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On August 15 2012 20:58 shabby wrote:
Can someone link the 720+ day9 stream again? Lost it.
It's ESL.TV in the "other" category.
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On August 15 2012 20:46 o)_Saurus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:39 BeyondCtrL wrote:On August 15 2012 20:34 o)_Saurus wrote:On August 15 2012 20:31 BeyondCtrL wrote:On August 15 2012 20:19 AgniKai wrote:
박진영 @EGJYP
@NaNiwaSC2 i doen't know u are playing tournament and u was a lot of bad words for me and that happen really sorry to you but u lost reason
박진영 @EGJYP
@NaNiwaSC2 is not me just u lost why excuse that happen? that happen really sorry but your excuse is really fucking joke It's obvious that Naniwa wasn't playing any good today. Whether this situation affected Nani only he can tell. What bothers me is that JYP thinks that touching a person is not disturbing especially when they need to focus. I know that Koreans have a different culture where it comes to physical contact with others but it's still quite rude to touch someone like that (especially when you're not close friends) and as far as I know JYP and Nani aren't even friends. Would Nani have won if the situation never occurred? Most likely not. Did it bother him? Clearly it did. Was JYP at fault here? Yes. For some people the idea of someone touching you and ruining your focus and tilting you is ridiculous. For others, however, it can do exactly that. It might be a bad excuse but in his mind it did really bother him and really that's what really counts in the end - his own state of mind and peace. I know your swedish but you should stop making stupid excuses. Naniwa lost and thats it. If a 10second touch influences 4 matches he has a serious problem with his mindset. How is that excuse? Did you even read what I wrote? I'm talking about whether it's appropriate to touch someone like that during a tournament, not whether if the excuse is a valid one for him losing. You indirectly said it. Especially in the last part. And now don't start a struggle about the definition of "excuses" because I won't reply to it. -_-
I'm not talking about the value of the excuse because IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE, I'm talking about what the player was feeling and how it relates to the appropriateness of such actions in that situation. Really every time I try to objectively take both sides into account, especially if Nani is at the center (because literally everyone either hates him or loves/likes him), people assume, just from my country, that I am defending Nani's person and actions..
Let's remove names all together and go through my post as such so your mind doesn't get confused.
Player A gets touched by another passerby for a few seconds at a tournament game. Q: Is it appropriate? Some people will say it's fine because it doesn't bother them. Well by that means if someone doesn't mind something then it should be fine, right? It would be if HE WERE THE ONLY PERSON THERE. Everyone reacts differently to such situations. Some won't mind and some will be negatively affected.
If this happened to any player I would be saying the exact same thing, regardless of what happened. When someone touches another person in such a situation, i.e. they are not friends or acquaintances, then they better have a damn good reason for touching you.
Even if Nestea was winning 10-0 in a bo21 and some stranger touched him during a game it would NOT be OK. You never know how that person will react at that given moment.
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On August 15 2012 20:58 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:58 Unibrow88 wrote:On August 15 2012 20:56 shepherdxoxo wrote:
Oh what the fuck.. I should go to bed, good night guys. Its 13:57... just should be awake for ~2hrs at max ...the fuck?! Timezones...
He is in the same timezone, seeing his country is The Netherlands. But mabye he is on vacation.
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On August 15 2012 20:58 shabby wrote:
Can someone link the 720+ day9 stream again? Lost it.
there is none
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On August 15 2012 20:58 Unibrow88 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:56 shepherdxoxo wrote:
Oh what the fuck.. I should go to bed, good night guys. Its 13:57... just should be awake for ~2hrs at max ...the fuck?!
And yet I manage to fuck up with names twice in a row. First AureS and Adelscott, followed by Grubby and TargA. That´s just hard to swallow down when you´re as intelligent and awesome as I am. :/
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On August 15 2012 20:58 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:58 Unibrow88 wrote:On August 15 2012 20:56 shepherdxoxo wrote:
Oh what the fuck.. I should go to bed, good night guys. Its 13:57... just should be awake for ~2hrs at max ...the fuck?! Timezones...
