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Evil Geniuses Master's Cup Series League - Season VIIITuesday, Sep 25 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)Website: http://mcsl.evilgeniuses.net/Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametvCasters: iNcontroL
FormatThe Evil Geniuses Master’s Cup Series League will feature 12 teams in a round robin format with each team matchup containing at least four best of three games between two teams. The top four teams at the end of the season will advance to the playoffs on a two day live broadcast weekend.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/L6Pww.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mgq38.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rk5yz.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/h3JH4.png)  Bly <GSL Cloud Kingdom>  MaSa + Show Spoiler + Nerchio <GSL Ohana> MajOr + Show Spoiler + Nerchio <GSL Ohana> MajOrNerchio <GSL Antiga Shipyard> MajOr ParanOid <GSL Entombed Valley> ViBE + Show Spoiler + Scarlett <GSL Antiga Shipyard>  PuCk + Show Spoiler +Final Score:
+ Show Spoiler +Ace: Nerchio <GSL Daybreak> ViBE Nerchio <GSL Antiga Shipyard> ViBEAcer wins 3-2
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/10oCI.png) Poll: Who do you think will win?Acer (56) 58% ROOT (41) 42% 97 total votes Your vote: Who do you think will win? (Vote): Acer
(Vote): ROOT
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Oh shit I feel sorry for ROOT 
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Go Acer, crush them like they are nothing! :D Fun to root for Acer in team leagues.
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Shit, I thought Empire vs RoX.KIS would be today, why do you post threads for later matches earlier than this one? 
Anyway, Acer should be favoured, but ROOT could do it if they get a bit lucky.
3-1 or 3-2 for Acer.
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GL everyone. Should be some great matches 
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Masa and Vibe should win, so if Major can beat Nerchio then 3-2 for Root. But if Nerchio beats Major which is more likely, then 3-2 for Acer I think.
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Now that DH has switched to Zerg, Acer has finally become what it alwas was at heart: an all-Zerg team :D Root will probably put up a good fight at the least, though. If they can somehow defeat Nerchio, their chances to win aren't bad..
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Bly 1 - 2 MaSa
Nerchio 1 - 2 MajOr
ParanOid 0 - 2 ViBe
Scarlett 2 - 1 puCK
Going to be some good games, can't wait :D
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Acer 3-2 ROOT in my opinion.
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Puck is finally playing in the EG MCSL :D. Too bad he has to play Scarlett though =/
Root 3-1
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I think the first two matches could go either way, though Acer has to be favoured in both of them. Vibe should beat Paranoid and Scarlett should beat Puck.
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Should go to ace in which nerchio takes it for acer
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Russian Federation601 Posts
On September 25 2012 07:14 Edahspmal wrote:
Bly 1 - 2 MaSa
Nerchio 1 - 2 MajOr
ParanOid 0 - 2 ViBe
Scarlett 2 - 1 puCK
Going to be some good games, can't wait :D
)))))))
acer 3-0
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I guess 3-0, but MAYBE 3-1 for acer. Bly and Nerchio won't lose, and PranOid has really strong ZvZ.
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accer really is a very good team but Root should win masa and vibe really shouldn't lose and major vs nerchio could go either way but i believe in major so he should win too. then again root should of won vs dignitas as well so anything could happen.
going to have to predict a 3-1 just becuase i haven't seen enough of puck to pick him above scarlett
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On September 25 2012 08:04 magicallypuzzled wrote:
accer really is a very good team but Root should win masa and vibe really shouldn't lose and major vs nerchio could go either way but i believe in major so he should win too. then again root should of won vs dignitas as well so anything could happen.
Acer is way better than dignitas.
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On September 25 2012 08:05 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:04 magicallypuzzled wrote:
accer really is a very good team but Root should win masa and vibe really shouldn't lose and major vs nerchio could go either way but i believe in major so he should win too. then again root should of won vs dignitas as well so anything could happen. Acer is way better than dignitas.
that would be the point Root was suppose to win that game given that they underpreformed so much there they might well underpreform here as well.
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This should go to an ace match where nerchio takes it for acer!
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On September 25 2012 08:04 magicallypuzzled wrote:
accer really is a very good team but Root should win masa and vibe really shouldn't lose and major vs nerchio could go either way but i believe in major so he should win too. then again root should of won vs dignitas as well so anything could happen.
going to have to predict a 3-1 just becuase i haven't seen enough of puck to pick him above scarlett
Huh? You really think Masa obviously beats Bly? Bly is a damn good zerg man. Top 12 WCS Europe, Top 16 DreamHack Valencia. I also think you are overrating Major a little. Major could win, but Nerchio is clearly favored in that matchup. The only "shouldn't lose" here is that Scarlett shouldn't lose to Puck.
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2 good teams for sure! hope for some good games ! <3<3
btw catz such an handsome little boy
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masa has scary scary tvz it's probably his best matchup and we are talking about some one how has 2-1 alive 2-0 thorzain and whent 1-2 against jonnyrecco and has something like ten more wins then loses against vibe who is I think quite abit better then bly maybe i am wrong as i haven't seen much of bly but got to think masa should defintely win
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On September 25 2012 08:28 Chytilova wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:04 magicallypuzzled wrote:
accer really is a very good team but Root should win masa and vibe really shouldn't lose and major vs nerchio could go either way but i believe in major so he should win too. then again root should of won vs dignitas as well so anything could happen.
going to have to predict a 3-1 just becuase i haven't seen enough of puck to pick him above scarlett Huh? You really think Masa obviously beats Bly? Bly is a damn good zerg man. Top 12 WCS Europe, Top 16 DreamHack Valencia. I also think you are overrating Major a little. Major could win, but Nerchio is clearly favored in that matchup. The only "shouldn't lose" here is that Scarlett shouldn't lose to Puck.
Major won wcs Mexico. Nerchio hasn't won anything serious.
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I can definitely see this going to an ace match.
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ROOT4ROOT ! Root will win !
