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thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
November 18 2012 12:11 GMT
#7761
Good for parting.. but I can guarantee noone back at home is going to refer to him as "world champion" while he's fighting to stay in code S.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 18 2012 12:12 GMT
#7762
On November 18 2012 21:09 nAgeDitto wrote:
this kind of argument after every single tournament :'(

Maybe next year Blizzard will force EVERY single player in the world to play for regional/national qualifiers




And it will all take place in one week, from qualifier to finals
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
November 18 2012 12:12 GMT
#7763
On November 18 2012 21:07 KimJongChill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:00 Mirrikh wrote:
Easy road, except all those code S top tier koreans that should have been here to make it a tough road didn't make it.

Parting has been consistently good all year long (albeit never considered THE top player) and that's what makes you the winner of such a lengthy and prestigious tournament.


i guess what makes me uneasy is that the real tournament (kr qualifier) was played in august and sc2 shifts so quickly that parting winning is not really relevant to the current state of the game (leenock playing better, life as gsl champ, etc) if you also consider how mvp and mc didn't even bother playing through their loser bracket matches, the kr qualifier itself had very poor representation of the highest level of skill, except for perhaps protoss, and that was reflect in how pvp dominated this thing was. if there's one thing we can say, it's that parting has the best pvp in the world.

Maybe Blizz should try to host more than 1 korean qualifier, that would raise the main tournaments skill massively. But the point with the metashifts is difficult to avoid, cause there are many other tournaments/leagues the players have to play in, also event preparations and stuff i guess.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 12:12:57
November 18 2012 12:12 GMT
#7764
On November 18 2012 21:08 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:04 opterown wrote:
some combination of IPL5 and GSL5 and Blizzard Cup should paint a clearer picture of the best player of 2012


I don't think there will be a clear picture of who is the best player of 2012.

MVP has 2 GSL finals(won one and runner-up) and IEM.
Leenock has 2 MLG finals( won one and runner-up in another).
Life won GSL and MLG.
Sun won WCS Asia and OSL.
Creator TSL4 Champion( this is online though) and WCS Korea Champion.

if one person takes both IPL and GSL that would give some solid credence I think.
heck, MKP might be in the running lol

DRG as well, if he takes IPL5 and blizzcup
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KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
November 18 2012 12:13 GMT
#7765
What really sucked for me was Idra beasting through his group, only to run into Rain of all people.

There should've been a group selection or random draw instead of a set bracket for Ro16.
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S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
November 18 2012 12:13 GMT
#7766
On November 18 2012 21:12 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:08 FakeDeath wrote:
On November 18 2012 21:04 opterown wrote:
some combination of IPL5 and GSL5 and Blizzard Cup should paint a clearer picture of the best player of 2012


I don't think there will be a clear picture of who is the best player of 2012.

MVP has 2 GSL finals(won one and runner-up) and IEM.
Leenock has 2 MLG finals( won one and runner-up in another).
Life won GSL and MLG.
Sun won WCS Asia and OSL.
Creator TSL4 Champion( this is online though) and WCS Korea Champion.

if one person takes both IPL and GSL that would give some solid credence I think.
heck, MKP might be in the running lol

DRG as well, if he takes IPL5 and blizzcup

If MKP wins both GSL5 and IPL5 we might just have to call Mvp best of 2012

Rock beats Scissors, Scissors beats Paper, Mvp beats MKP.

ITS JUST THE WAY IT IS
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 18 2012 12:14 GMT
#7767
all of creator's VODs this tournament:

(Z)Nerchio: Daybreak | Ohana | Antiga Shipyard
(Z)Scarlett: Ohana | Entombed Valley
(T)Illusion: Ohana | Entombed Valley | Cloud Kingdom
(Z)VortiX: Ohana | Antiga Shipyard | Cloud Kingdom | Shakuras Plateau | Entombed Valley
(P)Rain: Daybreak | Ohana | Entombed Valley | Antiga Shipyard | Cloud Kingdom
(P)PartinG: Ohana | Entombed Valley | Antiga Shipyard | Shakuras Plateau | Cloud Kingdom | Tal'Darim Altar
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TL+ Member
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 12:14:55
November 18 2012 12:14 GMT
#7768
On November 18 2012 21:08 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:04 opterown wrote:
some combination of IPL5 and GSL5 and Blizzard Cup should paint a clearer picture of the best player of 2012


I don't think there will be a clear picture of who is the best player of 2012.

MVP has 2 GSL finals(won one and runner-up) and IEM.
Leenock has 2 MLG finals( won one and runner-up in another).
Life won GSL and MLG.
Sun won WCS Asia and OSL.
Creator TSL4 Champion( this is online though) and WCS Korea Champion.





If one of these players wins both IPL and the end of year GOMTV "Blizzard Cup" then you could probably call them the best player of 2012. It'd take one of those 5 players you listed to win both though (and Leenock/Creator would have to win this GSL).

edit: damnit, opterown beat me
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Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
November 18 2012 12:14 GMT
#7769
On November 18 2012 21:01 Ronin2011 wrote:
1th Protoss
2nd Protoss
3rd Protoss

Nerf Zerg.. they're so OP!
Let's hope Blizzard reconsider hearing bronze player voices...

Don't be a retard. Korea brought their best protosses but not the best players from the other races. If Life, Leenock, DRG would've been there instead they would be top 3.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 18 2012 12:14 GMT
#7770
I have to be asking: With PartinG losing 2 maps to Suppy and Crrator losing 2 maps to Vortix: What would have happened, if Nerchio would have killed Scarletts 5th, that was in the red, instead of simply walking away and let it live?
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
November 18 2012 12:14 GMT
#7771
Lol TL never gets old, Scarlett, Suppy and Sen are all super skilled fan favourites going into this and when PartinG beats em they are just "foreigners" and his victory would only be legit if he had beaten Life, MVP and DRG. Never change TL.
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NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
November 18 2012 12:14 GMT
#7772
On November 18 2012 21:13 KanoCoke wrote:
What really sucked for me was Idra beasting through his group, only to run into Rain of all people.

