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Moskau
Profile Joined July 2010
114 Posts
June 28 2012 12:54 GMT
#3541
On June 28 2012 21:52 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:50 Fragile51 wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:49 andaylin wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:45 andaylin wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:42 Fragile51 wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:41 noddy wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:38 Moskau wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:32 ZenithM wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:28 Moskau wrote:
[quote]

You mean watch MKP Code A matches? You realize he goes to Code A because he lost in the group right?

He's still placed higher than Polt bro. I don't get the MKP-Polt comparison, it's pretty clear who the better player is. Polt is essentially even with Stephano or a bit lower with the new metagame. MKP trashed Stephano at MLG last time.


If by trashed you mean almost lost? MKP is still a gimmicky player, 15 cc or all-in, that's all he does. Anyway bro, the facts are you were saying Polt was bad compared to MKP because hes in code a, somewhat unfortunate considering MKP literally just got knocked down into code a.


He's not in Code A. Get your facts straight, please.

He's also the player who has probably the most builds out of any player but yeah, he's definitely "gimmicky" rofl.


He is in Code A, get your facts straight please >_>

He is not. I don't understand why people don't understand Gsl after so many seasons with this format

Marineking is in Code A..... He got 4th place in the ro16. You get dropped to the 3rd round of Code A. If you win you are directly back into code S. if you lose, you go to up and downs

Except you are not in code a officially until you lose up and downs. You realize this is how nestea got his award?


Because he started every season in Code S. MKP has to play in Code A this season. This is not a very difficult concept.

No it is not and I'm glad you understand it.


I'm glad you were belittling others for not understanding it when you yourself were entirely clueless.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 28 2012 12:54 GMT
#3542
On June 28 2012 21:53 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:52 Za7oX wrote:
Need a zerg in dat ro8

You can do ettttttt SYMBOL!!!!!


Are NesTea and DRG not good enough for you? They're in group D in case you forgot.

Both won't make it out.
I had a good night of sleep.
soverRR
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden348 Posts
June 28 2012 12:54 GMT
#3543
On June 28 2012 21:52 Za7oX wrote:
Need a zerg in dat ro8

You can do ettttttt SYMBOL!!!!!


Dont worry, DRG and NesTea will advance from group D np.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
June 28 2012 12:54 GMT
#3544
On June 28 2012 21:52 Za7oX wrote:
Need a zerg in dat ro8

You can do ettttttt SYMBOL!!!!!



You're at least going to get DRG and Nestea is quite likely too.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
June 28 2012 12:54 GMT
#3545
On June 28 2012 21:53 polyphonyEX wrote:
2base all-in needs to be standard for PvZ

No wonder protoss metagame is so stagnant when shit like this is considered truth.
Bommes
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 12:55:32
June 28 2012 12:55 GMT
#3546
On June 28 2012 21:49 IMPrime wrote:
for people who say to make ghosts

emp vs fungal is very similar to emp vs storm

EMP is only useful against the spellcasters (in tvp it does take off shields, but it's not a whole lot aside from the stalkers and immortals).
fungal/storm is useful against everything

this increases the difficulty in getting the EMP in time before the other spellcasters do something


You are neglecting cloak, which is much stronger against Zerg than it is against Protoss (Detectors easier to see, you can snipe them and dont have to use Vikings).

But I don't think Ghosts are the answer. We've seen pros try to use Ghosts post nerf. Didn't work at all.
Marine/Tank just needs too much micro already, adding a slow moving micro intensive babysit unit like the Ghost to it only works if they are REALLY worth it. Which they used to be with a better snipe, but even back then it was hard to pull off.
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
June 28 2012 12:55 GMT
#3547
On June 28 2012 21:49 IMPrime wrote:
for people who say to make ghosts

emp vs fungal is very similar to emp vs storm

EMP is only useful against the spellcasters (in tvp it does take off shields, but it's not a whole lot aside from the stalkers and immortals).
fungal/storm is useful against everything

this increases the difficulty in getting the EMP in time before the other spellcasters do something


I can do this exact same thing with almost every situation and make it sound ridiculously impossible for my race to win. I could write an essay on any of the below points and make it sound like my race is just completely hopeless.

If I go for colossi he can have a ton of vikings to snipe them unless I build stalkers which are horrible against marauders.

If I go for zealot/archon I get rolled over by marine/ghost.

If I go marine/ghost I get rolled after by stalker/colossi.