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On September 25 2012 08:47 brokeception wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:28 Chytilova wrote:On September 25 2012 08:04 magicallypuzzled wrote:
accer really is a very good team but Root should win masa and vibe really shouldn't lose and major vs nerchio could go either way but i believe in major so he should win too. then again root should of won vs dignitas as well so anything could happen.
going to have to predict a 3-1 just becuase i haven't seen enough of puck to pick him above scarlett Huh? You really think Masa obviously beats Bly? Bly is a damn good zerg man. Top 12 WCS Europe, Top 16 DreamHack Valencia. I also think you are overrating Major a little. Major could win, but Nerchio is clearly favored in that matchup. The only "shouldn't lose" here is that Scarlett shouldn't lose to Puck. Major won wcs Mexico. Nerchio hasn't won anything serious.
Is that supposed to be sarcastic?
What is serious about WCS Mexico where Major is basically the only notable player?
Nerchio won a Homestory Cup.
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On September 25 2012 08:47 brokeception wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:28 Chytilova wrote:On September 25 2012 08:04 magicallypuzzled wrote:
accer really is a very good team but Root should win masa and vibe really shouldn't lose and major vs nerchio could go either way but i believe in major so he should win too. then again root should of won vs dignitas as well so anything could happen.
going to have to predict a 3-1 just becuase i haven't seen enough of puck to pick him above scarlett Huh? You really think Masa obviously beats Bly? Bly is a damn good zerg man. Top 12 WCS Europe, Top 16 DreamHack Valencia. I also think you are overrating Major a little. Major could win, but Nerchio is clearly favored in that matchup. The only "shouldn't lose" here is that Scarlett shouldn't lose to Puck. Major won wcs Mexico. Nerchio hasn't won anything serious.
Hmmmm... good point.
=)
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On September 25 2012 08:52 00Visor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:47 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:28 Chytilova wrote:On September 25 2012 08:04 magicallypuzzled wrote:
accer really is a very good team but Root should win masa and vibe really shouldn't lose and major vs nerchio could go either way but i believe in major so he should win too. then again root should of won vs dignitas as well so anything could happen.
going to have to predict a 3-1 just becuase i haven't seen enough of puck to pick him above scarlett Huh? You really think Masa obviously beats Bly? Bly is a damn good zerg man. Top 12 WCS Europe, Top 16 DreamHack Valencia. I also think you are overrating Major a little. Major could win, but Nerchio is clearly favored in that matchup. The only "shouldn't lose" here is that Scarlett shouldn't lose to Puck. Major won wcs Mexico. Nerchio hasn't won anything serious. Is that supposed to be sarcastic? What is serious about WCS Mexico where Major is basically the only notable player? Nerchio won a Homestory Cup.
Yea because being the only sober person out of 15 drunk people is like winning against a whole country. Everyone knows hsc is for having a good time and nerchio doesn't drink so... Everyone else was drunk so nerchio took advantage of that. Had everyone else been sober he would have been last
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On September 25 2012 08:52 00Visor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:47 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:28 Chytilova wrote:On September 25 2012 08:04 magicallypuzzled wrote:
accer really is a very good team but Root should win masa and vibe really shouldn't lose and major vs nerchio could go either way but i believe in major so he should win too. then again root should of won vs dignitas as well so anything could happen.
going to have to predict a 3-1 just becuase i haven't seen enough of puck to pick him above scarlett Huh? You really think Masa obviously beats Bly? Bly is a damn good zerg man. Top 12 WCS Europe, Top 16 DreamHack Valencia. I also think you are overrating Major a little. Major could win, but Nerchio is clearly favored in that matchup. The only "shouldn't lose" here is that Scarlett shouldn't lose to Puck. Major won wcs Mexico. Nerchio hasn't won anything serious. Is that supposed to be sarcastic? What is serious about WCS Mexico where Major is basically the only notable player? Nerchio won a Homestory Cup.
Yes it is sarcasm. He is blatantly trolling. No one should be falling for this.
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On September 25 2012 08:47 brokeception wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:28 Chytilova wrote:On September 25 2012 08:04 magicallypuzzled wrote:
accer really is a very good team but Root should win masa and vibe really shouldn't lose and major vs nerchio could go either way but i believe in major so he should win too. then again root should of won vs dignitas as well so anything could happen.
going to have to predict a 3-1 just becuase i haven't seen enough of puck to pick him above scarlett Huh? You really think Masa obviously beats Bly? Bly is a damn good zerg man. Top 12 WCS Europe, Top 16 DreamHack Valencia. I also think you are overrating Major a little. Major could win, but Nerchio is clearly favored in that matchup. The only "shouldn't lose" here is that Scarlett shouldn't lose to Puck. Major won wcs Mexico. Nerchio hasn't won anything serious.
Yeah you're right, Nerchio is pretty crap. I mean his 2nd place in IEM Cologne VII for instance was such an embarassment, he only won his group with ForGG, PuMa, DeMuslim etc. in it, then 3-0'd MC in the quarterfinal and took out viOLet in the semi... Obviously this noob stands no chance against MajOr.
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On September 25 2012 08:57 brokeception wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:52 00Visor wrote:On September 25 2012 08:47 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:28 Chytilova wrote:On September 25 2012 08:04 magicallypuzzled wrote:
accer really is a very good team but Root should win masa and vibe really shouldn't lose and major vs nerchio could go either way but i believe in major so he should win too. then again root should of won vs dignitas as well so anything could happen.
going to have to predict a 3-1 just becuase i haven't seen enough of puck to pick him above scarlett Huh? You really think Masa obviously beats Bly? Bly is a damn good zerg man. Top 12 WCS Europe, Top 16 DreamHack Valencia. I also think you are overrating Major a little. Major could win, but Nerchio is clearly favored in that matchup. The only "shouldn't lose" here is that Scarlett shouldn't lose to Puck. Major won wcs Mexico. Nerchio hasn't won anything serious. Is that supposed to be sarcastic? What is serious about WCS Mexico where Major is basically the only notable player? Nerchio won a Homestory Cup. Yea because being the only sober person out of 15 drunk people is like winning against a whole country. Everyone knows hsc is for having a good time and nerchio doesn't drink so... Everyone else was drunk so nerchio took advantage of that. Had everyone else been sober he would have been last
Another salient point. I may have to reconsider the misleading evidence that I have been compiling in order to judge the true worthiness of Nerchio as a competitor in the Starcraft 2 scene.
