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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 18 2012 12:02 GMT
#7701
The drum opening was cool but all in all a fairly mediocre event stream watching wise. Rather disappointing to be honest.

Parting may not be the best player in the world but he is the World Champion.

All hail Parting, the World Champion.

+ Show Spoiler +
Now let's do something about the fucked up sleep schedule
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
November 18 2012 12:03 GMT
#7702
On November 18 2012 21:02 Chill Penguin wrote:
My 2c

Did Parting deserve it? Yes
Did Parting get very lucky? Yes
Is Parting the best in the world? Definitely not.
How was the tournament overall? Disappointing.


My thoughts exactly.
Play your best
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
November 18 2012 12:03 GMT
#7703
On November 18 2012 21:02 Chill Penguin wrote:
My 2c

Did Parting deserve it? Yes
Did Parting get very lucky? Yes
Is Parting the best in the world? Definitely not.
How was the tournament overall? Disappointing.


People are having such a high standards nowadays.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 18 2012 12:03 GMT
#7704
On November 18 2012 21:01 Ronin2011 wrote:
1th Protoss
2nd Protoss
3rd Protoss

Nerf Zerg.. they're so OP!
Let's hope Blizzard reconsider hearing bronze player voices...


Let's judge balance based on the results of one tournament.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Wyk
Profile Joined March 2011
314 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 12:03:46
November 18 2012 12:03 GMT
#7705
On November 18 2012 20:51 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:46 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:44 KimJongChill wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:42 Jehct wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:39 Dodgin wrote:
Okay so in this tournament

Parting defeated

Illusion

Socke

Scarlett

Suppy

Sen

Creator

Only one Korean player and one Code A/B player.

Congrats on the easiest 100k of your life.

...because every other Code S/A/B korean was knocked out either earlier in the tournament or in the many qualifiers leading up to it

Seriously, wtf? This was a lot harder to win, and required a lot more consistency, than any single Code S championship. He got third in WCS KR, second in WCS Asia, first here. That's fucking amazing. Trying to downplay the achievement is just messed up


he beat sc, alive, curious, roro, both heros i think, so not the most impressive line-up. i dont think people are downplaying his achievement so much as they are fed up with the blatant and forced hyping.


Blizzard really desperate to make this seem more important than it really is (apart from the money, which is undoubtedly a big thing)

The lack of terran really tainted the BWC for many people i guess. Blizzard is in a difficult position to integrate foreigners (most of them suck) in the tournament to make it a "world"-ish championship.

Integrate foreigners hmmmm

buff zerg, nerf terran!

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RyuuZer0
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Australia36 Posts
November 18 2012 12:03 GMT
#7706
It's not uncommon that the "best" player doesn't win the world championship. This isn't limited to e-sports, it happens pretty often in other sports too where the team/player that wins the world championships may not be the undisputed "best in the world".

That said, Parting has proven he's a great player, so while he may not be the "best" at this very moment I have no problems accepting that he won a world championship. I think he was the best in the tournament on the day, so he deserves the win.
zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
November 18 2012 12:03 GMT
#7707
Lesson learned: Let dreamhack and Stockholm take care of it next year
(:
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 18 2012 12:04 GMT
#7708
On November 18 2012 20:58 Awesomeness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:58 Bizeheryer wrote:
Now PartinG vs. MC. To battle out who is the real Boss Toss.


MC: "oh you won 100k? That's cute"

"Now do that 2 more times then we'll talk"
Glorious SEA doto
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 18 2012 12:04 GMT
#7709
some combination of IPL5 and GSL5 and Blizzard Cup should paint a clearer picture of the best player of 2012
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 12:04:38
November 18 2012 12:04 GMT
#7710
On November 18 2012 21:03 zanga wrote:
Lesson learned: Let dreamhack and Stockholm take care of it next year


Nope.
Let GOM or OGN hold it in Korea.
Play your best
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
November 18 2012 12:04 GMT
#7711
On November 18 2012 21:03 zanga wrote:
Lesson learned: Let dreamhack and Stockholm take care of it next year

Next year Blizzcon is back, So Blizzard will host it themselves.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Lunchador
Profile Joined April 2010
United States776 Posts
November 18 2012 12:04 GMT
#7712
On November 18 2012 20:57 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:54 nonsequitur wrote:
Yeah, all this bitching about Parting not deserving of the trophy is really inane. Do you feel Barcelona don't deserve to win the Champions League because they didn't play against Real Madrid or any of the other top clubs? Will you only be satisfied if the champion beats every single pro player? If so, why even watch tournaments then?

No one is saying he doesn't deserve the trophy. We're saying he's not "THE BEST IN TEH WORLD"


So what do you get for proving with your extensive amounts of "evidence and facts" that Parting isn't the best in the world, and that he does not deserve to win the WCS? And why should I give a @#$% if you are right or not? If Flash was bonjwa in BW, why couldn't even he get more than 3 OSLs?

