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What is the song on the stream called? I've heard in a mash-up
Edit: Found it
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On October 21 2012 01:35 Mackus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 01:30 StarVe wrote:On October 21 2012 01:26 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:19 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 01:07 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:04 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 00:50 Mackus wrote:
Group 1
Rain
TLO
BeastyQT
desRow
There's your group of death for this round. I´d rate groups 5 & 8 higher tbh.. 5 is very even and 8 has 3 very good players in it, who are IMHO better than the ones playing in grp 1. You can't be serious, honestly Rain has been in his best form since his MLG terror back in 2011 lately where he eats Foreigners for elevenses when he's able to channel his inner-cheese (when he can't hes an absolute nightmare) and TLO's form has been hot lately TLO had one good tourney lately, he still has a lot to proof. Fraer is slaying opponents left and right at EGMC, NightEnD has proven time after time, that he can beat compete with koreans (wins against Taeja, 3-0ing Puma) and Nerchio is probably the best player in this tournament. I think everyone of them would have a good chance to win, if they would place in group 1. Slaying people left and right? He's currently 2-1, it is the biggest exaggeration ever. Nerchio the best player? TheSTC Code S 2 seasons ago, Code A this season. Don't get me wrong I know nothing about the EU scene, but it seems like you're the exact same overseas Fraer is 5-1 in series in EG Master's Cup, he beat Nerchio, HasuObs, NightEnd, Thorzain and JonnyRecco (2-0 against everyone but Nerchio who took a game) and lost to Kas. You're wrong, he's not. I checked from Liquipedia so blame that for not updating but it still doesn't take away the fact you're comparing Fraer to Rain and TheSTC, it's laughable. Nerchio's good but he's not the best in the tournament and he's probably your only hope of the some Code B Koreans + TheSTC making a mockery of the EU scene
Are you seriously saying Rain is better than Fraer atm.? His last achievment was about one year ago, he has about 100 elo less with recent losses to Grubby, Sheth, Sase, Strelok...
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On October 21 2012 01:45 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 01:35 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:30 StarVe wrote:On October 21 2012 01:26 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:19 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 01:07 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:04 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 00:50 Mackus wrote:
Group 1
Rain
TLO
BeastyQT
desRow
There's your group of death for this round. I´d rate groups 5 & 8 higher tbh.. 5 is very even and 8 has 3 very good players in it, who are IMHO better than the ones playing in grp 1. You can't be serious, honestly Rain has been in his best form since his MLG terror back in 2011 lately where he eats Foreigners for elevenses when he's able to channel his inner-cheese (when he can't hes an absolute nightmare) and TLO's form has been hot lately TLO had one good tourney lately, he still has a lot to proof. Fraer is slaying opponents left and right at EGMC, NightEnD has proven time after time, that he can beat compete with koreans (wins against Taeja, 3-0ing Puma) and Nerchio is probably the best player in this tournament. I think everyone of them would have a good chance to win, if they would place in group 1. Slaying people left and right? He's currently 2-1, it is the biggest exaggeration ever. Nerchio the best player? TheSTC Code S 2 seasons ago, Code A this season. Don't get me wrong I know nothing about the EU scene, but it seems like you're the exact same overseas Fraer is 5-1 in series in EG Master's Cup, he beat Nerchio, HasuObs, NightEnd, Thorzain and JonnyRecco (2-0 against everyone but Nerchio who took a game) and lost to Kas. You're wrong, he's not. I checked from Liquipedia so blame that for not updating but it still doesn't take away the fact you're comparing Fraer to Rain and TheSTC, it's laughable. Nerchio's good but he's not the best in the tournament and he's probably your only hope of the some Code B Koreans + TheSTC making a mockery of the EU scene Are you seriously saying Rain is better than Fraer atm.? His last achievment was about one year ago, he has about 100 elo less with recent losses to Grubby, Sheth, Sase, Strelok...
>elo
This is where your argument starts to fall apart.
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Maybe weird thing to say here but I really dislike the format DH has. The first 10h of the tournament is filled with matches that are close to pointless and in general of lower quality even if they by an off chance would matter.
Okay so first argument arising; Do not watch it then!
Okay that is a point and actually I have not. However the tournament "must" run over two days. So because of this must the final 16 bracket tree be completed in probably shorter time then this first ro64 takes. Which result in the semifinal being a bo3 single elimination.