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You kids are misunderstanding me...nerchio isn't a bad player by any means, its just that most players are better than him.
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iNcontroL
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I will be solo casting this.. be gentle folks.. it's hard to do! But these mu's make me excited.
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Good...incontrol is a top 5 caster. That other guy was just holding him back. Finally some quality casting. Get idra or demuslim or Huk or stephano to cast
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Haha, starception is back, I love it. Always fun to see people trying to debate you.
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On September 25 2012 09:23 StarVe wrote:
Haha, starception is back, I love it. Always fun to see people trying to debate you.
I was certainly having fun :D
I cannot wait for all the ZvX either! Go Acer!
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On September 25 2012 09:23 StarVe wrote:
Haha, starception is back, I love it. Always fun to see people trying to debate you.
thanks for acknowledging my almighty presence.
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I wish this wasnt so late for us europeans. Cant see Acer losing this. Nerchio, Bly and Scarlett to strong to handle for root.
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On September 25 2012 09:29 starception wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 09:23 StarVe wrote:
Haha, starception is back, I love it. Always fun to see people trying to debate you. thanks for acknowledging my almighty presence.
Oh god, I'm seeing double.
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On September 25 2012 09:44 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 09:29 starception wrote:On September 25 2012 09:23 StarVe wrote:
Haha, starception is back, I love it. Always fun to see people trying to debate you. thanks for acknowledging my almighty presence. Oh god, I'm seeing double.
what are you talking about?
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On September 25 2012 09:44 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 09:29 starception wrote:On September 25 2012 09:23 StarVe wrote:
Haha, starception is back, I love it. Always fun to see people trying to debate you. thanks for acknowledging my almighty presence. Oh god, I'm seeing double.
How are you seeing double???
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scarlett vs puck, the transgender showdown. should be fun, looking forward to it
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As great as acer is im gonna have to go with root on this one. Root beat eg which isnt an easy task
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Root gonna win. So long as they don't derp and send anyone except major out in the ace match. But if they're lucky, masa major and vibe all win the first time and they get a 3-1.
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pumped for puck vs scarlett
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Lol I turned the stream on, and what I see is not acer vs root but infestor playing football  WTF
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I am super pumped for Scarlett!
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ROOT is the underdog here based on any reasonable estimate, they can win, but anyone who thinks they are favoured does not really know much about non-US SC2 scene.
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Acer making the overmind proud
lets go zerg brothers
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People are really underestimating the fact that ROOT has the ability to game plan and prepare for an all Zerg line-up from ACER.
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I don't understand how anyone can call this as a win for Acer. ROOT has the superior lineup.
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Bly has been impressive recently and Masa lost both his series against Dignitas (0-2 Select, 1-2 JonnyRecco) so 2-1 Bly
Major's been playing pretty well recently but I think Nerchio is clearly the favorite so 2-1 Nerchio.
Vibe plays a really good ZvZ (beating all comers but Scarlett at WCS NA) and forgive me for my ignorance but I dont really know who Paranoid is so 2-0 Vibe
Haven't really seen Puck recently and Scarlett is destroying everything in her path (ref. WCS Canada, NA) so 2-0 Scarlett
Overall 3-1 Acer, although I would love to see Root force the ace match.
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Lol Bly Macro like in bronze :D
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Dude, there are two Incontrols! Freaky!
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On September 25 2012 10:48 Sbrubbles wrote:
Dude, there are two Incontrols! Freaky!
Three:p
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On September 25 2012 10:43 Darkhoarse wrote:
Bly has been impressive recently and Masa lost both his series against Dignitas (0-2 Select, 1-2 JonnyRecco) so 2-1 Bly
Major's been playing pretty well recently but I think Nerchio is clearly the favorite so 2-1 Nerchio.
Vibe plays a really good ZvZ (beating all comers but Scarlett at WCS NA) and forgive me for my ignorance but I dont really know who Paranoid is so 2-0 Vibe
Haven't really seen Puck recently and Scarlett is destroying everything in her path (ref. WCS Canada, NA) so 2-0 Scarlett
Overall 3-1 Acer, although I would love to see Root force the ace match.
So I decided to make my prediction before turning on the stream so I wouldn't make a biased prediction for the first series. I turned on the series just in time to see Bly gg.
Fuuuuuuuuuuu
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Terran up sixty supply without any engagements, wtf was Bly doing? Certainly not the usual Zerg things...
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On September 25 2012 10:33 mcc wrote:
ROOT is the underdog here based on any reasonable estimate, they can win, but anyone who thinks they are favoured does not really know much about non-US SC2 scene.
perhaps you just don;t know enough about the non-europe scene?
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On September 25 2012 10:42 GunPaladin wrote:
I don't understand how anyone can call this as a win for Acer. ROOT has the superior lineup.
They might have superior line up but they also have little answer for Nerchio / Scarlett combo. The chance of them going 2-0 and then win the ace match even if Bly / ParanOid lose is better than 50% imoh.
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On September 25 2012 10:51 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 10:42 GunPaladin wrote:
I don't understand how anyone can call this as a win for Acer. ROOT has the superior lineup. They might have superior line up but they also have little answer for Nerchio / Scarlett combo. The chance of them going 2-0 and then win the ace match even if Bly / ParanOid lose is better than 50% imoh.
Major vs Nerchio is definitely a 50-50 match.
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On September 25 2012 10:36 bokchoi wrote:
People are really underestimating the fact that ROOT has the ability to game plan and prepare for an all Zerg line-up from ACER.
That would be great if those two teams had similarly strong players. But Acer has two players far above whatever ROOT can throw at them and only 2 wins are necessary to force ace match.
Anyway Bly played very strange game, it was like he was drunk. Masa outclassed him more than Taeja did at DH Valencia and since I doubt Masa is better than Taeja I think Bly is playing terribly
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iNcontrol solo cast is actually pretty good.