To me, Parting today is the "best player in the world". That title may or may not disappear down the line quickly, and life just goes on. That's just how things work out.
Defender of truth, justice, and noontime meals!
ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
November 18 2012 12:04 GMT
#7713
On November 18 2012 21:01 Ronin2011 wrote:
1th Protoss
2nd Protoss
3rd Protoss

Nerf Zerg.. they're so OP!
Let's hope Blizzard reconsider hearing bronze player voices...


Ha! Those three are arguably the top 3 Protosses in the world right now, who were the Zerg representatives again?
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
November 18 2012 12:04 GMT
#7714
On November 18 2012 20:54 KimJongChill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:49 thepuppyassassin wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:44 Dodgin wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:42 Jehct wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:39 Dodgin wrote:
Okay so in this tournament

Parting defeated

Illusion

Socke

Scarlett

Suppy

Sen

Creator

Only one Korean player and one Code A/B player.

Congrats on the easiest 100k of your life.

...because every other Code S/A/B korean was knocked out either earlier in the tournament or in the many qualifiers leading up to it

Seriously, wtf? This was a lot harder to win, and required a lot more consistency, than any single Code S championship. He got third in WCS KR, second in WCS Asia, first here. That's fucking amazing. Trying to downplay the achievement is just messed up


You're missing the point, I'm not trying to downplay his achievement or anything, he played really well and did great in WCS KR and WCS asia to get to this point but the players he had to beat to win this makes it the easiest 100k he will ever make in his life.


No you are missing his point. You also have to count all the people he beat in the qualifiers, which worked toward his entry into the tournament.


i think the issue most people have is that the main tournament itself was a handful of koreans against a bunch of fodder foreigners (with some surprising exceptions), while the most challenging part of the tournament was relatively obscure and just a bunch of bo3's. it also didn't help that it was almost all pvp.

That's not what the tournament was though. It was the finals of a massive, continental spanning tournament where every top player in each country got an invite. Each region was represented approximately equally (which led to ridiculously hard qualifiers), and those representatives then duked it out to determine who the best in the world (right then) was.

It's literally how every 'world championship' style tournament functions. If you want to watch the best players in Korea play games with weeks of preparation, you watch the GSL. If you want to watch a world championship, you watch WCS.

In simple probability stakes, your odds of winning a GSL are a hell of a lot higher. General strength, endurance and consistency are rewarded 10x more than preparation, and single elim to the finish means if you fuck up once, you're done.

I don't really see how you can say one day of Code S is more conclusive than what was basically four tournaments (qualifiers, WCS Korea, WCS Asia, WCS finals). The fu?
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 18 2012 12:05 GMT
#7715
creator is 15th in earnings after all, not so bad.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
November 18 2012 12:05 GMT
#7716
Overall this tounament was a massive disappointment. Expected so much but got so little. Thankfully Dreamhack winter and IPL 5 can show how great tournament is made.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
November 18 2012 12:05 GMT
#7717
On November 18 2012 21:00 opterown wrote:
Leenock still Legit World ChampionTM

Fuck you MVP world champion until someone else breaks 4 gsl titles. Wait no Yonghwa world champion because koreans are the best and he won WCG korea. Wait no Nestea never fell out of the gsl ever so Zergbong world champion? Team IM declared world champion until this can be sorted out. ^-^
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33643 Posts
November 18 2012 12:06 GMT
#7718
On November 18 2012 21:03 RyuuZer0 wrote:
It's not uncommon that the "best" player doesn't win the world championship. This isn't limited to e-sports, it happens pretty often in other sports too where the team/player that wins the world championships may not be the undisputed "best in the world".

That said, Parting has proven he's a great player, so while he may not be the "best" at this very moment I have no problems accepting that he won a world championship. I think he was the best in the tournament on the day, so he deserves the win.


when Greece won the Euro, ppl called them the Euro champions, not the best team in Europe
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 12:07:48
November 18 2012 12:06 GMT
#7719
This part of the tournament may have been easy but to win he beat:

2-0 sC
2-1 aLive
2-0 curious
2-0 seed
0-2 Squirtle
1-2 Creator
2-0 MacSed
2-1 Curious
2-0 RorO
0-2 HerO (TL)
2-1 Curious
2-1 herO (Kespa Protoss)
2-0 HerO (TL)
2-0 Socke
2-0 Illusion
3-0 Scarlett
3-2 Suppy
3-0 Sen
4-2 Creator
(copy pasted this off someone else's post from a few pages back not sure if it's 100% accurate ;P)
looks right though

no reason to discredit parting, of course he isn't the best player in the world, since not everyone qualified/bothered to qualify or just simply dropped out, parting deserved the victory and that's all that matters.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
November 18 2012 12:06 GMT
#7720
to the bank for ol' protoss
hell is other people
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