So what can happen, and did happen with Hero at DH summer, is that a player goes undefeated in the tournament and then loses 2-1 in a mirror in the quarter/semifinal. Hero was 20-0 maps before so his total result was 21-2 in the tournament and then he got exactly 0$. Besides is it really boring, say that theStC and Nerchio goes up in a semifinal. That is likely to be the best match of the tournament, anything less then a bo5 is underwhelming. And if it is a bo3 system there should be a lower bracket.
I actually do not get it because it is stupid on several layers. First a lot of low quality/unimportant matches are taking air time from the second group stage and the 16 bracket. Fewer people are watching the first group stage and therefor are the fewer viewers total and thus less income. Second is it just Booooring. Third is it less fair, the fact you can get knockout in a bo3 mirror after winning the first 20 maps and thus have win record above 90% is bullshit.
Have something else, have a small tournament before with only BYOC people and have the top 4 seeded into a group play or have more online qualifiers or most other things than this.
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On October 21 2012 01:42 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 01:40 Trashman420 wrote:Prediction time! + Show Spoiler +
Group 1
Rain
TLO
BeastyQT
desRow
Group 2
Elfi
Targa
AureS
Starnan
Group 3
monchi
Mista
Censure
White
Group 4
Naama
MaNa
PoYo
Deathangel
Group 5
Sage
SortOf
Seiplo
Ziktomini
Group 6
ParanOid
TheSTC
Giantt
Darkthorn
Group 7
Cloud
Bly
Harstem
Tarra
Group 8
Fraer
Nerchio
NightenD
Evaner
Some good games ahead of us! Only name I strongly disagree with is Ziktomini.
SortOf is the favourite, yeah. I just have a bad feeling for him. Also, Ziktomini did take out a few very strong zergs. Stephano and JRecco off the top of my head.
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On October 21 2012 01:42 RPR_Tempest wrote:My predictions: + Show Spoiler +LiquidTLO 3-0 (6-0)
FnaticRC.Rain 2-1 (4-3)
Pulse.desRow 1-2 (3-5)
Empire.Beastyqt 0-3 (1-6)
MFTargA 3-0 (6-1)
ImgAureS 2-1 (4-2)
ROG.elfi 1-2 (3-4)
WW.StarNaN 0-3 (0-6)
XMG.monchi 3-0 (6-0)
Empire.TheMista 2-1 (4-2)
AT.CENSURE 1-2 (2-4)
NrS.White 0-3 (0-6)
mouz.MaNa 2-1 (5-2)
Ai.DeathAngel 2-1 (5-3)
FnaticRC.Naama 2-1 (4-3)
LLL.PoYo 0-3 (0-6)
AT.Sage 2-1 (4-2)
WW.SortOf 2-1 (4-2)
WW.Ziktomini 1-2 (2-5)
Ai.Seiplo 1-2 (3-4)
Quantic.TheStC 3-0 (6-0)
Acer.ParanOid 2-1 (4-2)
Qnatex.Giantt 1-2 (2-4)
Darkthorn 0-3 (0-6)
Acer.Bly 3-0 (6-0)
aTn.ClouD 2-1 (4-2)
FnaticRC.Harstem 1-2 (2-4)
Ai.Tarrantius 0-3 (0-6)
Acer.Nerchio 3-0 (6-0)
ROXKIS.fraer 2-1 (4-3)
FnaticRC.NightEnD 1-2 (3-4)
Vasacast.Vaner 0-3 (0-6) Note that with the exception of GSL, my predictions in groups are usually disasters.
I strongly disagree with desrow beating Beasty and I would probably also change Rain and TLO, but otherwise this seems pretty accurate.
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On October 21 2012 01:44 WindWolf wrote:
What is the song on the stream called? I've heard in a mash-up
Cities of the Future by Infected Mushroom
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On October 21 2012 01:47 Trashman420 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 01:42 AlternativeEgo wrote:On October 21 2012 01:40 Trashman420 wrote:Prediction time! + Show Spoiler +
Group 1
Rain
TLO
BeastyQT
desRow
Group 2
Elfi
Targa
AureS
Starnan
Group 3
monchi
Mista
Censure
White
Group 4
Naama
MaNa
PoYo
Deathangel
Group 5
Sage
SortOf
Seiplo
Ziktomini
Group 6
ParanOid
TheSTC
Giantt
Darkthorn
Group 7
Cloud
Bly
Harstem
Tarra
Group 8
Fraer
Nerchio
NightenD
Evaner
Some good games ahead of us! Only name I strongly disagree with is Ziktomini. SortOf is the favourite, yeah. I just have a bad feeling for him. Also, Ziktomini did take out a few very strong zergs. Stephano and JRecco off the top of my head.