Really suprised to see the EBay block, haven't seen one of those in weeks.
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On September 25 2012 10:52 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 10:51 ragz_gt wrote:On September 25 2012 10:42 GunPaladin wrote:
I don't understand how anyone can call this as a win for Acer. ROOT has the superior lineup. They might have superior line up but they also have little answer for Nerchio / Scarlett combo. The chance of them going 2-0 and then win the ace match even if Bly / ParanOid lose is better than 50% imoh. Major vs Nerchio is definitely a 50-50 match.
Major is good but Nerchio is top 3 ZvT foreigner for sure. Calling it a 50-50 is a bit much.
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On September 25 2012 10:49 magicallypuzzled wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 10:33 mcc wrote:
ROOT is the underdog here based on any reasonable estimate, they can win, but anyone who thinks they are favoured does not really know much about non-US SC2 scene. perhaps you just don;t know enough about the non-europe scene?
What is it that I do not know ? But you are correct I do not know much about Puck, I know enough about the rest of the players. Nerchio and Scarlett are top level foreigner players, the rest in both teams are not. Easy math to see that Acer is favoured.
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On September 25 2012 10:56 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 10:52 JJH777 wrote:On September 25 2012 10:51 ragz_gt wrote:On September 25 2012 10:42 GunPaladin wrote:
I don't understand how anyone can call this as a win for Acer. ROOT has the superior lineup. They might have superior line up but they also have little answer for Nerchio / Scarlett combo. The chance of them going 2-0 and then win the ace match even if Bly / ParanOid lose is better than 50% imoh. Major vs Nerchio is definitely a 50-50 match. Major is good but Nerchio is top 3 ZvT foreigner for sure. Calling it a 50-50 is a bit much.
Major beat Hyun.
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On September 25 2012 10:58 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 10:56 ragz_gt wrote:On September 25 2012 10:52 JJH777 wrote:On September 25 2012 10:51 ragz_gt wrote:On September 25 2012 10:42 GunPaladin wrote:
I don't understand how anyone can call this as a win for Acer. ROOT has the superior lineup. They might have superior line up but they also have little answer for Nerchio / Scarlett combo. The chance of them going 2-0 and then win the ace match even if Bly / ParanOid lose is better than 50% imoh. Major vs Nerchio is definitely a 50-50 match. Major is good but Nerchio is top 3 ZvT foreigner for sure. Calling it a 50-50 is a bit much. Major beat Hyun.
And lost to Idra no ? one BoX is not really good way to judge. He has no consistent results comparable to Nerchio. Of course he can win, he is one of the best foreigner terrans, but he IS an underdog.
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On September 25 2012 10:58 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 10:56 ragz_gt wrote:On September 25 2012 10:52 JJH777 wrote:On September 25 2012 10:51 ragz_gt wrote:On September 25 2012 10:42 GunPaladin wrote:
I don't understand how anyone can call this as a win for Acer. ROOT has the superior lineup. They might have superior line up but they also have little answer for Nerchio / Scarlett combo. The chance of them going 2-0 and then win the ace match even if Bly / ParanOid lose is better than 50% imoh. Major vs Nerchio is definitely a 50-50 match. Major is good but Nerchio is top 3 ZvT foreigner for sure. Calling it a 50-50 is a bit much. Major 3-0'd Hyun.
Only after being down 0-2 in that series. Overall he is 5-10 vs Hyun.
Proving something with single results is silly.
I would give the advantage clearly to Nerchio. Only cross-server could change this.
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On September 25 2012 10:58 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 10:56 ragz_gt wrote:On September 25 2012 10:52 JJH777 wrote:On September 25 2012 10:51 ragz_gt wrote:On September 25 2012 10:42 GunPaladin wrote:
I don't understand how anyone can call this as a win for Acer. ROOT has the superior lineup. They might have superior line up but they also have little answer for Nerchio / Scarlett combo. The chance of them going 2-0 and then win the ace match even if Bly / ParanOid lose is better than 50% imoh. Major vs Nerchio is definitely a 50-50 match. Major is good but Nerchio is top 3 ZvT foreigner for sure. Calling it a 50-50 is a bit much. Major beat Hyun.
If you mean TSL4, he won 3-2
Then he lost 1-5 HyuN in Fight Club
And he got destroyed in NASL qualifier 1-3
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Bly's play is so sloppy it's ugly to watch.
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The sound is off. Not only are the sound effects too low, but the Mike also sounds very low quality. I'm sure the equipment is good, maybe something is wrong with the settings? Or the room they're talking in?
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Masa killed the ultralisk cavern with his first drop, incontrol.
Ugh, Bly playing awful today, never seen him that bad.
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Really whacky play by Bly.
Masa really one of the up-and-coming players in NA. As a terran!
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BAM!
Hope Nerchio and MajOr is a lot more interesting and better play ;D
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wow Bly... really disappointing showing
iNc also missing a few things in his casting too >_<
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On September 25 2012 11:11 GenesisX wrote:wow Bly... really disappointing showing iNc also missing a few things in his casting too >_<
Solocasting is hard.
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nice to say Masa getting some non-ladder game time.
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On September 25 2012 11:11 GenesisX wrote:wow Bly... really disappointing showing iNc also missing a few things in his casting too >_<
I actually think he's doing really good job :p I'm at least enjoying it.
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On September 25 2012 11:12 ThePlayer33 wrote:
nice to say Masa getting some non-ladder game time.
NASL too
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it's tough to see how incontrol muscled his way to a WCG USA victory. i don't think he knows how the game works. that could just be sc2.
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On September 25 2012 10:56 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 10:49 magicallypuzzled wrote:On September 25 2012 10:33 mcc wrote:
ROOT is the underdog here based on any reasonable estimate, they can win, but anyone who thinks they are favoured does not really know much about non-US SC2 scene. perhaps you just don;t know enough about the non-europe scene? What is it that I do not know ? But you are correct I do not know much about Puck, I know enough about the rest of the players. Nerchio and Scarlett are top level foreigner players, the rest in both teams are not. Easy math to see that Acer is favoured.
well for one thing you don't know Root is favored vs accer.
