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On November 11 2012 02:32 Mouzone wrote:When the South catches up in technology.
Or at the exact time I have to go, which is more likely even tho one does no exclude the other
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On November 11 2012 02:34 Derrida wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2012 02:32 Toxi78 wrote:On November 11 2012 02:26 TheBB wrote:On November 11 2012 02:22 Toxi78 wrote:On November 11 2012 02:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On November 11 2012 02:16 Sated wrote:On November 11 2012 02:15 TheBB wrote:After BK vs TheStC. + Show Spoiler +Lone Star Clash 2
Most likely winners:
Stephano: 41.656%
viOLet: 33.146%
Polt: 7.848%
TheStC: 6.464%
CranK: 5.216%
Bomber: 4.290%
BabyKnight: 0.492%
Sheth: 0.374%
Hawk: 0.206%
ToD: 0.106%
GanZi: 0.080%
Ret: 0.058%
NaNiwa: 0.032%
ThorZaIN: 0.020%
Axslav: 0.012%
qxc: 0.000%
Life expectancy:
Stephano: 5.576 rounds (top 2)
viOLet: 4.933 rounds (top 3)
Polt: 3.986 rounds (top 4)
CranK: 3.681 rounds (top 4)
TheStC: 2.988 rounds (top 6)
Bomber: 2.741 rounds (top 6)
Hawk: 1.882 rounds (top 8)
BabyKnight: 1.823 rounds (top 8)
GanZi: 1.647 rounds (top 8)
Ret: 1.469 rounds (top 12)
NaNiwa: 1.296 rounds (top 12)
Sheth: 1.250 rounds (top 12)
ToD: 1.017 rounds (top 12)
ThorZaIN: 0.928 rounds (top 12)
qxc: 0.476 rounds (top 16)
Axslav: 0.308 rounds (top 16)
What is that based on? International Elo well these stats are incredibly bullshit, tod having more "chances" to win the tournament than ganzi who was GSL TOP4 1 year ago, while tod has never accomplished anything ever on sc2. and god knows with what background i say this, im a french wc3 player. Pretty tired of hearing things like these. Sure, you have to take it with a grain of salt. I've said that like 20 times now. If it's based on international Elo, then it's necessarily based on performances in international tournaments. Does Ganzi have any to speak of? Not really. So it's not surprising that he is so unfavoured. Still, you'd be surprised how little a top 4 GSL placement a year past has to say. How good was Jinro a year after his? then there is something totally moronic about the way you actually get to these percentages? polt and stephano being in the same bracket, having 40% for stephano to win and 7% for polt to win makes little to no sense? just the fact that you throw out these statistics like it means anything is totally hilarious. why not compare the last 5 bo3s of the players (regardless of who they played) so you get their shape, then make a totally ridiculous stat in which lets say axslav won his last 5 matches and stephano lost his last 5 and have a ranking that adds up to 100% and doesnt look mathematically flawed yet makes no sense? the fact that mathematically your stats make sense doesn't mean that the method is not flawed. your statistics are bullshit, there is so much statistical bias in them that they are just worth laughing at. You're not very good at math are you?
Call the gedatsu!
