• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:36
CEST 16:36
KST 23:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists22[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event8Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results02026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event SC2 INu's Battles#15 <BO.9 2Matches> WardiTV Spring Cup SEL Masters #6 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion [BSL22] RO16 Group B - Saturday 21:00 CEST
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Diablo IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Movie Stars In Video Games: …
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1686 users

[WCS] Global Finals Day 2 - Page 389

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 387 388 389 390 391 403 Next
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
November 18 2012 12:11 GMT
#7761
Good for parting.. but I can guarantee noone back at home is going to refer to him as "world champion" while he's fighting to stay in code S.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 18 2012 12:12 GMT
#7762
On November 18 2012 21:09 nAgeDitto wrote:
this kind of argument after every single tournament :'(

Maybe next year Blizzard will force EVERY single player in the world to play for regional/national qualifiers




And it will all take place in one week, from qualifier to finals
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
November 18 2012 12:12 GMT
#7763
On November 18 2012 21:07 KimJongChill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:00 Mirrikh wrote:
Easy road, except all those code S top tier koreans that should have been here to make it a tough road didn't make it.

Parting has been consistently good all year long (albeit never considered THE top player) and that's what makes you the winner of such a lengthy and prestigious tournament.


i guess what makes me uneasy is that the real tournament (kr qualifier) was played in august and sc2 shifts so quickly that parting winning is not really relevant to the current state of the game (leenock playing better, life as gsl champ, etc) if you also consider how mvp and mc didn't even bother playing through their loser bracket matches, the kr qualifier itself had very poor representation of the highest level of skill, except for perhaps protoss, and that was reflect in how pvp dominated this thing was. if there's one thing we can say, it's that parting has the best pvp in the world.

Maybe Blizz should try to host more than 1 korean qualifier, that would raise the main tournaments skill massively. But the point with the metashifts is difficult to avoid, cause there are many other tournaments/leagues the players have to play in, also event preparations and stuff i guess.
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 12:12:57
November 18 2012 12:12 GMT
#7764
On November 18 2012 21:08 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:04 opterown wrote:
some combination of IPL5 and GSL5 and Blizzard Cup should paint a clearer picture of the best player of 2012


I don't think there will be a clear picture of who is the best player of 2012.

MVP has 2 GSL finals(won one and runner-up) and IEM.
Leenock has 2 MLG finals( won one and runner-up in another).
Life won GSL and MLG.
Sun won WCS Asia and OSL.
Creator TSL4 Champion( this is online though) and WCS Korea Champion.

if one person takes both IPL and GSL that would give some solid credence I think.
heck, MKP might be in the running lol

DRG as well, if he takes IPL5 and blizzcup
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
November 18 2012 12:13 GMT
#7765
What really sucked for me was Idra beasting through his group, only to run into Rain of all people.

There should've been a group selection or random draw instead of a set bracket for Ro16.
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
November 18 2012 12:13 GMT
#7766
On November 18 2012 21:12 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:08 FakeDeath wrote:
On November 18 2012 21:04 opterown wrote:
some combination of IPL5 and GSL5 and Blizzard Cup should paint a clearer picture of the best player of 2012


I don't think there will be a clear picture of who is the best player of 2012.

MVP has 2 GSL finals(won one and runner-up) and IEM.
Leenock has 2 MLG finals( won one and runner-up in another).
Life won GSL and MLG.
Sun won WCS Asia and OSL.
Creator TSL4 Champion( this is online though) and WCS Korea Champion.

if one person takes both IPL and GSL that would give some solid credence I think.
heck, MKP might be in the running lol

DRG as well, if he takes IPL5 and blizzcup

If MKP wins both GSL5 and IPL5 we might just have to call Mvp best of 2012

Rock beats Scissors, Scissors beats Paper, Mvp beats MKP.

ITS JUST THE WAY IT IS
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 18 2012 12:14 GMT
#7767
all of creator's VODs this tournament:

(Z)Nerchio: Daybreak | Ohana | Antiga Shipyard
(Z)Scarlett: Ohana | Entombed Valley
(T)Illusion: Ohana | Entombed Valley | Cloud Kingdom
(Z)VortiX: Ohana | Antiga Shipyard | Cloud Kingdom | Shakuras Plateau | Entombed Valley
(P)Rain: Daybreak | Ohana | Entombed Valley | Antiga Shipyard | Cloud Kingdom
(P)PartinG: Ohana | Entombed Valley | Antiga Shipyard | Shakuras Plateau | Cloud Kingdom | Tal'Darim Altar
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 12:14:55
November 18 2012 12:14 GMT
#7768
On November 18 2012 21:08 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:04 opterown wrote:
some combination of IPL5 and GSL5 and Blizzard Cup should paint a clearer picture of the best player of 2012


I don't think there will be a clear picture of who is the best player of 2012.