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iNcontroL
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On September 25 2012 11:14 YokoKano wrote:
it's tough to see how incontrol muscled his way to a WCG USA victory. i don't think he knows how the game works. that could just be sc2.
go away troll lol
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On September 25 2012 11:15 magicallypuzzled wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 10:56 mcc wrote:On September 25 2012 10:49 magicallypuzzled wrote:On September 25 2012 10:33 mcc wrote:
ROOT is the underdog here based on any reasonable estimate, they can win, but anyone who thinks they are favoured does not really know much about non-US SC2 scene. perhaps you just don;t know enough about the non-europe scene? What is it that I do not know ? But you are correct I do not know much about Puck, I know enough about the rest of the players. Nerchio and Scarlett are top level foreigner players, the rest in both teams are not. Easy math to see that Acer is favoured. well for one thing you don't know Root is favored vs accer.
No, they're still not.
If they win, Root pulled off a small upset.
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If Nerchio does it I think Acer has this in the bag. If MajOr wins then I think ROOT has this in the bag.
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Hahaha Incontrol's Nerchio story was pure gold
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On September 25 2012 11:18 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
If Nerchio does it I think Acer has this in the bag. If MajOr wins then I think ROOT has this in the bag.
Nerchio will still have to beat Major again in the ace match even if he wins this.
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Major has barely been making it by vikings, so I'm not sure if Ultras are the best choice right now.
D: Or apparently they are. Why siege in that case though. I thought spreading out unsieged tanks is better against ultras.
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On September 25 2012 11:37 Chicane wrote:
Major has barely been making it by vikings, so I'm not sure if Ultras are the best choice right now.
D: Or apparently they are. Why siege in that case though. I thought spreading out unsieged tanks is better against ultras.
Worked out pretty good...
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Nerchio playing the same way like vs Demuslim. Major was a bit better tho, but still got trolled
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Need hellions to buffer for your tanks, if you got those the Ultras get wiped out.
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Love Nerchio's patience, no need to crush Major just let him dry up.
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very nice play by nerchio
and yeah i don't see puck winning against scarlett so looks like it's all up to vibe to force the ace match i think he should win and i'd love to see who root would choose as ace.
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eh incontrol way below the belt bringing up your 2 wins from 4 gate. you dodged my challenge to a show match and smurfed me in WCG (tsavonglah).
let's face it, if I hadn't been inappropriately knocked out by a mismanaged round robin at the austin event, I'd have been a national finalist that year.
Next year I qualified for regionals, didn't receive my automatic advancement to nationals and then got eliminated by Idra playing vs him with a hangover when I got moved to an unannounced online regionals replacement. After the poor management of WCG i don't think you can bring up my tournament performance.
i'm ready to showmatch you any day of the week even though I've just been practicing for like 5 days. don't get so cocky. you still owe me a j, and don't forget it.
obviously there's no shame in dropping best of 3s vs lz in a higher pressure first lan of my life, let alone a LAN in texas. if i'd been allowed to play the pvps i was entitled to, i'd have advanced no problem.
ok to be fair this is all in good sport. i know i'm not allowed to rescind remarks about evil geniuses players. on account of the curse, i'll understand if jeoff refuses to accept my challenge.
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don't forget my operation rolling reavers with the double frontal robo on longinus. i won't be so forgiving in our next games.
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On September 25 2012 12:13 YokoKano wrote:
eh incontrol way below the belt bringing up your 2 wins from 4 gate. you dodged my challenge to a show match and smurfed me in WCG. let's face it, if I hadn't been inappropriately knocked out by a mismanaged round robin that put me in my weakest MU (PvZ) I'd have been a national finalist that year.
Next year I qualified for regionals, didn't receive my automatic advancement to nationals and then got eliminated by Idra playing vs him with a hangover when I got moved to an unannounced online regionals replacement. After the poor management of WCG i don't think you can bring up my tournament performance.
i'm ready to showmatch you any day of the week even though I've just been practicing for like 5 days. don't get so cocky. you still owe me a j, and don't forget it.
lol wut
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Meh, I think Paranoid could have had that if he macroed better when he was attacking with roaches. He had 800 mins at the end of the attack, so if those had been earlier drones, he could have capitalised on the advantage. Still, well played by Vibe.
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anyone gettin choppiness from stream on 720p-1080p? or is it me ?
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On September 25 2012 12:13 YokoKano wrote:
eh incontrol way below the belt bringing up your 2 wins from 4 gate. you dodged my challenge to a show match and smurfed me in WCG (tsavonglah).
let's face it, if I hadn't been inappropriately knocked out by a mismanaged round robin at the austin event, I'd have been a national finalist that year.
Next year I qualified for regionals, didn't receive my automatic advancement to nationals and then got eliminated by Idra playing vs him with a hangover when I got moved to an unannounced online regionals replacement. After the poor management of WCG i don't think you can bring up my tournament performance.
i'm ready to showmatch you any day of the week even though I've just been practicing for like 5 days. don't get so cocky. you still owe me a j, and don't forget it.
obviously there's no shame in dropping best of 3s vs lz in a higher pressure first lan of my life, let alone a LAN in texas. if i'd been allowed to play the pvps i was entitled to, i'd have advanced no problem.
Who are you and what are you talking about?
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On September 25 2012 12:32 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 12:13 YokoKano wrote:
eh incontrol way below the belt bringing up your 2 wins from 4 gate. you dodged my challenge to a show match and smurfed me in WCG (tsavonglah).
let's face it, if I hadn't been inappropriately knocked out by a mismanaged round robin at the austin event, I'd have been a national finalist that year.
Next year I qualified for regionals, didn't receive my automatic advancement to nationals and then got eliminated by Idra playing vs him with a hangover when I got moved to an unannounced online regionals replacement. After the poor management of WCG i don't think you can bring up my tournament performance.
i'm ready to showmatch you any day of the week even though I've just been practicing for like 5 days. don't get so cocky. you still owe me a j, and don't forget it.
obviously there's no shame in dropping best of 3s vs lz in a higher pressure first lan of my life, let alone a LAN in texas. if i'd been allowed to play the pvps i was entitled to, i'd have advanced no problem. Who are you and what are you talking about?