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On November 11 2012 02:32 Toxi78 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2012 02:26 TheBB wrote:On November 11 2012 02:22 Toxi78 wrote:On November 11 2012 02:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On November 11 2012 02:16 Sated wrote:On November 11 2012 02:15 TheBB wrote:After BK vs TheStC. + Show Spoiler +Lone Star Clash 2
Most likely winners:
Stephano: 41.656%
viOLet: 33.146%
Polt: 7.848%
TheStC: 6.464%
CranK: 5.216%
Bomber: 4.290%
BabyKnight: 0.492%
Sheth: 0.374%
Hawk: 0.206%
ToD: 0.106%
GanZi: 0.080%
Ret: 0.058%
NaNiwa: 0.032%
ThorZaIN: 0.020%
Axslav: 0.012%
qxc: 0.000%
Life expectancy:
Stephano: 5.576 rounds (top 2)
viOLet: 4.933 rounds (top 3)
Polt: 3.986 rounds (top 4)
CranK: 3.681 rounds (top 4)
TheStC: 2.988 rounds (top 6)
Bomber: 2.741 rounds (top 6)
Hawk: 1.882 rounds (top 8)
BabyKnight: 1.823 rounds (top 8)
GanZi: 1.647 rounds (top 8)
Ret: 1.469 rounds (top 12)
NaNiwa: 1.296 rounds (top 12)
Sheth: 1.250 rounds (top 12)
ToD: 1.017 rounds (top 12)
ThorZaIN: 0.928 rounds (top 12)
qxc: 0.476 rounds (top 16)
Axslav: 0.308 rounds (top 16)
What is that based on? International Elo well these stats are incredibly bullshit, tod having more "chances" to win the tournament than ganzi who was GSL TOP4 1 year ago, while tod has never accomplished anything ever on sc2. and god knows with what background i say this, im a french wc3 player. Pretty tired of hearing things like these. Sure, you have to take it with a grain of salt. I've said that like 20 times now. If it's based on international Elo, then it's necessarily based on performances in international tournaments. Does Ganzi have any to speak of? Not really. So it's not surprising that he is so unfavoured. Still, you'd be surprised how little a top 4 GSL placement a year past has to say. How good was Jinro a year after his? then there is something totally moronic about the way you actually get to these percentages? polt and stephano being in the same bracket, having 40% for stephano to win and 7% for polt to win makes little to no sense? just the fact that you throw out these statistics like it means anything is totally hilarious. why not compare the last 5 bo3s of the players (regardless of who they played) so you get their shape, then make a totally ridiculous stat in which lets say axslav won his last 5 matches and stephano lost his last 5 and have a ranking that adds up to 100% and doesnt look mathematically flawed yet makes no sense? the fact that mathematically your stats make sense doesn't mean that the method is not flawed. your statistics are bullshit, there is so much statistical bias in them that they are just worth laughing at.
The hell is wrong with you?
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On November 11 2012 02:34 Derrida wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2012 02:32 Toxi78 wrote:On November 11 2012 02:26 TheBB wrote:On November 11 2012 02:22 Toxi78 wrote:On November 11 2012 02:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On November 11 2012 02:16 Sated wrote:On November 11 2012 02:15 TheBB wrote:After BK vs TheStC. + Show Spoiler +Lone Star Clash 2
Most likely winners:
Stephano: 41.656%
viOLet: 33.146%
Polt: 7.848%
TheStC: 6.464%
CranK: 5.216%
Bomber: 4.290%
BabyKnight: 0.492%
Sheth: 0.374%
Hawk: 0.206%
ToD: 0.106%
GanZi: 0.080%
Ret: 0.058%
NaNiwa: 0.032%
ThorZaIN: 0.020%
Axslav: 0.012%
qxc: 0.000%
Life expectancy:
Stephano: 5.576 rounds (top 2)
viOLet: 4.933 rounds (top 3)
Polt: 3.986 rounds (top 4)
CranK: 3.681 rounds (top 4)
TheStC: 2.988 rounds (top 6)
Bomber: 2.741 rounds (top 6)
Hawk: 1.882 rounds (top 8)
BabyKnight: 1.823 rounds (top 8)
GanZi: 1.647 rounds (top 8)
Ret: 1.469 rounds (top 12)
NaNiwa: 1.296 rounds (top 12)
Sheth: 1.250 rounds (top 12)
ToD: 1.017 rounds (top 12)
ThorZaIN: 0.928 rounds (top 12)
qxc: 0.476 rounds (top 16)
Axslav: 0.308 rounds (top 16)
What is that based on? International Elo well these stats are incredibly bullshit, tod having more "chances" to win the tournament than ganzi who was GSL TOP4 1 year ago, while tod has never accomplished anything ever on sc2. and god knows with what background i say this, im a french wc3 player. Pretty tired of hearing things like these. Sure, you have to take it with a grain of salt. I've said that like 20 times now. If it's based on international Elo, then it's necessarily based on performances in international tournaments. Does Ganzi have any to speak of? Not really. So it's not surprising that he is so unfavoured. Still, you'd be surprised how little a top 4 GSL placement a year past has to say. How good was Jinro a year after his? then there is something totally moronic about the way you actually get to these percentages? polt and stephano being in the same bracket, having 40% for stephano to win and 7% for polt to win makes little to no sense? just the fact that you throw out these statistics like it means anything is totally hilarious. why not compare the last 5 bo3s of the players (regardless of who they played) so you get their shape, then make a totally ridiculous stat in which lets say axslav won his last 5 matches and stephano lost his last 5 and have a ranking that adds up to 100% and doesnt look mathematically flawed yet makes no sense? the fact that mathematically your stats make sense doesn't mean that the method is not flawed. your statistics are bullshit, there is so much statistical bias in them that they are just worth laughing at. You're not very good at math are you?
care to elaborate?
this is going to be fun.