MVP has 2 GSL finals(won one and runner-up) and IEM.
Leenock has 2 MLG finals( won one and runner-up in another).
Life won GSL and MLG.
Sun won WCS Asia and OSL.
Creator TSL4 Champion( this is online though) and WCS Korea Champion.





If one of these players wins both IPL and the end of year GOMTV "Blizzard Cup" then you could probably call them the best player of 2012. It'd take one of those 5 players you listed to win both though (and Leenock/Creator would have to win this GSL).

edit: damnit, opterown beat me
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
November 18 2012 12:14 GMT
#7769
On November 18 2012 21:01 Ronin2011 wrote:
1th Protoss
2nd Protoss
3rd Protoss

Nerf Zerg.. they're so OP!
Let's hope Blizzard reconsider hearing bronze player voices...

Don't be a retard. Korea brought their best protosses but not the best players from the other races. If Life, Leenock, DRG would've been there instead they would be top 3.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 18 2012 12:14 GMT
#7770
I have to be asking: With PartinG losing 2 maps to Suppy and Crrator losing 2 maps to Vortix: What would have happened, if Nerchio would have killed Scarletts 5th, that was in the red, instead of simply walking away and let it live?
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
November 18 2012 12:14 GMT
#7771
Lol TL never gets old, Scarlett, Suppy and Sen are all super skilled fan favourites going into this and when PartinG beats em they are just "foreigners" and his victory would only be legit if he had beaten Life, MVP and DRG. Never change TL.
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
November 18 2012 12:14 GMT
#7772
On November 18 2012 21:13 KanoCoke wrote:
What really sucked for me was Idra beasting through his group, only to run into Rain of all people.

There should've been a group selection or random draw instead of a set bracket for Ro16.

Bad luck. I feel for Idra, he was playing pretty well. However, to be the best you need to be ready to face anyone and everyone anytime in the tournament.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33599 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 12:15:02
November 18 2012 12:14 GMT
#7773
Meh, what's gonna happen is Sniper will win GSL, HyuN will win IPL, and we'll just name DRG best of 2012 since he had the best overall this year
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 18 2012 12:15 GMT
#7774
I almost forgot Parting is playing in WCG in a few weeks, let's see if he can become world champion twice ;o
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
November 18 2012 12:15 GMT
#7775
On November 18 2012 21:07 KimJongChill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:00 Mirrikh wrote:
Easy road, except all those code S top tier koreans that should have been here to make it a tough road didn't make it.

Parting has been consistently good all year long (albeit never considered THE top player) and that's what makes you the winner of such a lengthy and prestigious tournament.


i guess what makes me uneasy is that the real tournament (kr qualifier) was played in august and sc2 shifts so quickly that parting winning is not really relevant to the current state of the game (leenock playing better, life as gsl champ, etc) if you also consider how mvp and mc didn't even bother playing through their loser bracket matches, the kr qualifier itself had very poor representation of the highest level of skill, except for perhaps protoss, and that was reflect in how pvp dominated this thing was. if there's one thing we can say, it's that parting has the best pvp in the world.

This is about the only valid complaint I've really read (every thing else boils down to the nature of a 'world championship' format), and it kinda is also a valid thing to work into the format, when you think about it.

You only get one WCS every year, and it crowns the champion for that year, right? So the fact it spans half of that year sorta makes sense. You have to be that fucking good (top8 at least each 'qualifier') to make it through, so you're never going to get legitimately bad players. Instead, it's the consistently 'really fucking goods' who stay alive long enough to win. It's a test of endurance as much as anything.