I wasn't watching the stream when this was brought up, but maybe it was the series he had against TLO where he won with pylons in his base two times in a row to take the series.
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Well it was looking scary earlier, but now looking good for Vibe! :D
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lol buca de beppo damage.
WP Incontrol.
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Ok Scarlett, do not disappoint me this time...
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ahhahaha i love when incontrol mocks the overly excited [for no reason] caster.
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Esports history here? Trans gender vs Trans gender!
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Yay, PvZ, time to steal some builds
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There certainly is something genuinely cute about two skilled trangendered people playing in an official match.
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Wait so has Puck actually gone through the operation to become a woman?
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the speech that incontrol just gave was pretty.. epic
lol
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On September 25 2012 12:52 Dexington wrote:
Wait so has Puck actually gone through the operation to become a woman?
Seriously doubt it since he just announced his feelings about a month ago I think.
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On September 25 2012 12:52 Dexington wrote:
Wait so has Puck actually gone through the operation to become a woman?
He hasn't stated that he has and I doubt it as well but regardless he wishes to identify as a woman.
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On September 25 2012 12:52 Dexington wrote:
Wait so has Puck actually gone through the operation to become a woman?
I'm actually extremely confused as well..I don't think he would joke about something like this. I almost thought that I'd misheard, but I think that's what he just announced O.o
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I just also wanted to express how confused I am. I thought he was joking at first... but then he was completely serious about it, and it seemed questionable to joke about that when going against Scarlett.
In any event, I'm excited to see Puck's play, though it will be difficult to beat Scarlett to say the least.
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On September 25 2012 12:54 KimJongChill wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 12:52 Dexington wrote:
Wait so has Puck actually gone through the operation to become a woman? I'm actually extremely confused as well..I don't think he would joke about something like this. I almost thought that I'd misheard, but I think that's what he just announced O.o
He actually just came out recently to his family as well as his team. Proly within the last month.
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RooT soooo chalk full of win lately. Really pulling for Puck here.
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On September 25 2012 12:54 KimJongChill wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 12:52 Dexington wrote:
Wait so has Puck actually gone through the operation to become a woman? I'm actually extremely confused as well..I don't think he would joke about something like this. I almost thought that I'd misheard, but I think that's what he just announced O.o
There was a thread on reddit about it. She's transgendered but not presently transexual. IE, she identifies as a woman but has not gone through the surgery.
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It takes a lot of confidence to come out as transgender. My hat is off to Puck, hopefully he didn't lose anyone close to him in the process.
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nice to see vibe just out play paranoid in that last game now we'll have to see i haven't followed puck very closely i have no idea just how good puck is and scarlett is a total beast soooo.
looking for the ace match mostly
will it be major? or masa again he really does have scary scary tvz or perhaps vibe or even slush dare i hope?
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On September 25 2012 12:56 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 12:54 KimJongChill wrote:On September 25 2012 12:52 Dexington wrote:
Wait so has Puck actually gone through the operation to become a woman? I'm actually extremely confused as well..I don't think he would joke about something like this. I almost thought that I'd misheard, but I think that's what he just announced O.o There was a thread on reddit about it. She's transgendered but not presently transexual. IE, she identifies as a woman but has not gone through the surgery.
I don't think I'll ever understand "transgender", it just doesn't make sense to me. I won't judge anyone who is, but I just don't get it.
That's neither here nor there though, this could be a good match.
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scarlett is doing the waypoint mining mineral boost. how much does that give?
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On September 25 2012 13:02 Oboeman wrote:
scarlett is doing the waypoint mining mineral boost. how much does that give?
Between 5-7% I think (the retarded "23%" number was wrong, didn't take into account time to harvest, only time travelling from minerals to hatch)
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On September 25 2012 13:02 Oboeman wrote:
scarlett is doing the waypoint mining mineral boost. how much does that give?
Approx. 24% extra minerals. It is best used on far patches because it'll mess up a paired short patch.
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On September 25 2012 13:02 Oboeman wrote:
scarlett is doing the waypoint mining mineral boost. how much does that give?
Not much even if you do it perfectly. It would give a huge boost if you could perfectly do it with all your drones but most people can only do 2-3 without messing up.
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On September 25 2012 13:04 Frozenhelfire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 13:02 Oboeman wrote:
scarlett is doing the waypoint mining mineral boost. how much does that give? Approx. 24% extra minerals. It is best used on far patches because it'll mess up a paired short patch.
Not correct...
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At my very best including stacking drones, all I've managed to get in extra minerals is 35 by the 4 minute mark before there are other things I have to do with apm.
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Wow I never knew that about puCK. This matchup is quite interesting than.
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I don't know why incontrol keeps saying that we don't see this push very often any more. It's been used quite a lot in GSTL and GSL lately unless I'm mistaken.
Edit: Incontrol clarified, it is a lot less common now for sure.
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On September 25 2012 13:05 goswser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 13:04 Frozenhelfire wrote:On September 25 2012 13:02 Oboeman wrote:
scarlett is doing the waypoint mining mineral boost. how much does that give? Approx. 24% extra minerals. It is best used on far patches because it'll mess up a paired short patch. Not correct...
If it isn't correct why don't you enlighten me? That was the original finding if I recall. Also, what part of this isn't correct? I made multiple points.
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actually pretty good play by puck he got torn apart but it could of been much more one sided.
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I genuinely thought the PuCk being trans thing was some inside joke I didn't get and now I feel terrible D:
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If you're wondering why incontrol is calling Puck "she" it was covered before the game (you can check the vod for his words exactly). Puck recently came out as transgender.
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On September 25 2012 13:12 Frozenhelfire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 13:05 goswser wrote:On September 25 2012 13:04 Frozenhelfire wrote:On September 25 2012 13:02 Oboeman wrote:
scarlett is doing the waypoint mining mineral boost. how much does that give? Approx. 24% extra minerals. It is best used on far patches because it'll mess up a paired short patch. Not correct... If it isn't correct why don't you enlighten me? That was the original finding if I recall. Also, what part of this isn't correct? I made multiple points.