User was warned for this post
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On November 11 2012 02:33 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2012 02:32 Toxi78 wrote:On November 11 2012 02:26 TheBB wrote:On November 11 2012 02:22 Toxi78 wrote:On November 11 2012 02:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On November 11 2012 02:16 Sated wrote:On November 11 2012 02:15 TheBB wrote:After BK vs TheStC. + Show Spoiler +Lone Star Clash 2
Most likely winners:
Stephano: 41.656%
viOLet: 33.146%
Polt: 7.848%
TheStC: 6.464%
CranK: 5.216%
Bomber: 4.290%
BabyKnight: 0.492%
Sheth: 0.374%
Hawk: 0.206%
ToD: 0.106%
GanZi: 0.080%
Ret: 0.058%
NaNiwa: 0.032%
ThorZaIN: 0.020%
Axslav: 0.012%
qxc: 0.000%
Life expectancy:
Stephano: 5.576 rounds (top 2)
viOLet: 4.933 rounds (top 3)
Polt: 3.986 rounds (top 4)
CranK: 3.681 rounds (top 4)
TheStC: 2.988 rounds (top 6)
Bomber: 2.741 rounds (top 6)
Hawk: 1.882 rounds (top 8)
BabyKnight: 1.823 rounds (top 8)
GanZi: 1.647 rounds (top 8)
Ret: 1.469 rounds (top 12)
NaNiwa: 1.296 rounds (top 12)
Sheth: 1.250 rounds (top 12)
ToD: 1.017 rounds (top 12)
ThorZaIN: 0.928 rounds (top 12)
qxc: 0.476 rounds (top 16)
Axslav: 0.308 rounds (top 16)
What is that based on? International Elo well these stats are incredibly bullshit, tod having more "chances" to win the tournament than ganzi who was GSL TOP4 1 year ago, while tod has never accomplished anything ever on sc2. and god knows with what background i say this, im a french wc3 player. Pretty tired of hearing things like these. Sure, you have to take it with a grain of salt. I've said that like 20 times now. If it's based on international Elo, then it's necessarily based on performances in international tournaments. Does Ganzi have any to speak of? Not really. So it's not surprising that he is so unfavoured. Still, you'd be surprised how little a top 4 GSL placement a year past has to say. How good was Jinro a year after his? then there is something totally moronic about the way you actually get to these percentages? polt and stephano being in the same bracket, having 40% for stephano to win and 7% for polt to win makes little to no sense? just the fact that you throw out these statistics like it means anything is totally hilarious. why not compare the last 5 bo3s of the players (regardless of who they played) so you get their shape, then make a totally ridiculous stat in which lets say axslav won his last 5 matches and stephano lost his last 5 and have a ranking that adds up to 100% and doesnt look mathematically flawed yet makes no sense? the fact that mathematically your stats make sense doesn't mean that the method is not flawed. your statistics are bullshit, there is so much statistical bias in them that they are just worth laughing at. Calm down, Skeeter. It's all fun and games.
Now now Skeeter, he aint hurtin' no body.
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On November 11 2012 02:33 mrRoflpwn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2012 02:32 Mouzone wrote:On November 11 2012 02:31 Sakkreth wrote:
When is NaNiWa vs Hawk ? When the South catches up in technology. I'll have you know we have like the best internet in the country >.>
So you claim.
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Just woke up, Babyknight 2-0'd STC and Sheth took a map off Violet? Going pretty well for the foreigners so far.
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Guys someone is suppose to interview babyknight on the stream but they don't see him, help him/her out please!
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feels like im watching animal planet
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Im studying mathematic statistics right now with alot of focus on probability. Ask me anything
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People taking ELO talk so serious to call somebody else moronic is not as fun as Gedatsu math's challenge for sure.
