On October 21 2012 01:47 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Maybe weird thing to say here but I really dislike the format DH has. The first 10h of the tournament is filled with matches that are close to pointless and in general of lower quality even if they by an off chance would matter.

Okay so first argument arising; Do not watch it then!

Okay that is a point and actually I have not. However the tournament "must" run over two days. So because of this must the final 16 bracket tree be completed in probably shorter time then this first ro64 takes. Which result in the semifinal being a bo3 single elimination.

So what can happen, and did happen with Hero at DH summer, is that a player goes undefeated in the tournament and then loses 2-1 in a mirror in the quarter/semifinal. Hero was 20-0 maps before so his total result was 21-2 in the tournament and then he got exactly 0$. Besides is it really boring, say that theStC and Nerchio goes up in a semifinal. That is likely to be the best match of the tournament, anything less then a bo5 is underwhelming. And if it is a bo3 system there should be a lower bracket.

I actually do not get it because it is stupid on several layers. First a lot of low quality/unimportant matches are taking air time from the second group stage and the 16 bracket. Fewer people are watching the first group stage and therefor are the fewer viewers total and thus less income. Second is it just Booooring. Third is it less fair, the fact you can get knockout in a bo3 mirror after winning the first 20 maps and thus have win record above 90% is bullshit.

Have something else, have a small tournament before with only BYOC people and have the top 4 seeded into a group play or have more online qualifiers or most other things than this.

It's a true open tournament. What you are suggesting with the seeds would make it a hybrid, like Winter is gonna be.
If you have a problem with too few high end players on the first day try to convince your favourite teams to send someone next time.

Dexington

Canada7276 Posts

October 20 2012 17:09 GMT

#345

"Drones attempting to be roasted"

That is the opposite of what they are doing.

Mackus

England1681 Posts

October 20 2012 17:12 GMT

#346

On October 21 2012 02:03 Xoronius wrote:

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On October 21 2012 01:57 Mackus wrote:

On October 21 2012 01:56 Xoronius wrote:

On October 21 2012 01:50 Mackus wrote:

On October 21 2012 01:45 Xoronius wrote:

On October 21 2012 01:35 Mackus wrote:

On October 21 2012 01:30 StarVe wrote:

On October 21 2012 01:26 Mackus wrote:

On October 21 2012 01:19 Xoronius wrote:

On October 21 2012 01:07 Mackus wrote:
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You can't be serious, honestly Rain has been in his best form since his MLG terror back in 2011 lately where he eats Foreigners for elevenses when he's able to channel his inner-cheese (when he can't hes an absolute nightmare) and TLO's form has been hot lately

TLO had one good tourney lately, he still has a lot to proof. Fraer is slaying opponents left and right at EGMC, NightEnD has proven time after time, that he can beat compete with koreans (wins against Taeja, 3-0ing Puma) and Nerchio is probably the best player in this tournament. I think everyone of them would have a good chance to win, if they would place in group 1.

Slaying people left and right? He's currently 2-1, it is the biggest exaggeration ever. Nerchio the best player? TheSTC Code S 2 seasons ago, Code A this season.

Don't get me wrong I know nothing about the EU scene, but it seems like you're the exact same overseas

Fraer is 5-1 in series in EG Master's Cup, he beat Nerchio, HasuObs, NightEnd, Thorzain and JonnyRecco (2-0 against everyone but Nerchio who took a game) and lost to Kas.

You're wrong, he's not.

I checked from Liquipedia so blame that for not updating but it still doesn't take away the fact you're comparing Fraer to Rain and TheSTC, it's laughable. Nerchio's good but he's not the best in the tournament and he's probably your only hope of the some Code B Koreans + TheSTC making a mockery of the EU scene

Are you seriously saying Rain is better than Fraer atm.? His last achievment was about one year ago, he has about 100 elo less with recent losses to Grubby, Sheth, Sase, Strelok...

3-2 in GSTL
4-0 in IPL
3-2 in the EG MSC

All in the past 5 weeks

I did say Team Leagues. Also. Like the other guy said, using elo as part of your argument not such a great thing to do.

His GSTL wins were against Sirius, Brave and Salvation, his IPL wins were against Western wolves and he has a worse EGMC record than Fraer. He did nothing, a decent eurpean could´nt have done as well.

The same Sirius who beat MMA last week who's a Code S champion, you're not making a great point with that

Fraer defeated GoOdy, who also defeated MMA. Transitive skill does not exist.

Now you're just making outrageous comparisons - MMA was in Code S this season and he got annihilated by Sirius, and you only brought up the NSH players cos you don't actually know them, Salvation is pretty ok for someone who recruited via the Ladder the old-school way.

PhoenixVoid

Canada32740 Posts

October 20 2012 17:13 GMT

#347

Nice Mech play by Rain.

Dexington

Canada7276 Posts

October 20 2012 17:14 GMT

#348

I keep hearing random Gangnam Style sound clips.

r00ty

Germany1056 Posts

October 20 2012 17:14 GMT

#349

Jorosar makes me dizzy sometimes, but he's a great caster.

C'mon Dario!

Derrida

2885 Posts

October 20 2012 17:14 GMT

#350

On October 21 2012 02:14 Dexington wrote:
I keep hearing random Gangnam Style sound clips.

I did hear it also, watching the TLO game. it was like "WOP".

4ZakeN87

Sweden1071 Posts

October 20 2012 17:14 GMT

#351

On October 21 2012 02:08 Bromazepam wrote:

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Or they could just have fewer players total. Well I think the fact that we have this discussion on only the 17/18th page of this thread more then 10 hours into the first day of DH is making an argument for me.