Holland has the same Timezone as Germany... /facepalm
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On August 15 2012 20:58 BeyondCtrL wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:46 o)_Saurus wrote:On August 15 2012 20:39 BeyondCtrL wrote:On August 15 2012 20:34 o)_Saurus wrote:On August 15 2012 20:31 BeyondCtrL wrote:On August 15 2012 20:19 AgniKai wrote:
박진영 @EGJYP
@NaNiwaSC2 i doen't know u are playing tournament and u was a lot of bad words for me and that happen really sorry to you but u lost reason
박진영 @EGJYP
@NaNiwaSC2 is not me just u lost why excuse that happen? that happen really sorry but your excuse is really fucking joke It's obvious that Naniwa wasn't playing any good today. Whether this situation affected Nani only he can tell. What bothers me is that JYP thinks that touching a person is not disturbing especially when they need to focus. I know that Koreans have a different culture where it comes to physical contact with others but it's still quite rude to touch someone like that (especially when you're not close friends) and as far as I know JYP and Nani aren't even friends. Would Nani have won if the situation never occurred? Most likely not. Did it bother him? Clearly it did. Was JYP at fault here? Yes. For some people the idea of someone touching you and ruining your focus and tilting you is ridiculous. For others, however, it can do exactly that. It might be a bad excuse but in his mind it did really bother him and really that's what really counts in the end - his own state of mind and peace. I know your swedish but you should stop making stupid excuses. Naniwa lost and thats it. If a 10second touch influences 4 matches he has a serious problem with his mindset. How is that excuse? Did you even read what I wrote? I'm talking about whether it's appropriate to touch someone like that during a tournament, not whether if the excuse is a valid one for him losing. You indirectly said it. Especially in the last part. And now don't start a struggle about the definition of "excuses" because I won't reply to it. -_- I'm not talking about the value of the excuse because IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE, I'm talking about what the player was feeling and how it relates to the appropriateness of such actions in that situation. Really every time I try to objectively take both sides into account, especially if Nani is at the center (because literally everyone either hates him or loves/likes him), people assume, just from my country, that I am defending Nani's person and actions.. Let's remove names all together and go through my post as such so your mind doesn't get confused. Player A gets touched by another passerby for a few seconds at a tournament game. Q: Is it appropriate? Some people will say it's fine because it doesn't bother them. Well by that means if someone doesn't mind something then it should be fine, right? It would be if HE WERE THE ONLY PERSON THERE. Everyone reacts differently to such situations. Some won't mind and some will be negatively affected. If this happened to any player I would be saying the exact same thing, regardless of what happened. When someone touches another person in such a situation, i.e. they are not friends or acquaintances, then they better have a damn good reason for touching you. Even if Nestea was winning 10-0 in a bo21 and some stranger touched him during a game it would NOT be OK. You never know how that person will react at that given moment.
This is getting ridiculous.. just ignore what happened, Naniwa lost because of his play.
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On August 15 2012 21:00 Ryps wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:58 BeyondCtrL wrote:On August 15 2012 20:46 o)_Saurus wrote:On August 15 2012 20:39 BeyondCtrL wrote:On August 15 2012 20:34 o)_Saurus wrote:On August 15 2012 20:31 BeyondCtrL wrote:On August 15 2012 20:19 AgniKai wrote:
박진영 @EGJYP
@NaNiwaSC2 i doen't know u are playing tournament and u was a lot of bad words for me and that happen really sorry to you but u lost reason
박진영 @EGJYP
@NaNiwaSC2 is not me just u lost why excuse that happen? that happen really sorry but your excuse is really fucking joke It's obvious that Naniwa wasn't playing any good today. Whether this situation affected Nani only he can tell. What bothers me is that JYP thinks that touching a person is not disturbing especially when they need to focus. I know that Koreans have a different culture where it comes to physical contact with others but it's still quite rude to touch someone like that (especially when you're not close friends) and as far as I know JYP and Nani aren't even friends. Would Nani have won if the situation never occurred? Most likely not. Did it bother him? Clearly it did. Was JYP at fault here? Yes. For some people the idea of someone touching you and ruining your focus and tilting you is ridiculous. For others, however, it can do exactly that. It might be a bad excuse but in his mind it did really bother him and really that's what really counts in the end - his own state of mind and peace. I know your swedish but you should stop making stupid excuses. Naniwa lost and thats it. If a 10second touch influences 4 matches he has a serious problem with his mindset. How is that excuse? Did you even read what I wrote? I'm talking about whether it's appropriate to touch someone like that during a tournament, not whether if the excuse is a valid one for him