On November 18 2012 21:01 Ronin2011 wrote: 1th Protoss 2nd Protoss 3rd Protoss
Nerf Zerg.. they're so OP! Let's hope Blizzard reconsider hearing bronze player voices...
Let's judge balance based on the results of one tournament.
but the winner of this tournament is supposed to be the best player in the world, therefore 2nd should be 2nd best and 3rd should be 3rd best, it's the perfect tournament to use to determine balance!
On November 18 2012 21:05 Weavel wrote: Overall this tounament was a massive disappointment. Expected so much but got so little. Thankfully Dreamhack winter and IPL 5 can show how great tournament is made.
Don't forget IronSquid as well. Their playerlist is sick.
Knock the tournament all you want, I guess. Blizzard actually tried something to help eSports a little, and though they didn't do it perfectly, I still really enjoyed the tournament. Some quality games. The only real disappointment for me was a lack of korean Terrans.
Thanks for a fun tournament Blizzard. Really got to see the community rally around one event again, was great to see. ^^
On November 18 2012 21:03 RyuuZer0 wrote: It's not uncommon that the "best" player doesn't win the world championship. This isn't limited to e-sports, it happens pretty often in other sports too where the team/player that wins the world championships may not be the undisputed "best in the world".
That said, Parting has proven he's a great player, so while he may not be the "best" at this very moment I have no problems accepting that he won a world championship. I think he was the best in the tournament on the day, so he deserves the win.
when Greece won the Euro, ppl called them the Euro champions, not the best team in Europe
It's not like Parting was not a top player before.
On November 18 2012 21:02 Chill Penguin wrote: My 2c
Did Parting deserve it? Yes Did Parting get very lucky? Yes Is Parting the best in the world? Definitely not. How was the tournament overall? Disappointing.
People are having such a high standards nowadays.
How dare we expect a tournament with a high quality stream that isn't riddled with sounds and lag issues, and a player pool that can provide entertaining and memorable games.
On November 18 2012 20:48 TheSwedishFan wrote: This was by far the best event of the year. Amazing job with the production and the hype throughout the day. The ceremony was cool. Gangnamn style ftw! =D
i mean, i enjoyed this, really, but come on man. shit was a mess at times
Bitterdam's conversation when they didn't think they were on air is clearly what made this the best event of the year.
What did they talk about?
You missed it?
Haha. I can imagine Rotti and Bitter's faces as soon as they realized.
On November 18 2012 20:54 nonsequitur wrote: Yeah, all this bitching about Parting not deserving of the trophy is really inane. Do you feel Barcelona don't deserve to win the Champions League because they didn't play against Real Madrid or any of the other top clubs? Will you only be satisfied if the champion beats every single pro player? If so, why even watch tournaments then?
No one is saying he doesn't deserve the trophy. We're saying he's not "THE BEST IN TEH WORLD"
So what do you get for proving with your extensive amounts of "evidence and facts" that Parting isn't the best in the world, and that he does not deserve to win the WCS? And why should I give a @#$% if you are right or not? If Flash was bonjwa in BW, why couldn't even he get more than 3 OSLs?
To me, Parting today is the "best player in the world". That title may or may not disappear down the line quickly, and life just goes on. That's just how things work out.
No one is fucking saying that.
And no one is saying you should care either. This is a forum. People post opinions, you must have confused this for the g6 summit or something.
On November 18 2012 20:39 Dodgin wrote: Okay so in this tournament
Parting defeated
Illusion
Socke
Scarlett
Suppy
Sen
Creator
Only one Korean player and one Code A/B player.
Congrats on the easiest 100k of your life.
If it was os easy why didn't you won it?
I didn't say it was easy, I said it was the easiest 100k of his life.
Compare that run to winning two GSL's and getting second in another, which is what you would have to do to match the 100k prize money.
Compare the many tournaments where Stephano has made bank to an MLG...
prize money isn't equitable in eSports (at all). That said, this tournament had more barriers to entry (all the qualifiers, limited korean representatives) and demanded more consistency than almost any other. What more do you want?
