EPT[WCS] Global Finals Day 2 - Page 389
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thepuppyassassin
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On November 18 2012 21:09 nAgeDitto wrote: this kind of argument after every single tournament :'( Maybe next year Blizzard will force EVERY single player in the world to play for regional/national qualifiers And it will all take place in one week, from qualifier to finals | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
On November 18 2012 21:07 KimJongChill wrote: i guess what makes me uneasy is that the real tournament (kr qualifier) was played in august and sc2 shifts so quickly that parting winning is not really relevant to the current state of the game (leenock playing better, life as gsl champ, etc) if you also consider how mvp and mc didn't even bother playing through their loser bracket matches, the kr qualifier itself had very poor representation of the highest level of skill, except for perhaps protoss, and that was reflect in how pvp dominated this thing was. if there's one thing we can say, it's that parting has the best pvp in the world. Maybe Blizz should try to host more than 1 korean qualifier, that would raise the main tournaments skill massively. But the point with the metashifts is difficult to avoid, cause there are many other tournaments/leagues the players have to play in, also event preparations and stuff i guess. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On November 18 2012 21:08 FakeDeath wrote: I don't think there will be a clear picture of who is the best player of 2012. MVP has 2 GSL finals(won one and runner-up) and IEM. Leenock has 2 MLG finals( won one and runner-up in another). Life won GSL and MLG. Sun won WCS Asia and OSL. Creator TSL4 Champion( this is online though) and WCS Korea Champion. if one person takes both IPL and GSL that would give some solid credence I think. heck, MKP might be in the running lol DRG as well, if he takes IPL5 and blizzcup | ||
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KanoCoke
Japan863 Posts
There should've been a group selection or random draw instead of a set bracket for Ro16. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On November 18 2012 21:12 opterown wrote: if one person takes both IPL and GSL that would give some solid credence I think. heck, MKP might be in the running lol DRG as well, if he takes IPL5 and blizzcup If MKP wins both GSL5 and IPL5 we might just have to call Mvp best of 2012 Rock beats Scissors, Scissors beats Paper, Mvp beats MKP. ITS JUST THE WAY IT IS  | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
 Nerchio: Daybreak | Ohana | Antiga ShipyardScarlett: Ohana | Entombed Valley Illusion: Ohana | Entombed Valley | Cloud KingdomVortiX: Ohana | Antiga Shipyard | Cloud Kingdom | Shakuras Plateau | Entombed Valley Rain: Daybreak | Ohana | Entombed Valley | Antiga Shipyard | Cloud KingdomPartinG: Ohana | Entombed Valley | Antiga Shipyard | Shakuras Plateau | Cloud Kingdom | Tal'Darim Altar | ||
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Kiyo.
United States2284 Posts
On November 18 2012 21:08 FakeDeath wrote: I don't think there will be a clear picture of who is the best player of 2012. MVP has 2 GSL finals(won one and runner-up) and IEM. Leenock has 2 MLG finals( won one and runner-up in another). Life won GSL and MLG. Sun won WCS Asia and OSL. Creator TSL4 Champion( this is online though) and WCS Korea Champion. If one of these players wins both IPL and the end of year GOMTV "Blizzard Cup" then you could probably call them the best player of 2012. It'd take one of those 5 players you listed to win both though (and Leenock/Creator would have to win this GSL). edit: damnit, opterown beat me  | ||
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
On November 18 2012 21:01 Ronin2011 wrote: 1th Protoss 2nd Protoss 3rd Protoss Nerf Zerg.. they're so OP! Let's hope Blizzard reconsider hearing bronze player voices... Don't be a retard. Korea brought their best protosses but not the best players from the other races. If Life, Leenock, DRG would've been there instead they would be top 3. | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
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Fuell
Netherlands3111 Posts
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NightOfTheDead
Lithuania1711 Posts
On November 18 2012 21:13 KanoCoke wrote: What really sucked for me was Idra beasting through his group, only to run into Rain of all people. There should've been a group selection or random draw instead of a set bracket for Ro16. Bad luck. I feel for Idra, he was playing pretty well. However, to be the best you need to be ready to face anyone and everyone anytime in the tournament. | ||
Waxangel
United States33705 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
On November 18 2012 21:07 KimJongChill wrote: i guess what makes me uneasy is that the real tournament (kr qualifier) was played in august and sc2 shifts so quickly that parting winning is not really relevant to the current state of the game (leenock playing better, life as gsl champ, etc) if you also consider how mvp and mc didn't even bother playing through their loser bracket matches, the kr qualifier itself had very poor representation of the highest level of skill, except for perhaps protoss, and that was reflect in how pvp dominated this thing was. if there's one thing we can say, it's that parting has the best pvp in the world. This is about the only valid complaint I've really read (every thing else boils down to the nature of a 'world championship' format), and it kinda is also a valid thing to work into the format, when you think about it. You only get one WCS every year, and it crowns the champion for that year, right? So the fact it spans half of that year sorta makes sense. You have to be that fucking good (top8 at least each 'qualifier') to make it through, so you're never going to get legitimately bad players. Instead, it's the consistently 'really fucking goods' who stay alive long enough to win. It's a test of endurance as much as anything. It's kinda sucky that the points of relevance are completely arbitrary, but that's kinda life. Running a global 'league' format (MLG v KeSPA) would be a logistical nightmare, and just isn't every popular/exciting. This is probably the best format (The Invitational isn't a fair or relevant comparison because there are ~4-6 good teams from each region, making things 10x easier to organise/schedule/format) that they can pull together, considering. | ||
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ladyumbra
Canada1699 Posts
On November 18 2012 21:14 opterown wrote: all of creator's VODs this tournament: Nerchio: Daybreak | Ohana | Antiga ShipyardScarlett: Ohana | Entombed ValleyIllusion: Ohana | Entombed Valley | Cloud KingdomVortiX: Ohana | Antiga Shipyard | Cloud Kingdom | Shakuras Plateau | Entombed ValleyRain: Daybreak | Ohana | Entombed Valley | Antiga Shipyard | Cloud KingdomPartinG: Ohana | Entombed Valley | Antiga Shipyard | Shakuras Plateau | Cloud Kingdom | Tal'Darim Altari love you forever | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
On November 18 2012 21:08 FakeDeath wrote: I don't think there will be a clear picture of who is the best player of 2012. MVP has 2 GSL finals(won one and runner-up) and IEM. Leenock has 2 MLG finals( won one and runner-up in another). Life won GSL and MLG. Sun won WCS Asia and OSL. Creator TSL4 Champion( this is online though) and WCS Korea Champion. Thx for the list. I think we have to wait for GSL5 / IPL / Ironsquid. Is there another MLG this year? | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
On November 18 2012 21:12 opterown wrote: if one person takes both IPL and GSL that would give some solid credence I think. heck, MKP might be in the running lol DRG as well, if he takes IPL5 and blizzcup I think DRG has it right now. Could change depending on the results of GSL/Blizzcup/IPL5 of course though. | ||
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Waxangel
United States33705 Posts
On November 18 2012 21:14 Dronk wrote: Lol TL never gets old, Scarlett, Suppy and Sen are all super skilled fan favourites going into this and when PartinG beats em they are just "foreigners" and his victory would only be legit if he had beaten Life, MVP and DRG. Never change TL. would you believe it if I told you there are many different kinds of people on TL? | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On November 18 2012 21:14 Waxangel wrote: Meh, what's gonna happen is Sniper will win GSL, HyuN will win IPL, and we'll just name DRG best of 2012 since he had the best overall this year I would not mind though.XDD Though i will like to see Life winning. | ||
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