losing. You indirectly said it. Especially in the last part. And now don't start a struggle about the definition of "excuses" because I won't reply to it. -_- I'm not talking about the value of the excuse because IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE, I'm talking about what the player was feeling and how it relates to the appropriateness of such actions in that situation. Really every time I try to objectively take both sides into account, especially if Nani is at the center (because literally everyone either hates him or loves/likes him), people assume, just from my country, that I am defending Nani's person and actions.. Let's remove names all together and go through my post as such so your mind doesn't get confused. Player A gets touched by another passerby for a few seconds at a tournament game. Q: Is it appropriate? Some people will say it's fine because it doesn't bother them. Well by that means if someone doesn't mind something then it should be fine, right? It would be if HE WERE THE ONLY PERSON THERE. Everyone reacts differently to such situations. Some won't mind and some will be negatively affected. If this happened to any player I would be saying the exact same thing, regardless of what happened. When someone touches another person in such a situation, i.e. they are not friends or acquaintances, then they better have a damn good reason for touching you. Even if Nestea was winning 10-0 in a bo21 and some stranger touched him during a game it would NOT be OK. You never know how that person will react at that given moment. This is getting ridiculous.. just ignore what happened, Naniwa lost because of his play.
And another person who doesn't even bother to read the post.
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Oh, Strelok is not meching this time, but sneaking in a couple of Raxes.
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GOGO sunnygohan!!! *haha*
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On August 15 2012 21:00 Ryps wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:58 BeyondCtrL wrote:On August 15 2012 20:46 o)_Saurus wrote:On August 15 2012 20:39 BeyondCtrL wrote:On August 15 2012 20:34 o)_Saurus wrote:On August 15 2012 20:31 BeyondCtrL wrote:On August 15 2012 20:19 AgniKai wrote:
박진영 @EGJYP
@NaNiwaSC2 i doen't know u are playing tournament and u was a lot of bad words for me and that happen really sorry to you but u lost reason
박진영 @EGJYP
@NaNiwaSC2 is not me just u lost why excuse that happen? that happen really sorry but your excuse is really fucking joke It's obvious that Naniwa wasn't playing any good today. Whether this situation affected Nani only he can tell. What bothers me is that JYP thinks that touching a person is not disturbing especially when they need to focus. I know that Koreans have a different culture where it comes to physical contact with others but it's still quite rude to touch someone like that (especially when you're not close friends) and as far as I know JYP and Nani aren't even friends. Would Nani have won if the situation never occurred? Most likely not. Did it bother him? Clearly it did. Was JYP at fault here? Yes. For some people the idea of someone touching you and ruining your focus and tilting you is ridiculous. For others, however, it can do exactly that. It might be a bad excuse but in his mind it did really bother him and really that's what really counts in the end - his own state of mind and peace. I know your swedish but you should stop making stupid excuses. Naniwa lost and thats it. If a 10second touch influences 4 matches he has a serious problem with his mindset. How is that excuse? Did you even read what I wrote? I'm talking about whether it's appropriate to touch someone like that during a tournament, not whether if the excuse is a valid one for him losing. You indirectly said it. Especially in the last part. And now don't start a struggle about the definition of "excuses" because I won't reply to it. -_- I'm not talking about the value of the excuse because IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE, I'm talking about what the player was feeling and how it relates to the appropriateness of such actions in that situation. Really every time I try to objectively take both sides into account, especially if Nani is at the center (because literally everyone either hates him or loves/likes him), people assume, just from my country, that I am defending Nani's person and actions.. Let's remove names all together and go through my post as such so your mind doesn't get confused. Player A gets touched by another passerby for a few seconds at a tournament game. Q: Is it appropriate? Some people will say it's fine because it doesn't bother them. Well by that means if someone doesn't mind something then it should be fine, right? It would be if HE WERE THE ONLY PERSON THERE. Everyone reacts differently to such situations. Some won't mind and some will be negatively affected. If this happened to any player I would be saying the exact same thing, regardless of what happened. When someone touches another person in such a situation, i.e. they are not friends or acquaintances, then they better have a damn good reason for touching you. Even if Nestea was winning 10-0 in a bo21 and some stranger touched him during a game it would NOT be OK. You never know how that person will react at that given moment. This is getting ridiculous.. just ignore what happened, Naniwa lost because of his play.