You mine 24% faster which = 24% more mineral income but you dont get "more" minerals, you just mine faster. Hes being a troll i think i wouldn't worry about it.
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I'd love to see the end of this be Scarlett saying something like "BOW TO YOUR QUEEN BEEATCH :p" Or something like that, which only works as a girl saying to a girl. Might be pushing the envelope a little much though I suppose.
Edit: also as I said before:
On September 25 2012 13:04 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 13:02 Oboeman wrote:
scarlett is doing the waypoint mining mineral boost. how much does that give? Between 5-7% I think (the 24% number was wrong, didn't take into account time to harvest, only time travelling from minerals to hatch)
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On September 25 2012 13:12 Frozenhelfire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 13:05 goswser wrote:On September 25 2012 13:04 Frozenhelfire wrote:On September 25 2012 13:02 Oboeman wrote:
scarlett is doing the waypoint mining mineral boost. how much does that give? Approx. 24% extra minerals. It is best used on far patches because it'll mess up a paired short patch. Not correct... If it isn't correct why don't you enlighten me? That was the original finding if I recall. Also, what part of this isn't correct? I made multiple points.
no way, it can't be that big
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On September 25 2012 13:14 TheDougler wrote:I'd love to see the end of this be Scarlett saying something like "BOW TO YOUR QUEEN BEEATCH :p" Or something like that, which only works as a girl saying to a girl. Might be pushing the envelope a little much though I suppose. Edit: also as I said before: Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 13:04 TheDougler wrote:On September 25 2012 13:02 Oboeman wrote:
scarlett is doing the waypoint mining mineral boost. how much does that give? Between 5-7% I think (the 24% number was wrong, didn't take into account time to harvest, only time travelling from minerals to hatch)
I didn't see the post, but 5-7% does make more sense. Thank you for correcting me and actually giving the correct figures.
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I really hope Puck can somehow bring this to a third game. I was hoping to see her double forge/warp prism play against Scarlett.
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~you can blink anytime you want but you better not blink away from me
~in the fungal
~WELCOME TO THE FUNGAL
~SHANANANANANANANA KNEES KNEES
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Love watching Scarlet play the early game, was hoping to see more lair tech play but she got enough bases up to just flood the hive tech.
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I feel bad for Puck first time she plays and has to play Scarlett. No bueno
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Let the Scarlett hype train continue as she beats yet another American.
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On September 25 2012 13:32 Dexington wrote:
Let the Scarlett hype train continue as she beats yet another American.
She is pretty good to be fair, although yet another stylistically boring Zerg
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Man every time I see a Protoss beat a Zerg, its like witnessing some great miracle...
and if Zerg wins it's just 1 big steamroller.
Seems like there would be no way to fix this though without ruining PvT
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Agree with Jeff, Vibe might be totally prepared here for Nerchio. Then again Nerchio's ZvZ is world class, might be epic stuff here.
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Vibe must have just recently improved his ZvZ. Historically he was very bad,
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o0 talk about the game Jeff !
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Holy shit... Stop rambling.
There is actually build order shit to talk about on screen.
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On September 25 2012 13:34 CursOr wrote:Man every time I see a Protoss beat a Zerg, its like witnessing some great miracle... and if Zerg wins it's just 1 big steamroller. Seems like there would be no way to fix this though without ruining PvT
To be fair, the way Zerg is designed from the ground-up is that they either just peter out and die of they "steamroll"... that's nearly always how it looks when a Zerg wins for the whole existence of SC2. The race works by "exponentially" building off of minor advantages, so most Zerg victories are actually a culmination of a series of smaller victories that aren't as noticeable until the end when they just plow through everything.
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vibe gonna beat 2-0 nerchio
since vibe can beat idra, he can beat any zerg
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On September 25 2012 13:43 Mordiford wrote:
Holy shit... Stop rambling.
There is actually build order shit to talk about on screen.
Take it easy... you can make suggestions in more polite ways, though I enjoy rambling. I can watch the game and listen to him talk. :D
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Looking like Vibe will have to all in here pretty soon. Liked the opener.
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okay, this is just proof that zvz is random and pure luck. vibe beats idra and nerchio beats vibe. wow. like idra said, zvz is silly. it's a luck based match up because vibe should't beat idra and nerchio shouldn't beat vibe at all.
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On September 25 2012 13:43 corpuscle wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 13:34 CursOr wrote:Man every time I see a Protoss beat a Zerg, its like witnessing some great miracle... and if Zerg wins it's just 1 big steamroller. Seems like there would be no way to fix this though without ruining PvT To be fair, the way Zerg is designed from the ground-up is that they either just peter out and die of they "steamroll"... that's nearly always how it looks when a Zerg wins for the whole existence of SC2. The race works by "exponentially" building off of minor advantages, so most Zerg victories are actually a culmination of a series of smaller victories that aren't as noticeable until the end when they just plow through everything.
Eh I think that's much more so in ZvP than ZvT. ZvT can be quite back and forth.
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Don't listen to incontrol; I don't want any of you buggers using mutalisks x.x
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On September 25 2012 13:49 brokeception wrote:
vibe gonna beat 2-0 nerchio
since vibe can beat idra, he can beat any zerg
So what does that make Nerchio if Nerchio wins then ? 
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On September 25 2012 13:54 brokeception wrote:
okay, this is just proof that zvz is random and pure luck. vibe beats idra and nerchio beats vibe. wow. like idra said, zvz is silly. it's a luck based match up because vibe should't beat idra and nerchio shouldn't beat vibe at all.
stop trolling.
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wow vibe bungled that.
Having defensive banelings at two points in that game would have saved him so much trouble. He took a lot of unnecessary damage, stripping away his ridiculous lead.
impressive for nerchio to pull that win back out of his ass.
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On September 25 2012 13:54 brokeception wrote:
okay, this is just proof that zvz is random and pure luck. vibe beats idra and nerchio beats vibe. wow. like idra said, zvz is silly. it's a luck based match up because vibe should't beat idra and nerchio shouldn't beat vibe at all.