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On November 11 2012 02:35 Toxi78 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2012 02:34 Derrida wrote:On November 11 2012 02:32 Toxi78 wrote:On November 11 2012 02:26 TheBB wrote:On November 11 2012 02:22 Toxi78 wrote:On November 11 2012 02:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On November 11 2012 02:16 Sated wrote:On November 11 2012 02:15 TheBB wrote:After BK vs TheStC. + Show Spoiler +Lone Star Clash 2
Most likely winners:
Stephano: 41.656%
viOLet: 33.146%
Polt: 7.848%
TheStC: 6.464%
CranK: 5.216%
Bomber: 4.290%
BabyKnight: 0.492%
Sheth: 0.374%
Hawk: 0.206%
ToD: 0.106%
GanZi: 0.080%
Ret: 0.058%
NaNiwa: 0.032%
ThorZaIN: 0.020%
Axslav: 0.012%
qxc: 0.000%
Life expectancy:
Stephano: 5.576 rounds (top 2)
viOLet: 4.933 rounds (top 3)
Polt: 3.986 rounds (top 4)
CranK: 3.681 rounds (top 4)
TheStC: 2.988 rounds (top 6)
Bomber: 2.741 rounds (top 6)
Hawk: 1.882 rounds (top 8)
BabyKnight: 1.823 rounds (top 8)
GanZi: 1.647 rounds (top 8)
Ret: 1.469 rounds (top 12)
NaNiwa: 1.296 rounds (top 12)
Sheth: 1.250 rounds (top 12)
ToD: 1.017 rounds (top 12)
ThorZaIN: 0.928 rounds (top 12)
qxc: 0.476 rounds (top 16)
Axslav: 0.308 rounds (top 16)
What is that based on? International Elo well these stats are incredibly bullshit, tod having more "chances" to win the tournament than ganzi who was GSL TOP4 1 year ago, while tod has never accomplished anything ever on sc2. and god knows with what background i say this, im a french wc3 player. Pretty tired of hearing things like these. Sure, you have to take it with a grain of salt. I've said that like 20 times now. If it's based on international Elo, then it's necessarily based on performances in international tournaments. Does Ganzi have any to speak of? Not really. So it's not surprising that he is so unfavoured. Still, you'd be surprised how little a top 4 GSL placement a year past has to say. How good was Jinro a year after his? then there is something totally moronic about the way you actually get to these percentages? polt and stephano being in the same bracket, having 40% for stephano to win and 7% for polt to win makes little to no sense? just the fact that you throw out these statistics like it means anything is totally hilarious. why not compare the last 5 bo3s of the players (regardless of who they played) so you get their shape, then make a totally ridiculous stat in which lets say axslav won his last 5 matches and stephano lost his last 5 and have a ranking that adds up to 100% and doesnt look mathematically flawed yet makes no sense? the fact that mathematically your stats make sense doesn't mean that the method is not flawed. your statistics are bullshit, there is so much statistical bias in them that they are just worth laughing at. You're not very good at math are you? care to elaborate? this is going to be fun.
It starts here
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On November 11 2012 02:32 Toxi78 wrote:
then there is something totally moronic about the way you actually get to these percentages? polt and stephano being in the same bracket, having 40% for stephano to win and 7% for polt to win makes little to no sense?
just the fact that you throw out these statistics like it means anything is totally hilarious.
why not compare the last 5 bo3s of the players (regardless of who they played) so you get their shape, then make a totally ridiculous stat in which lets say axslav won his last 5 matches and stephano lost his last 5 and have a ranking that adds up to 100% and doesnt look mathematically flawed yet makes no sense?
the fact that mathematically your stats make sense doesn't mean that the method is not flawed.
your statistics are bullshit, there is so much statistical bias in them that they are just worth laughing at.
The method is described in detail here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=380850
Feel free to make specific and constructive criticism there instead of polluting this thread. I never claimed they mean anything. It's up to everyone to interpret them as they please.
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On November 11 2012 02:36 Coolhwip wrote:
Im studying mathematic statistics right now with alot of focus on probability. Ask me anything
what's the probability of people starting to argue about statistics in this thread?
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On November 11 2012 02:35 Dodgin wrote:
Just woke up, Babyknight 2-0'd STC and Sheth took a map off Violet? Going pretty well for the foreigners so far.
It's called jet lag.
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god damnit that twitch chat is so fucking retarded it's actually funny. lol
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One more shirt button, please.
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On November 11 2012 02:36 n0ise wrote:
feels like im watching animal planet
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On November 11 2012 02:38 clocked wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2012 02:35 Dodgin wrote:
Just woke up, Babyknight 2-0'd STC and Sheth took a map off Violet? Going pretty well for the foreigners so far. It's called jet lag.
STC has probably been in the US for over a week now given he was playing in MLG. Doesn't Violet live in the US?
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