Yeah exactly
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MVP better goes for mech <3
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On August 15 2012 20:59 Unibrow88 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:58 Xoronius wrote:On August 15 2012 20:58 Unibrow88 wrote:On August 15 2012 20:56 shepherdxoxo wrote:
Oh what the fuck.. I should go to bed, good night guys. Its 13:57... just should be awake for ~2hrs at max ...the fuck?! Timezones... Holland has the same Timezone as Germany... /facepalm
Yes, but he could be anywhere, holliday, work or whatever. The nation in his profile is pre-selected by himself, it does not change, when he travels.
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On August 15 2012 20:55 furo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:52 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Can players have a production tab or is that for observers only? how do you almost have 2000 posts and ask this question?
Maybe he played BW and no clue about SC2? (i guess)
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sunnygohan... Why aren't they using overlays?
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On August 15 2012 21:00 Ryps wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:58 BeyondCtrL wrote:On August 15 2012 20:46 o)_Saurus wrote:On August 15 2012 20:39 BeyondCtrL wrote:On August 15 2012 20:34 o)_Saurus wrote:On August 15 2012 20:31 BeyondCtrL wrote:On August 15 2012 20:19 AgniKai wrote:
박진영 @EGJYP
@NaNiwaSC2 i doen't know u are playing tournament and u was a lot of bad words for me and that happen really sorry to you but u lost reason
박진영 @EGJYP
@NaNiwaSC2 is not me just u lost why excuse that happen? that happen really sorry but your excuse is really fucking joke It's obvious that Naniwa wasn't playing any good today. Whether this situation affected Nani only he can tell. What bothers me is that JYP thinks that touching a person is not disturbing especially when they need to focus. I know that Koreans have a different culture where it comes to physical contact with others but it's still quite rude to touch someone like that (especially when you're not close friends) and as far as I know JYP and Nani aren't even friends. Would Nani have won if the situation never occurred? Most likely not. Did it bother him? Clearly it did. Was JYP at fault here? Yes. For some people the idea of someone touching you and ruining your focus and tilting you is ridiculous. For others, however, it can do exactly that. It might be a bad excuse but in his mind it did really bother him and really that's what really counts in the end - his own state of mind and peace. I know your swedish but you should stop making stupid excuses. Naniwa lost and thats it. If a 10second touch influences 4 matches he has a serious problem with his mindset. How is that excuse? Did you even read what I wrote? I'm talking about whether it's appropriate to touch someone like that during a tournament, not whether if the excuse is a valid one for him losing. You indirectly said it. Especially in the last part. And now don't start a struggle about the definition of "excuses" because I won't reply to it. -_- I'm not talking about the value of the excuse because IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE, I'm talking about what the player was feeling and how it relates to the appropriateness of such actions in that situation. Really every time I try to objectively take both sides into account, especially if Nani is at the center (because literally everyone either hates him or loves/likes him), people assume, just from my country, that I am defending Nani's person and actions.. Let's remove names all together and go through my post as such so your mind doesn't get confused. Player A gets touched by another passerby for a few seconds at a tournament game. Q: Is it appropriate? Some people will say it's fine because it doesn't bother them. Well by that means if someone doesn't mind something then it should be fine, right? It would be if HE WERE THE ONLY PERSON THERE. Everyone reacts differently to such situations. Some won't mind and some will be negatively affected. If this happened to any player I would be saying the exact same thing, regardless of what happened. When someone touches another person in such a situation, i.e. they are not friends or acquaintances, then they better have a damn good reason for touching you. Even if Nestea was winning 10-0 in a bo21 and some stranger touched him during a game it would NOT be OK. You never know how that person will react at that given moment. This is getting ridiculous.. just ignore what happened, Naniwa lost because of his play.
