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[Code S] Group of Death Ro16 Group B 2012 GSL S3 - Page 176

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FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
June 28 2012 12:50 GMT
#3501
On June 28 2012 21:49 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:49 andaylin wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:45 andaylin wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:42 Fragile51 wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:41 noddy wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:38 Moskau wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:32 ZenithM wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:28 Moskau wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:27 ZenithM wrote:
[quote]
You mean "watch Polt's Code A TvZ"?


You mean watch MKP Code A matches? You realize he goes to Code A because he lost in the group right?

He's still placed higher than Polt bro. I don't get the MKP-Polt comparison, it's pretty clear who the better player is. Polt is essentially even with Stephano or a bit lower with the new metagame. MKP trashed Stephano at MLG last time.


If by trashed you mean almost lost? MKP is still a gimmicky player, 15 cc or all-in, that's all he does. Anyway bro, the facts are you were saying Polt was bad compared to MKP because hes in code a, somewhat unfortunate considering MKP literally just got knocked down into code a.


He's not in Code A. Get your facts straight, please.

He's also the player who has probably the most builds out of any player but yeah, he's definitely "gimmicky" rofl.


He is in Code A, get your facts straight please >_>

He is not. I don't understand why people don't understand Gsl after so many seasons with this format

Marineking is in Code A..... He got 4th place in the ro16. You get dropped to the 3rd round of Code A. If you win you are directly back into code S. if you lose, you go to up and downs

Except you are not in code a officially until you lose up and downs. You realize this is how nestea got his award?

you are not in code a officially the NEXT season but THIS season he is in code A. Nestea got the award for starting every season in Code S


I love how he doesn't respond to this...
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
June 28 2012 12:51 GMT
#3502
On June 28 2012 21:47 soverRR wrote:
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On June 28 2012 21:46 Testuser wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:44 -TesteR- wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:42 Testuser wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:42 -TesteR- wrote:
8-2 Squirtle and 7-1 Symbol on daybreak


15-3?


o.O? Their winrates on the map.


1-1?


Total GSL games, not just this round.


18?
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AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
June 28 2012 12:51 GMT
#3503
symbol!!!
IM & EG supporter
-Kira
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
352 Posts
June 28 2012 12:51 GMT
#3504
What do you do vs that? Rush to 200/200 roaches -> force them into Protoss throat -> win?
I see no way of defending this without blind hardcounter, am i wrong?
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
June 28 2012 12:51 GMT
#3505
8 gate blink robo on 2 base is really all-in... if you then decide to get 3rd without even attacking to do damage don't be surprised if you get crushed.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
June 28 2012 12:51 GMT
#3506
On June 28 2012 21:49 Serelitz wrote:
How do you stop this? Symbol's strat looks so disgustingly strong.

drop tech is disgustingly long to tech and expensive. Also risky
Stork[gm]
RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 12:52:26
June 28 2012 12:51 GMT
#3507
Awesome build, I'll absolutely steal that for my ladder games drop tech doesn't work most of the time, but when it does, it looks freaking awesome.
BW: sGs.sTaRfaLL SC2: MarojiN | fan of: Darkforce, DBS, Last, Mvp, BoguS/InnoVatioN | Executer vs Choosy on Gladiator - Never forget T-T
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
June 28 2012 12:51 GMT
#3508
On June 28 2012 21:51 -Kira wrote:
What do you do vs that? Rush to 200/200 roaches -> force them into Protoss throat -> win?
I see no way of defending this without blind hardcounter, am i wrong?

This is why there are so many 2 base all-ins for PvZ
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
June 28 2012 12:51 GMT
#3509
i missed the game, i assumed squirtle did a fast 3rd base and symbol hard countered with a mass roach drop(like he does everytime).
Walitgon
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia550 Posts
June 28 2012 12:51 GMT
#3510
On June 28 2012 21:49 Mozdk wrote:
This is why P does all ins vs z