Snipe outranges feedback. Ghosts can cloak while vikings can snipe observers from a far distance with scans.

Terran can kite back my zealots because zealots move faster than the rest of the protoss army, killing those while positioning vikings to take out colossi from an angle that is bad for me.

I can't possibly deal with mass chargelot because I lack the DPS to take them out, and I will have to try to snipe off colossi with my vikings but there will be blink stalkers.

GGGGGGGG impossibru
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
June 28 2012 12:55 GMT
#3548
On June 28 2012 21:43 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:42 raga4ka wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:41 andaylin wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:38 Moskau wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:32 ZenithM wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:28 Moskau wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:27 ZenithM wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:25 dragonborn wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:24 noddy wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:23 dragonborn wrote:
[quote]
Your tears are delicious.

SYMBOL DESTROYED MKP, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.


Zerg beating Terran despite playing terrible, shocker!

Now hopefully Symbol will die to Squirtle

Thats okay since MKP being fourth in this group, hahahahahah.

stop whining and watch Polt's TvZ.

MKP is overrated in Korea.

You mean "watch Polt's Code A TvZ"?


You mean watch MKP Code A matches? You realize he goes to Code A because he lost in the group right?

He's still placed higher than Polt bro. I don't get the MKP-Polt comparison, it's pretty clear who the better player is. Polt is essentially even with Stephano or a bit lower with the new metagame. MKP trashed Stephano at MLG last time.


If by trashed you mean almost lost? MKP is still a gimmicky player, 15 cc or all-in, that's all he does. Anyway bro, the facts are you were saying Polt was bad compared to MKP because hes in code a, somewhat unfortunate considering MKP literally just got knocked down into code a.

Lol MKP is gimmicky for 14CC huh? Stfu. Ever heard of this guy called Flash? And if you watch current tvz, MKP has made 14CC the standard. So think before you post.


Well Flash does it more unpredictable , when people don't expect it .


wat

No seriously, wat


I am to tired to think , about grammar , but you should still understand it . Flash goes 14 CC or all - in when players don't expect it . It's called mind games . MKP always opens extremely greedy and attacks at predictable for him timings .
scoww
Profile Joined June 2012
595 Posts
June 28 2012 12:55 GMT
#3549
If squirtle loses this i'm going to be mad :[
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 28 2012 12:55 GMT
#3550
On June 28 2012 21:55 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:43 Fragile51 wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:42 raga4ka wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:41 andaylin wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:38 Moskau wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:32 ZenithM wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:28 Moskau wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:27 ZenithM wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:25 dragonborn wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:24 noddy wrote:
[quote]

Zerg beating Terran despite playing terrible, shocker!

Now hopefully Symbol will die to Squirtle

Thats okay since MKP being fourth in this group, hahahahahah.

stop whining and watch Polt's TvZ.

MKP is overrated in Korea.

You mean "watch Polt's Code A TvZ"?


You mean watch MKP Code A matches? You realize he goes to Code A because he lost in the group right?

He's still placed higher than Polt bro. I don't get the MKP-Polt comparison, it's pretty clear who the better player is. Polt is essentially even with Stephano or a bit lower with the new metagame. MKP trashed Stephano at MLG last time.


If by trashed you mean almost lost? MKP is still a gimmicky player, 15 cc or all-in, that's all he does. Anyway bro, the facts are you were saying Polt was bad compared to MKP because hes in code a, somewhat unfortunate considering MKP literally just got knocked down into code a.

Lol MKP is gimmicky for 14CC huh? Stfu. Ever heard of this guy called Flash? And if you watch current tvz, MKP has made 14CC the standard. So think before you post.


Well Flash does it more unpredictable , when people don't expect it .


wat

No seriously, wat


I am to tired to think , about grammar , but you should still understand it . Flash goes 14 CC or all - in when players don't expect it . It's called mind games . MKP always opens extremely greedy and attacks at predictable for him timings .


Dude, Flash is known for stubbornly going 12 CC or 14 CC every single game, no matter how often he got cheesed out.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
June 28 2012 12:55 GMT
#3551
On June 28 2012 21:54 Havik_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:52 Za7oX wrote:
Need a zerg in dat ro8

You can do ettttttt SYMBOL!!!!!



You're at least going to get DRG and Nestea is quite likely too.