Some (like Mvp) forfeited their spots, the truth is that very few of the koreans focused fully on wcs and instead tried to make something happen in the more immediate challenges, the quality of the games made this very clear, I can't even recall a single memorable game in this entire WCS.
They forfeited after losing, and going into losers bracket in the very first round. That doesnt give them credibility of any sort.
He played really badly to get to losers in the first place, to me this indicates he hardly prepared for the tournament, at all. But meh, this is a pointless discussion afterall, it just saddens me that some of you can believe that winning this was harder than winning any code S.
On November 18 2012 20:53 Desertfaux wrote: Wow, I managed to arrive home and start up the stream literally 1 minute before it shut down, then I looked at the brackets, it was over. Even worse, it was over in the quarterfinals ever since hero lost, nothing for me to enjoy after that point. I'll be checking the vods for the Duran brothers and that will make a total of 8 games I will have caught of this tournament.
I hope you people enjoyed it at least! Hope the next one will be more for my timezone and have more people I want to root for.
Check Rains PvZs vs Killer and Sen. Those were some really amazing stomps. Creator vs Rain was also pretty good.
PvZ hahahah no thanks. I only care enough for Terran matchups and Team Liquid players to look back for. I'll let you folk enjoy PvZ while I do my own thing, thank you for the PvP though, those can be funny and I'll check it out. 250k tournament, 8 games and a PvP....
On November 18 2012 21:00 Mirrikh wrote: Easy road, except all those code S top tier koreans that should have been here to make it a tough road didn't make it.
Parting has been consistently good all year long (albeit never considered THE top player) and that's what makes you the winner of such a lengthy and prestigious tournament.
i guess what makes me uneasy is that the real tournament (kr qualifier) was played in august and sc2 shifts so quickly that parting winning is not really relevant to the current state of the game (leenock playing better, life as gsl champ, etc) if you also consider how mvp and mc didn't even bother playing through their loser bracket matches, the kr qualifier itself had very poor representation of the highest level of skill, except for perhaps protoss, and that was reflect in how pvp dominated this thing was. if there's one thing we can say, it's that parting has the best pvp in the world.
On November 18 2012 21:04 opterown wrote: some combination of IPL5 and GSL5 and Blizzard Cup should paint a clearer picture of the best player of 2012
I don't think there will be a clear picture of who is the best player of 2012.
MVP has 2 GSL finals(won one and runner-up) and IEM. Leenock has 2 MLG finals( won one and runner-up in another). Life won GSL and MLG. Sun won WCS Asia and OSL. Creator TSL4 Champion( this is online though) and WCS Korea Champion.
On November 18 2012 21:05 Weavel wrote: Overall this tounament was a massive disappointment. Expected so much but got so little. Thankfully Dreamhack winter and IPL 5 can show how great tournament is made.
Don't forget IronSquid as well. Their playerlist is sick.
Yeah IronSquid is retarded, their playerlist is like GSL ro16 (just with less zerg)
On November 18 2012 20:53 Desertfaux wrote: Wow, I managed to arrive home and start up the stream literally 1 minute before it shut down, then I looked at the brackets, it was over. Even worse, it was over in the quarterfinals ever since hero lost, nothing for me to enjoy after that point. I'll be checking the vods for the Duran brothers and that will make a total of 8 games I will have caught of this tournament.
I hope you people enjoyed it at least! Hope the next one will be more for my timezone and have more people I want to root for.
Check Rains PvZs vs Killer and Sen. Those were some really amazing stomps. Creator vs Rain was also pretty good.
PvZ hahahah no thanks. I only care enough for Terran matchups and Team Liquid players to look back for. I'll let you folk enjoy PvZ while I do my own thing, thank you for the PvP though, those can be funny and I'll check it out. 250k tournament, 8 games and a PvP....
Well those games werent exactly your standard PvZs, cause i woudlnt recommend otherwise.