But he lost to TLO in this very tournament, just did not really convince there tbh.
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On October 21 2012 01:45 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 01:35 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:30 StarVe wrote:On October 21 2012 01:26 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:19 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 01:07 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:04 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 00:50 Mackus wrote:
Group 1
Rain
TLO
BeastyQT
desRow
There's your group of death for this round. I´d rate groups 5 & 8 higher tbh.. 5 is very even and 8 has 3 very good players in it, who are IMHO better than the ones playing in grp 1. You can't be serious, honestly Rain has been in his best form since his MLG terror back in 2011 lately where he eats Foreigners for elevenses when he's able to channel his inner-cheese (when he can't hes an absolute nightmare) and TLO's form has been hot lately TLO had one good tourney lately, he still has a lot to proof. Fraer is slaying opponents left and right at EGMC, NightEnD has proven time after time, that he can beat compete with koreans (wins against Taeja, 3-0ing Puma) and Nerchio is probably the best player in this tournament. I think everyone of them would have a good chance to win, if they would place in group 1. Slaying people left and right? He's currently 2-1, it is the biggest exaggeration ever. Nerchio the best player? TheSTC Code S 2 seasons ago, Code A this season. Don't get me wrong I know nothing about the EU scene, but it seems like you're the exact same overseas Fraer is 5-1 in series in EG Master's Cup, he beat Nerchio, HasuObs, NightEnd, Thorzain and JonnyRecco (2-0 against everyone but Nerchio who took a game) and lost to Kas. You're wrong, he's not. I checked from Liquipedia so blame that for not updating but it still doesn't take away the fact you're comparing Fraer to Rain and TheSTC, it's laughable. Nerchio's good but he's not the best in the tournament and he's probably your only hope of the some Code B Koreans + TheSTC making a mockery of the EU scene Are you seriously saying Rain is better than Fraer atm.? His last achievment was about one year ago, he has about 100 elo less with recent losses to Grubby, Sheth, Sase, Strelok...
3-2 in GSTL
4-0 in IPL
3-2 in the EG MSC
All in the past 5 weeks
I did say Team Leagues. Also. Like the other guy said, using elo as part of your argument not such a great thing to do.
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On October 21 2012 01:47 RPR_Tempest wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 01:45 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 01:35 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:30 StarVe wrote:On October 21 2012 01:26 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:19 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 01:07 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:04 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 00:50 Mackus wrote:
Group 1
Rain
TLO
BeastyQT
desRow
There's your group of death for this round. I´d rate groups 5 & 8 higher tbh.. 5 is very even and 8 has 3 very good players in it, who are IMHO better than the ones playing in grp 1. You can't be serious, honestly Rain has been in his best form since his MLG terror back in 2011 lately where he eats Foreigners for elevenses when he's able to channel his inner-cheese (when he can't hes an absolute nightmare) and TLO's form has been hot lately TLO had one good tourney lately, he still has a lot to proof. Fraer is slaying opponents left and right at EGMC, NightEnD has proven time after time, that he can beat compete with koreans (wins against Taeja, 3-0ing Puma) and Nerchio is probably the best player in this tournament. I think everyone of them would have a good chance to win, if they would place in group 1. Slaying people left and right? He's currently 2-1, it is the biggest exaggeration ever. Nerchio the best player? TheSTC Code S 2 seasons ago, Code A this season. Don't get me wrong I know nothing about the EU scene, but it seems like you're the exact same overseas Fraer is 5-1 in series in EG Master's Cup, he beat Nerchio, HasuObs, NightEnd, Thorzain and JonnyRecco (2-0 against everyone but Nerchio who took a game) and lost to Kas. You're wrong, he's not. I checked from Liquipedia so blame that for not updating but it still doesn't take away the fact you're comparing Fraer to Rain and TheSTC, it's laughable. Nerchio's good but he's not the best in the tournament and he's probably your only hope of the some Code B Koreans + TheSTC making a mockery of the EU scene Are you seriously saying Rain is better than Fraer atm.? His last achievment was about one year ago, he has about 100 elo less with recent losses to Grubby, Sheth, Sase, Strelok... >elo This is where your argument starts to fall apart.