No, Jyp should not have touched Naniwa.
No, Jyp is not to blame for Naniwa losing every game at this tournament.
Naniwa failed and went out because he played bad.
Get over it.
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On August 15 2012 21:01 BeyondCtrL wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 21:00 Ryps wrote:On August 15 2012 20:58 BeyondCtrL wrote:On August 15 2012 20:46 o)_Saurus wrote:On August 15 2012 20:39 BeyondCtrL wrote:On August 15 2012 20:34 o)_Saurus wrote:On August 15 2012 20:31 BeyondCtrL wrote:On August 15 2012 20:19 AgniKai wrote:
박진영 @EGJYP
@NaNiwaSC2 i doen't know u are playing tournament and u was a lot of bad words for me and that happen really sorry to you but u lost reason
박진영 @EGJYP
@NaNiwaSC2 is not me just u lost why excuse that happen? that happen really sorry but your excuse is really fucking joke It's obvious that Naniwa wasn't playing any good today. Whether this situation affected Nani only he can tell. What bothers me is that JYP thinks that touching a person is not disturbing especially when they need to focus. I know that Koreans have a different culture where it comes to physical contact with others but it's still quite rude to touch someone like that (especially when you're not close friends) and as far as I know JYP and Nani aren't even friends. Would Nani have won if the situation never occurred? Most likely not. Did it bother him? Clearly it did. Was JYP at fault here? Yes. For some people the idea of someone touching you and ruining your focus and tilting you is ridiculous. For others, however, it can do exactly that. It might be a bad excuse but in his mind it did really bother him and really that's what really counts in the end - his own state of mind and peace. I know your swedish but you should stop making stupid excuses. Naniwa lost and thats it. If a 10second touch influences 4 matches he has a serious problem with his mindset. How is that excuse? Did you even read what I wrote? I'm talking about whether it's appropriate to touch someone like that during a tournament, not whether if the excuse is a valid one for him losing. You indirectly said it. Especially in the last part. And now don't start a struggle about the definition of "excuses" because I won't reply to it. -_- I'm not talking about the value of the excuse because IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE, I'm talking about what the player was feeling and how it relates to the appropriateness of such actions in that situation. Really every time I try to objectively take both sides into account, especially if Nani is at the center (because literally everyone either hates him or loves/likes him), people assume, just from my country, that I am defending Nani's person and actions.. Let's remove names all together and go through my post as such so your mind doesn't get confused. Player A gets touched by another passerby for a few seconds at a tournament game. Q: Is it appropriate? Some people will say it's fine because it doesn't bother them. Well by that means if someone doesn't mind something then it should be fine, right? It would be if HE WERE THE ONLY PERSON THERE. Everyone reacts differently to such situations. Some won't mind and some will be negatively affected. If this happened to any player I would be saying the exact same thing, regardless of what happened. When someone touches another person in such a situation, i.e. they are not friends or acquaintances, then they better have a damn good reason for touching you. Even if Nestea was winning 10-0 in a bo21 and some stranger touched him during a game it would NOT be OK. You never know how that person will react at that given moment. This is getting ridiculous.. just ignore what happened, Naniwa lost because of his play. And another person who doesn't even bother to read the post.
Who cares about your post, and anyways it's not JYP's fault for doing it, he apologized and clearly said he didnt know, and he also said that the game was lost no matter what, and I'll trust JYP over you, the game was lost because of Nani's play, even if JYP's move made him tilt, end of the theory crafting over Sweden pro players.
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EPT![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/c/c6/Uk.png)
ESL TV/Day[9] TV: Mvp vs. TargA![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/8/8f/De.png)
TakeTV: Tarson vs. YongHwa![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/4/4b/Fr.png)
aAaTV: TBA![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/b/b9/Pl.png)
ESL Poland: Tarson vs. YongHwa![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/4/4e/Es.png)
sebajeiko: Mvp vs. TargA![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/f/fb/Ru.png)
ESL CIS: Strelok vs. NesTea