There should've been a group selection or random draw instead of a set bracket for Ro16.

Bad luck. I feel for Idra, he was playing pretty well. However, to be the best you need to be ready to face anyone and everyone anytime in the tournament.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33389 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 12:15:02
November 18 2012 12:14 GMT
#7773
Meh, what's gonna happen is Sniper will win GSL, HyuN will win IPL, and we'll just name DRG best of 2012 since he had the best overall this year
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 18 2012 12:15 GMT
#7774
I almost forgot Parting is playing in WCG in a few weeks, let's see if he can become world champion twice ;o
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
November 18 2012 12:15 GMT
#7775
On November 18 2012 21:07 KimJongChill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:00 Mirrikh wrote:
Easy road, except all those code S top tier koreans that should have been here to make it a tough road didn't make it.

Parting has been consistently good all year long (albeit never considered THE top player) and that's what makes you the winner of such a lengthy and prestigious tournament.


i guess what makes me uneasy is that the real tournament (kr qualifier) was played in august and sc2 shifts so quickly that parting winning is not really relevant to the current state of the game (leenock playing better, life as gsl champ, etc) if you also consider how mvp and mc didn't even bother playing through their loser bracket matches, the kr qualifier itself had very poor representation of the highest level of skill, except for perhaps protoss, and that was reflect in how pvp dominated this thing was. if there's one thing we can say, it's that parting has the best pvp in the world.

This is about the only valid complaint I've really read (every thing else boils down to the nature of a 'world championship' format), and it kinda is also a valid thing to work into the format, when you think about it.

You only get one WCS every year, and it crowns the champion for that year, right? So the fact it spans half of that year sorta makes sense. You have to be that fucking good (top8 at least each 'qualifier') to make it through, so you're never going to get legitimately bad players. Instead, it's the consistently 'really fucking goods' who stay alive long enough to win. It's a test of endurance as much as anything.

It's kinda sucky that the points of relevance are completely arbitrary, but that's kinda life. Running a global 'league' format (MLG v KeSPA) would be a logistical nightmare, and just isn't every popular/exciting. This is probably the best format (The Invitational isn't a fair or relevant comparison because there are ~4-6 good teams from each region, making things 10x easier to organise/schedule/format) that they can pull together, considering.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
November 18 2012 12:15 GMT
#7776
On November 18 2012 21:14 opterown wrote:
all of creator's VODs this tournament:

(Z)Nerchio: Daybreak | Ohana | Antiga Shipyard
(Z)Scarlett: Ohana | Entombed Valley
(T)Illusion: Ohana | Entombed Valley | Cloud Kingdom
(Z)VortiX: Ohana | Antiga Shipyard | Cloud Kingdom | Shakuras Plateau | Entombed Valley
(P)Rain: Daybreak | Ohana | Entombed Valley | Antiga Shipyard | Cloud Kingdom
(P)PartinG: Ohana | Entombed Valley | Antiga Shipyard | Shakuras Plateau | Cloud Kingdom | Tal'Darim Altar


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gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
November 18 2012 12:15 GMT
#7777
On November 18 2012 21:08 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:04 opterown wrote:
some combination of IPL5 and GSL5 and Blizzard Cup should paint a clearer picture of the best player of 2012


I don't think there will be a clear picture of who is the best player of 2012.

MVP has 2 GSL finals(won one and runner-up) and IEM.
Leenock has 2 MLG finals( won one and runner-up in another).
Life won GSL and MLG.
Sun won WCS Asia and OSL.
Creator TSL4 Champion( this is online though) and WCS Korea Champion.

Thx for the list. I think we have to wait for GSL5 / IPL / Ironsquid. Is there another MLG this year?
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
November 18 2012 12:15 GMT
#7778
On November 18 2012 21:12 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:08 FakeDeath wrote:
On November 18 2012 21:04 opterown wrote:
some combination of IPL5 and GSL5 and Blizzard Cup should paint a clearer picture of the best player of 2012


I don't think there will be a clear picture of who is the best player of 2012.

MVP has 2 GSL finals(won one and runner-up) and IEM.
Leenock has 2 MLG finals( won one and runner-up in another).
Life won GSL and MLG.
Sun won WCS Asia and OSL.
Creator TSL4 Champion( this is online though) and WCS Korea Champion.

if one person takes both IPL and GSL that would give some solid credence I think.
heck, MKP might be in the running lol

DRG as well, if he takes IPL5 and blizzcup


I think DRG has it right now. Could change depending on the results of GSL/Blizzcup/IPL5 of course though.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33389 Posts
November 18 2012 12:15 GMT
#7779
On November 18 2012 21:14 Dronk wrote:
Lol TL never gets old, Scarlett, Suppy and Sen are all super skilled fan favourites going into this and when PartinG beats em they are just "foreigners" and his victory would only be legit if he had beaten Life, MVP and DRG. Never change TL.


would you believe it if I told you there are many different kinds of people on TL?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
November 18 2012 12:16 GMT
#7780
On November 18 2012 21:14 Waxangel wrote:
Meh, what's gonna happen is Sniper will win GSL, HyuN will win IPL, and we'll just name DRG best of 2012 since he had the best overall this year


I would not mind though.XDD

Though i will like to see Life winning.
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