My main argument was, that he lost to people, who are not better than Fraer and I though, while I am at TLPD, I could mention elo as well.
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On October 21 2012 01:49 Trashman420 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 01:44 WindWolf wrote:
What is the song on the stream called? I've heard in a mash-up Cities of the Future by Infected Mushroom
I found it out after you quoted my post, but thanks anyway
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predictions!
+ Show Spoiler +
A
1.TLO
2.Rain
B
1.Elfi
2.TargA
C
1.White
2.Monchi
D
1.MaNa
2.Naama
E
1.Sage
2.SortOf
F
1.TheStC
2.ParanOid
G
1.Bly
2.ClouD
H
1.Nerchio
2.NightEnD
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On October 21 2012 01:49 krutopatkin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 01:47 Trashman420 wrote:On October 21 2012 01:42 AlternativeEgo wrote:On October 21 2012 01:40 Trashman420 wrote:Prediction time! + Show Spoiler +
Group 1
Rain
TLO
BeastyQT
desRow
Group 2
Elfi
Targa
AureS
Starnan
Group 3
monchi
Mista
Censure
White
Group 4
Naama
MaNa
PoYo
Deathangel
Group 5
Sage
SortOf
Seiplo
Ziktomini
Group 6
ParanOid
TheSTC
Giantt
Darkthorn
Group 7
Cloud
Bly
Harstem
Tarra
Group 8
Fraer
Nerchio
NightenD
Evaner
Some good games ahead of us! Only name I strongly disagree with is Ziktomini. SortOf is the favourite, yeah. I just have a bad feeling for him. Also, Ziktomini did take out a few very strong zergs. Stephano and JRecco off the top of my head. But he lost to TLO in this very tournament, just did not really convince there tbh.
Yeah, but TLO is an absolute beast in games that don't matter much :p.
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On October 21 2012 01:47 Trashman420 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 01:42 AlternativeEgo wrote:On October 21 2012 01:40 Trashman420 wrote:Prediction time! + Show Spoiler +
Group 1
Rain
TLO
BeastyQT
desRow
Group 2
Elfi
Targa
AureS
Starnan
Group 3
monchi
Mista
Censure
White
Group 4
Naama
MaNa
PoYo
Deathangel
Group 5
Sage
SortOf
Seiplo
Ziktomini
Group 6
ParanOid
TheSTC
Giantt
Darkthorn
Group 7
Cloud
Bly
Harstem
Tarra
Group 8
Fraer
Nerchio
NightenD
Evaner
Some good games ahead of us! Only name I strongly disagree with is Ziktomini. SortOf is the favourite, yeah. I just have a bad feeling for him. Also, Ziktomini did take out a few very strong zergs. Stephano and JRecco off the top of my head.
I just haven't seen much of him, only a showmatch against VeraLynn DeathAngel. I've red that he does well on the island against his fellow brits.
..ohwait I did see him on WCS Europe. He had shaved his beard.
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On October 21 2012 01:50 Mackus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 01:45 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 01:35 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:30 StarVe wrote:On October 21 2012 01:26 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:19 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 01:07 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:04 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 00:50 Mackus wrote:
Group 1
Rain
TLO
BeastyQT
desRow
There's your group of death for this round. I´d rate groups 5 & 8 higher tbh.. 5 is very even and 8 has 3 very good players in it, who are IMHO better than the ones playing in grp 1. You can't be serious, honestly Rain has been in his best form since his MLG terror back in 2011 lately where he eats Foreigners for elevenses when he's able to channel his inner-cheese (when he can't hes an absolute nightmare) and TLO's form has been hot lately TLO had one good tourney lately, he still has a lot to proof. Fraer is slaying opponents left and right at EGMC, NightEnD has proven time after time, that he can beat compete with koreans (wins against Taeja, 3-0ing Puma) and Nerchio is probably the best player in this tournament. I think everyone of them would have a good chance to win, if they would place in group 1. Slaying people left and right? He's currently 2-1, it is the biggest exaggeration ever. Nerchio the best player? TheSTC Code S 2 seasons ago, Code A this season. Don't get me wrong I know nothing about the EU scene, but it seems like you're the exact same overseas Fraer is 5-1 in series in EG Master's Cup, he beat Nerchio, HasuObs, NightEnd, Thorzain and JonnyRecco (2-0 against everyone but Nerchio who took a game) and lost to Kas. You're wrong, he's not. I checked from Liquipedia so blame that for not updating but it still doesn't take away the fact you're comparing Fraer to Rain and TheSTC, it's laughable. Nerchio's good but he's not the best in the tournament and he's probably your only hope of the some Code B Koreans + TheSTC making a mockery of the EU scene Are you seriously saying Rain is better than Fraer atm.? His last achievment was about one year ago, he has about 100 elo less with recent losses to Grubby, Sheth, Sase, Strelok... 3-2 in GSTL 4-0 in IPL 3-2 in the EG MSC All in the past 5 weeks I did say Team Leagues. Also. Like the other guy said, using elo as part of your argument not such a great thing to do.