Nestea, just like MKP, never goes to r8 so no. DRG most likely yeah
리노크 👑
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
June 28 2012 12:56 GMT
#3552
On June 28 2012 21:55 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:43 Fragile51 wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:42 raga4ka wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:41 andaylin wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:38 Moskau wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:32 ZenithM wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:28 Moskau wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:27 ZenithM wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:25 dragonborn wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:24 noddy wrote:
[quote]

Zerg beating Terran despite playing terrible, shocker!

Now hopefully Symbol will die to Squirtle

Thats okay since MKP being fourth in this group, hahahahahah.

stop whining and watch Polt's TvZ.

MKP is overrated in Korea.

You mean "watch Polt's Code A TvZ"?


You mean watch MKP Code A matches? You realize he goes to Code A because he lost in the group right?

He's still placed higher than Polt bro. I don't get the MKP-Polt comparison, it's pretty clear who the better player is. Polt is essentially even with Stephano or a bit lower with the new metagame. MKP trashed Stephano at MLG last time.


If by trashed you mean almost lost? MKP is still a gimmicky player, 15 cc or all-in, that's all he does. Anyway bro, the facts are you were saying Polt was bad compared to MKP because hes in code a, somewhat unfortunate considering MKP literally just got knocked down into code a.

Lol MKP is gimmicky for 14CC huh? Stfu. Ever heard of this guy called Flash? And if you watch current tvz, MKP has made 14CC the standard. So think before you post.


Well Flash does it more unpredictable , when people don't expect it .


wat

No seriously, wat


I am to tired to think , about grammar , but you should still understand it . Flash goes 14 CC or all - in when players don't expect it . It's called mind games . MKP always opens extremely greedy and attacks at predictable for him timings .

Bringing Flash to this discussion was fail from the beginning btw
Stork[gm]
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
June 28 2012 12:56 GMT
#3553
Rough loss for Squirtle in Game 1. I hope he doesn't falter. You already beat him earlier tonight, you can do it again.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
June 28 2012 12:56 GMT
#3554
On June 28 2012 21:51 -Kira wrote:
What do you do vs that? Rush to 200/200 roaches -> force them into Protoss throat -> win?
I see no way of defending this without blind hardcounter, am i wrong?


Sentry Immortal without wasting time and resources on early twilight. You get stalkers and blink while defending your 3rd. You have to be very cost effective with ff and have observers before 3rd or at xelnaga. It's much harder than going for 2base allins.
You're now breathing manually
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
June 28 2012 12:56 GMT
#3555
On June 28 2012 21:53 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:52 rothsbury wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:50 Havik_ wrote:
People talked about the Roach max with drop being impossible to hold, and IDK, it might be true.

1) Squirtle did retarded build.

2) You need to split your units well (a handful of stalkers can easily repel the overlords; someone did it in gsl recently, forget who though).


Handful of stalkers can repel the 12-15 overlords?



Can't remember the games that well, but I believe it was Puzzle vs Seal where he (Puzzle) was able to repel that strategy.
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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
June 28 2012 12:57 GMT
#3556
He's taking a third base....



I don't see Squirtle winning this game.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
June 28 2012 12:58 GMT
#3557
GSL is trending :D
Fluffeh
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden66 Posts
June 28 2012 12:58 GMT
#3558
On June 28 2012 21:54 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:53 Elite_ wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:52 Za7oX wrote:
Need a zerg in dat ro8

You can do ettttttt SYMBOL!!!!!


Are NesTea and DRG not good enough for you? They're in group D in case you forgot.

Both won't make it out.


Because zergs are having a hard time vs T amirite? ^^
nth<3 Flash<3
DizzySheep
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1144 Posts
June 28 2012 12:58 GMT
#3559
On June 28 2012 21:56 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:53 Dodgin wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:52 rothsbury wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:50 Havik_ wrote:
People talked about the Roach max with drop being impossible to hold, and IDK, it might be true.

1) Squirtle did retarded build.

2) You need to split your units well (a handful of stalkers can easily repel the overlords; someone did it in gsl recently, forget who though).


Handful of stalkers can repel the 12-15 overlords?



Can't remember the games that well, but I believe it was Puzzle vs Seal where he (Puzzle) was able to repel that strategy.


That was different..seal was dropping lings and puzzle had 4 cannons ready for him. It was on cloud kingdom.
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
June 28 2012 12:58 GMT
#3560
I wish I was as talented as some of you who are able to see this roach max with drops for the first time and instantly be able to tell that it is impossible to hold and protoss will never win if they don't all-in.
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