting winning is not really relevant to the current state of the game (leenock playing better, life as gsl champ, etc) if you also consider how mvp and mc didn't even bother playing through their loser bracket matches, the kr qualifier itself had very poor representation of the highest level of skill, except for perhaps protoss, and that was reflect in how pvp dominated this thing was. if there's one thing we can say, it's that parting has the best pvp in the world.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
November 18 2012 12:07 GMT
#7735
great tournament! enjoyed it a lot.
"Right on" - Morrow
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
November 18 2012 12:07 GMT
#7736
On November 18 2012 21:00 Waxangel wrote:
this is all tasteless' fault

you could tell Artosis was thinking "woah settle down there... let's not get crazy"
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
November 18 2012 12:08 GMT
#7737
On November 18 2012 21:04 opterown wrote:
some combination of IPL5 and GSL5 and Blizzard Cup should paint a clearer picture of the best player of 2012


I don't think there will be a clear picture of who is the best player of 2012.

MVP has 2 GSL finals(won one and runner-up) and IEM.
Leenock has 2 MLG finals( won one and runner-up in another).
Life won GSL and MLG.
Sun won WCS Asia and OSL.
Creator TSL4 Champion( this is online though) and WCS Korea Champion.



Play your best
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33494 Posts
November 18 2012 12:08 GMT
#7738
On November 18 2012 21:07 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:00 Waxangel wrote:
this is all tasteless' fault

you could tell Artosis was thinking "woah settle down there... let's not get crazy"


it's okay tho, they'll call whoever wins GSL 5 the best player in the world, they're always good at hyping their employer at the time
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Solarist
Profile Joined September 2011
291 Posts
November 18 2012 12:08 GMT
#7739
On November 18 2012 21:06 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:05 Weavel wrote:
Overall this tounament was a massive disappointment. Expected so much but got so little. Thankfully Dreamhack winter and IPL 5 can show how great tournament is made.

Don't forget IronSquid as well. Their playerlist is sick.

Yeah IronSquid is retarded, their playerlist is like GSL ro16 (just with less zerg)
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
November 18 2012 12:08 GMT
#7740
On November 18 2012 21:07 Desertfaux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:54 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:53 Desertfaux wrote:
Wow, I managed to arrive home and start up the stream literally 1 minute before it shut down, then I looked at the brackets, it was over. Even worse, it was over in the quarterfinals ever since hero lost, nothing for me to enjoy after that point. I'll be checking the vods for the Duran brothers and that will make a total of 8 games I will have caught of this tournament.

I hope you people enjoyed it at least! Hope the next one will be more for my timezone and have more people I want to root for.

Check Rains PvZs vs Killer and Sen. Those were some really amazing stomps. Creator vs Rain was also pretty good.


PvZ hahahah no thanks. I only care enough for Terran matchups and Team Liquid players to look back for. I'll let you folk enjoy PvZ while I do my own thing, thank you for the PvP though, those can be funny and I'll check it out. 250k tournament, 8 games and a PvP....


Well those games werent exactly your standard PvZs, cause i woudlnt recommend otherwise.
Prev 1 385 386 387 388 389 403 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
23:00
2025 KFC Monthly #3 - Day 2
Liquipedia
The PiG Daily
20:15
Best Games of SC
Clem vs Solar
Solar vs herO
herO vs ByuN
Reynor vs Nicoract
Clem vs herO
Solar vs MaxPax
PiGStarcraft504
LiquipediaDiscussion
LAN Event
18:00
LANified! 37: Groundswell
Discussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft504
White-Ra 249
CosmosSc2 27
PiLiPiLi 6
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3952
NaDa 22
Movie 19
IntoTheRainbow 8
Dota 2
syndereN289
Counter-Strike
byalli6884
Foxcn179
minikerr28
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox404
Other Games
summit1g8169
Grubby6603
tarik_tv3926
C9.Mang0135
ArmadaUGS119
ZombieGrub44
PPMD2
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream116
StarCraft 2
CranKy Ducklings87
Other Games
BasetradeTV79
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 24 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 72
• RyuSc2 69
• davetesta36
• HeavenSC 24
• Kozan
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki67
• RayReign 15
• mYiSmile111
• FirePhoenix8
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21320
• Ler87
League of Legends
• Doublelift3707
• HappyZerGling114
Other Games
• imaqtpie1032
• Scarra914
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
9h 23m
WardiTV Korean Royale
12h 23m
OSC
17h 23m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 10h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 12h
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
StarCraft2.fi
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
3 days
StarCraft2.fi
3 days
PiGosaur Monday
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
StarCraft2.fi
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.