His GSTL wins were against Sirius, Brave and Salvation, his IPL wins were against Western wolves and he has a worse EGMC record than Fraer. He did nothing, a decent eurpean could´nt have done as well.
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Predictions
A. Rain, TLO
B. elfi, winner Targa/Starnan
C. Mista, someone (This is the group of life)
D. Naama, Mana
E. SorfOf, Sage
F. Thestc, Giantt
G. Bly, Cloud
H. Nerchio, Nightend
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On October 21 2012 01:56 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 01:50 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:45 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 01:35 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:30 StarVe wrote:On October 21 2012 01:26 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:19 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 01:07 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:04 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 00:50 Mackus wrote:
Group 1
Rain
TLO
BeastyQT
desRow
There's your group of death for this round. I´d rate groups 5 & 8 higher tbh.. 5 is very even and 8 has 3 very good players in it, who are IMHO better than the ones playing in grp 1. You can't be serious, honestly Rain has been in his best form since his MLG terror back in 2011 lately where he eats Foreigners for elevenses when he's able to channel his inner-cheese (when he can't hes an absolute nightmare) and TLO's form has been hot lately TLO had one good tourney lately, he still has a lot to proof. Fraer is slaying opponents left and right at EGMC, NightEnD has proven time after time, that he can beat compete with koreans (wins against Taeja, 3-0ing Puma) and Nerchio is probably the best player in this tournament. I think everyone of them would have a good chance to win, if they would place in group 1. Slaying people left and right? He's currently 2-1, it is the biggest exaggeration ever. Nerchio the best player? TheSTC Code S 2 seasons ago, Code A this season. Don't get me wrong I know nothing about the EU scene, but it seems like you're the exact same overseas Fraer is 5-1 in series in EG Master's Cup, he beat Nerchio, HasuObs, NightEnd, Thorzain and JonnyRecco (2-0 against everyone but Nerchio who took a game) and lost to Kas. You're wrong, he's not. I checked from Liquipedia so blame that for not updating but it still doesn't take away the fact you're comparing Fraer to Rain and TheSTC, it's laughable. Nerchio's good but he's not the best in the tournament and he's probably your only hope of the some Code B Koreans + TheSTC making a mockery of the EU scene Are you seriously saying Rain is better than Fraer atm.? His last achievment was about one year ago, he has about 100 elo less with recent losses to Grubby, Sheth, Sase, Strelok... 3-2 in GSTL 4-0 in IPL 3-2 in the EG MSC All in the past 5 weeks I did say Team Leagues. Also. Like the other guy said, using elo as part of your argument not such a great thing to do. His GSTL wins were against Sirius, Brave and Salvation, his IPL wins were against Western wolves and he has a worse EGMC record than Fraer. He did nothing, a decent eurpean could´nt have done as well.