Yeah... No.
Nerchio is arguably better than IdrA right now, so just because Vibe can beat IdrA doesn't make it an auto-win against Nerchio. Starcraft 2 doesn't work that way anyway.
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On September 25 2012 13:58 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 13:54 brokeception wrote:
okay, this is just proof that zvz is random and pure luck. vibe beats idra and nerchio beats vibe. wow. like idra said, zvz is silly. it's a luck based match up because vibe should't beat idra and nerchio shouldn't beat vibe at all. Yeah... No. Nerchio is arguably better than IdrA right now, so just because Vibe can beat IdrA doesn't make it an auto-win against Nerchio. Starcraft 2 doesn't work that way anyway.
You just got trolled... :-/ He is just flame baiting.
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Please don't feed the trolls
And by the way Nerchio, someone should tell you that when playing a Root zerg, rule number one is have detection at home
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On September 25 2012 13:58 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 13:54 brokeception wrote:
okay, this is just proof that zvz is random and pure luck. vibe beats idra and nerchio beats vibe. wow. like idra said, zvz is silly. it's a luck based match up because vibe should't beat idra and nerchio shouldn't beat vibe at all. Yeah... No. Nerchio is arguably better than IdrA right now, so just because Vibe can beat IdrA doesn't make it an auto-win against Nerchio. Starcraft 2 doesn't work that way anyway.
Arguably lol?
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On September 25 2012 13:58 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 13:54 brokeception wrote:
okay, this is just proof that zvz is random and pure luck. vibe beats idra and nerchio beats vibe. wow. like idra said, zvz is silly. it's a luck based match up because vibe should't beat idra and nerchio shouldn't beat vibe at all. Yeah... No. Nerchio is arguably better than IdrA right now, so just because Vibe can beat IdrA doesn't make it an auto-win against Nerchio. Starcraft 2 doesn't work that way anyway.
like every single pro and caster has said, idra only does bad if he's on tilt. if he's not on tilt idra would easily be a top 5 player in the world
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On September 25 2012 13:54 brokeception wrote:
okay, this is just proof that zvz is random and pure luck. vibe beats idra and nerchio beats vibe. wow. like idra said, zvz is silly. it's a luck based match up because vibe should't beat idra and nerchio shouldn't beat vibe at all.
Are you trolling ? Nerchio and Stephano are two best zergs outside Korea and unlike Stephano Nerchio have always had extremely good ZvZ on level where he is on par with Koreans.
EDIT: ok he is trolling
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On September 25 2012 13:59 Vaftrudner wrote:Please don't feed the trolls And by the way Nerchio, someone should tell you that when playing a Root zerg, rule number one is have detection at home
nerchio lost TSL to darkforce due to the same thing, and when when he played against violet at IEM he seemed very aware about having detection to stop infestor run-bys.
Were these games played before IEM??
hah nah, he was just thrown off his gameplan just a little bit after coming back from 5 drones.
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rofl incontrol: "nerchio with a rare mistake"
let me fix that for you geoff
nerchio with the characteristic mistake
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5 banelings for 2?
no that 2 was 2 banelings for 2 banelings + about 10 zerglings. insanely good hit.
im still waiting for a snipe on the injured natural hehe
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Vibe is just being outplayed badly, no shame in that.
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Grats to Acer, but pretty impressed with ROOT's performance!
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Good team match. Congrats to Acer!
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Well played by both sides, but congrats to Acer! Scarlett + Nerchio is a pretty strong core for Acer in this kind of team league format.
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Grats Acer indeed, even though all teams know they will face an Acer zerg they still seem to make it work.
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Nice...Acer is a great team. In IPTL, are they in Premier or Contender ?
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On September 25 2012 14:19 brokenLoL wrote:
Nice...Acer is a great team. In IPTL, are they in Premier or Contender ?
They're in Contender and doing quite well
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On September 25 2012 14:20 Vaftrudner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 14:19 brokenLoL wrote:
Nice...Acer is a great team. In IPTL, are they in Premier or Contender ? They're in Contender and doing quite well
I really wish we had writeups for IPTL, there's so much exciting stuff happening there now. That first Liquid vs EG match? SOOOOO GOOD!
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On September 25 2012 14:21 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 14:20 Vaftrudner wrote:On September 25 2012 14:19 brokenLoL wrote:
Nice...Acer is a great team. In IPTL, are they in Premier or Contender ? They're in Contender and doing quite well I really wish we had writeups for IPTL, there's so much exciting stuff happening there now. That first Liquid vs EG match? SOOOOO GOOD!
Not to take anything away from Stephano, but Taeja played too greedy, which is the reason more most of his losses.
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On September 25 2012 14:25 brokenLoL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 14:21 TheDougler wrote:On September 25 2012 14:20 Vaftrudner wrote:On September 25 2012 14:19 brokenLoL wrote:
Nice...Acer is a great team. In IPTL, are they in Premier or Contender ? They're in Contender and doing quite well I really wish we had writeups for IPTL, there's so much exciting stuff happening there now. That first Liquid vs EG match? SOOOOO GOOD! Not to take anything away from Stephano, but Taeja played too greedy, which is the reason more most of his losses.
And also the reason for a lot of his wins, hoho
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So when are we gonna have our Acer team icon?
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Finally got to see the games, ahh Scarlett & Nerchio completely on top of things as predicted yawn.
And excellent job solo casting I gotta say iNc Very enjoyable show to watch.
On September 25 2012 16:19 SmoKim wrote:
So when are we gonna have our Acer team icon?
Join me in bothering them in the team icons thread, I agree we really need that Acer icon now!
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On September 25 2012 16:19 SmoKim wrote:
So when are we gonna have our Acer team icon?
If you have zerg selected as your race on TL I think that is close enough.
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hey incontrol, just wanted to let you know that Vibe actually ISNT a ZvZ specialist. ZvZ is his worst matchup, as he's said in the past. I can see why you would think he's a specialist since he took out IdrA, but his ZvT and ZvP are definitely better.
Just a heads up
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