It's kinda sucky that the points of relevance are completely arbitrary, but that's kinda life. Running a global 'league' format (MLG v KeSPA) would be a logistical nightmare, and just isn't every popular/exciting. This is probably the best format (The Invitational isn't a fair or relevant comparison because there are ~4-6 good teams from each region, making things 10x easier to organise/schedule/format) that they can pull together, considering.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
November 18 2012 12:15 GMT
#7776
On November 18 2012 21:14 opterown wrote:
all of creator's VODs this tournament:

(Z)Nerchio: Daybreak | Ohana | Antiga Shipyard
(Z)Scarlett: Ohana | Entombed Valley
(T)Illusion: Ohana | Entombed Valley | Cloud Kingdom
(Z)VortiX: Ohana | Antiga Shipyard | Cloud Kingdom | Shakuras Plateau | Entombed Valley
(P)Rain: Daybreak | Ohana | Entombed Valley | Antiga Shipyard | Cloud Kingdom
(P)PartinG: Ohana | Entombed Valley | Antiga Shipyard | Shakuras Plateau | Cloud Kingdom | Tal'Darim Altar


i love you forever
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
November 18 2012 12:15 GMT
#7777
On November 18 2012 21:08 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:04 opterown wrote:
some combination of IPL5 and GSL5 and Blizzard Cup should paint a clearer picture of the best player of 2012


I don't think there will be a clear picture of who is the best player of 2012.

MVP has 2 GSL finals(won one and runner-up) and IEM.
Leenock has 2 MLG finals( won one and runner-up in another).
Life won GSL and MLG.
Sun won WCS Asia and OSL.
Creator TSL4 Champion( this is online though) and WCS Korea Champion.

Thx for the list. I think we have to wait for GSL5 / IPL / Ironsquid. Is there another MLG this year?
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
November 18 2012 12:15 GMT
#7778
On November 18 2012 21:12 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 21:08 FakeDeath wrote:
On November 18 2012 21:04 opterown wrote:
some combination of IPL5 and GSL5 and Blizzard Cup should paint a clearer picture of the best player of 2012


I don't think there will be a clear picture of who is the best player of 2012.

MVP has 2 GSL finals(won one and runner-up) and IEM.
Leenock has 2 MLG finals( won one and runner-up in another).
Life won GSL and MLG.
Sun won WCS Asia and OSL.
Creator TSL4 Champion( this is online though) and WCS Korea Champion.

if one person takes both IPL and GSL that would give some solid credence I think.
heck, MKP might be in the running lol

DRG as well, if he takes IPL5 and blizzcup


I think DRG has it right now. Could change depending on the results of GSL/Blizzcup/IPL5 of course though.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33599 Posts
November 18 2012 12:15 GMT
#7779
On November 18 2012 21:14 Dronk wrote:
Lol TL never gets old, Scarlett, Suppy and Sen are all super skilled fan favourites going into this and when PartinG beats em they are just "foreigners" and his victory would only be legit if he had beaten Life, MVP and DRG. Never change TL.


would you believe it if I told you there are many different kinds of people on TL?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
November 18 2012 12:16 GMT
#7780
On November 18 2012 21:14 Waxangel wrote:
Meh, what's gonna happen is Sniper will win GSL, HyuN will win IPL, and we'll just name DRG best of 2012 since he had the best overall this year


I would not mind though.XDD

Though i will like to see Life winning.
Play your best
Prev 1 387 388 389 390 391 403 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
14:00
Season 2 - May 2026
RotterdaM710
uThermal391
IndyStarCraft 121
SteadfastSC85
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 710
uThermal 391
mouzHeroMarine 240
Railgan 130
IndyStarCraft 121
SteadfastSC 85
BRAT_OK 68
MindelVK 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 69956
EffOrt 1550
Horang2 1362
Shuttle 892
Hyuk 672
ggaemo 579
Rush 314
Soma 274
firebathero 255
Leta 198
[ Show more ]
Pusan 176
PianO 105
Last 99
Sharp 84
actioN 68
Barracks 55
ToSsGirL 54
Hm[arnc] 53
Sacsri 26
Terrorterran 20
Rock 19
zelot 17
IntoTheRainbow 16
Noble 16
JulyZerg 15
yabsab 14
GoRush 14
Icarus 8
Shine 6
Dota 2
qojqva1837
XaKoH 625
monkeys_forever208
Fuzer 133
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor344
Other Games
singsing2655
B2W.Neo1400
Liquid`RaSZi1132
Beastyqt837
KnowMe200
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV650
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream66
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• iHatsuTV 9
• Adnapsc2 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV312
League of Legends
• Jankos2635
Upcoming Events
BSL
4h 24m
IPSL
4h 24m
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Patches Events
9h 24m
Replay Cast
18h 24m
Wardi Open
19h 24m
Afreeca Starleague
19h 24m
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 9h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 19h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 19h
Snow vs Flash
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
1d 20h
GSL
2 days
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
3 days
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
OSC
3 days
OSC
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Escore
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-02
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W6
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.