The same Sirius who beat MMA last week who's a Code S champion, you're not making a great point with that
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On October 21 2012 01:57 Mackus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 01:56 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 01:50 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:45 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 01:35 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:30 StarVe wrote:On October 21 2012 01:26 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:19 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 01:07 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:04 Xoronius wrote:
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I´d rate groups 5 & 8 higher tbh.. 5 is very even and 8 has 3 very good players in it, who are IMHO better than the ones playing in grp 1. You can't be serious, honestly Rain has been in his best form since his MLG terror back in 2011 lately where he eats Foreigners for elevenses when he's able to channel his inner-cheese (when he can't hes an absolute nightmare) and TLO's form has been hot lately TLO had one good tourney lately, he still has a lot to proof. Fraer is slaying opponents left and right at EGMC, NightEnD has proven time after time, that he can beat compete with koreans (wins against Taeja, 3-0ing Puma) and Nerchio is probably the best player in this tournament. I think everyone of them would have a good chance to win, if they would place in group 1. Slaying people left and right? He's currently 2-1, it is the biggest exaggeration ever. Nerchio the best player? TheSTC Code S 2 seasons ago, Code A this season. Don't get me wrong I know nothing about the EU scene, but it seems like you're the exact same overseas Fraer is 5-1 in series in EG Master's Cup, he beat Nerchio, HasuObs, NightEnd, Thorzain and JonnyRecco (2-0 against everyone but Nerchio who took a game) and lost to Kas. You're wrong, he's not. I checked from Liquipedia so blame that for not updating but it still doesn't take away the fact you're comparing Fraer to Rain and TheSTC, it's laughable. Nerchio's good but he's not the best in the tournament and he's probably your only hope of the some Code B Koreans + TheSTC making a mockery of the EU scene Are you seriously saying Rain is better than Fraer atm.? His last achievment was about one year ago, he has about 100 elo less with recent losses to Grubby, Sheth, Sase, Strelok... 3-2 in GSTL 4-0 in IPL 3-2 in the EG MSC All in the past 5 weeks I did say Team Leagues. Also. Like the other guy said, using elo as part of your argument not such a great thing to do. His GSTL wins were against Sirius, Brave and Salvation, his IPL wins were against Western wolves and he has a worse EGMC record than Fraer. He did nothing, a decent eurpean could´nt have done as well. The same Sirius who beat MMA last week who's a Code S champion, you're not making a great point with that
Last weeks MMA is not the same MMA as then though. 
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Jorolo, hahaha!
Redeye is really awesome!
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On October 21 2012 01:57 Mackus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 01:56 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 01:50 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:45 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 01:35 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:30 StarVe wrote:On October 21 2012 01:26 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:19 Xoronius wrote:On October 21 2012 01:07 Mackus wrote:On October 21 2012 01:04 Xoronius wrote:
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I´d rate groups 5 & 8 higher tbh.. 5 is very even and 8 has 3 very good players in it, who are IMHO better than the ones playing in grp 1. You can't be serious, honestly Rain has been in his best form since his MLG terror back in 2011 lately where he eats Foreigners for elevenses when he's able to channel his inner-cheese (when he can't hes an absolute nightmare) and TLO's form has been hot lately TLO had one good tourney lately, he still has a lot to proof. Fraer is slaying opponents left and right at EGMC, NightEnD has proven time after time, that he can beat compete with koreans (wins against Taeja, 3-0ing Puma) and Nerchio is probably the best player in this tournament. I think everyone of them would have a good chance to win, if they would place in group 1. Slaying people left and right? He's currently 2-1, it is the biggest exaggeration ever. Nerchio the best player? TheSTC Code S 2 seasons ago, Code A this season. Don't get me wrong I know nothing about the EU scene, but it seems like you're the exact same overseas Fraer is 5-1 in series in EG Master's Cup, he beat Nerchio, HasuObs, NightEnd, Thorzain and JonnyRecco (2-0 against everyone but Nerchio who took a game) and lost to Kas. You're wrong, he's not. I checked from Liquipedia so blame that for not updating but it still doesn't take away the fact you're comparing Fraer to Rain and TheSTC, it's laughable. Nerchio's good but he's not the best in the tournament and he's probably your only hope of the some Code B Koreans + TheSTC making a mockery of the EU scene Are you seriously saying Rain is better than Fraer atm.? His last achievment was about one year ago, he has about 100 elo less with recent losses to Grubby, Sheth, Sase, Strelok... 3-2 in GSTL 4-0 in IPL 3-2 in the EG MSC All in the past 5 weeks I did say Team Leagues. Also. Like the other guy said, using elo as part of your argument not such a great thing to do. His GSTL wins were against Sirius, Brave and Salvation, his IPL wins were against Western wolves and he has a worse EGMC record than Fraer. He did nothing, a decent eurpean could´nt have done as well. The same Sirius who beat MMA last week who's a Code S champion, you're not making a great point with that
Fraer defeated GoOdy, who also defeated MMA. Transitive skill does not exist.
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