LOL, or, you can not tech, get 8 gate, robo and twilight before you take your immensely delayed 3rd... autolose strat right there. Not even 4gate pressure to start....
BRB laddering ^_^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
avc
Profile Joined December 2011
121 Posts
June 28 2012 12:51 GMT
#3511
On June 28 2012 21:49 IMPrime wrote:
for people who say to make ghosts

emp vs fungal is very similar to emp vs storm

EMP is only useful against the spellcasters (in tvp it does take off shields, but it's not a whole lot aside from the stalkers and immortals).
fungal/storm is useful against everything

this increases the difficulty in getting the EMP in time before the other spellcasters do something


"I refuse to use Ghosts because they only counter the caster unit that is the centrepiece and most important part of the Zerg army and that unit has skills which work on more things than the Ghosts, so Ghosts suck"
andis35
Profile Joined May 2011
Latvia346 Posts
June 28 2012 12:52 GMT
#3512
On June 28 2012 21:51 -Kira wrote:
What do you do vs that? Rush to 200/200 roaches -> force them into Protoss throat -> win?
I see no way of defending this without blind hardcounter, am i wrong?



Kill zerg with some 2base timing
Powster
Profile Joined April 2010
United States650 Posts
June 28 2012 12:52 GMT
#3513
no sim city at 3rd becuase of the 8 gates in main lost him the game.. probably some probe cutting also from 8 gate thing
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 28 2012 12:52 GMT
#3514
On June 28 2012 21:51 -Kira wrote:
What do you do vs that? Rush to 200/200 roaches -> force them into Protoss throat -> win?
I see no way of defending this without blind hardcounter, am i wrong?


It's very very tough to the point of some people saying drops might have to be moved to Hive because It's too strong. ( this would also help mech vs roach max drop )
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
June 28 2012 12:52 GMT
#3515
On June 28 2012 21:50 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:49 Talionis wrote:
How the hell do you stop this build? >_<


Don't go 8 gate + robo into a 3rd Nexus? I don't know if Squirtle was trying to mind game Symbol, or if he was just indecisive...


No Squirtle's build there is good, just gets hard countered by roach max + drops.
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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
June 28 2012 12:52 GMT
#3516
On June 28 2012 21:50 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:49 andaylin wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:45 andaylin wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:42 Fragile51 wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:41 noddy wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:38 Moskau wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:32 ZenithM wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:28 Moskau wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:27 ZenithM wrote:
[quote]
You mean "watch Polt's Code A TvZ"?


You mean watch MKP Code A matches? You realize he goes to Code A because he lost in the group right?

He's still placed higher than Polt bro. I don't get the MKP-Polt comparison, it's pretty clear who the better player is. Polt is essentially even with Stephano or a bit lower with the new metagame. MKP trashed Stephano at MLG last time.


If by trashed you mean almost lost? MKP is still a gimmicky player, 15 cc or all-in, that's all he does. Anyway bro, the facts are you were saying Polt was bad compared to MKP because hes in code a, somewhat unfortunate considering MKP literally just got knocked down into code a.


He's not in Code A. Get your facts straight, please.

He's also the player who has probably the most builds out of any player but yeah, he's definitely "gimmicky" rofl.


He is in Code A, get your facts straight please >_>

He is not. I don't understand why people don't understand Gsl after so many seasons with this format

Marineking is in Code A..... He got 4th place in the ro16. You get dropped to the 3rd round of Code A. If you win you are directly back into code S. if you lose, you go to up and downs

Except you are not in code a officially until you lose up and downs. You realize this is how nestea got his award?


Because he started every season in Code S. MKP has to play in Code A this season. This is not a very difficult concept.

No it is not and I'm glad you understand it.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
isaachukfan
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada785 Posts
June 28 2012 12:52 GMT
#3517
People talked about the Roach max with drop being impossible to hold, and IDK, it might be true

At least it requires skill to execute, and is risky to the zerg, although it might be hard to hold, at least it promotes micro on both sides.
I'm a mennonite, yes I'm allowed to use a computer
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
June 28 2012 12:52 GMT
#3518
On June 28 2012 21:51 -Kira wrote:
What do you do vs that? Rush to 200/200 roaches -> force them into Protoss throat -> win?
I see no way of defending this without blind hardcounter, am i wrong?



Basically. Drops make FF useless, and FF is needed to hold that, unless you just go Stargate every game. I think Squirtle should have just gone with the 2 base all in again.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
June 28 2012 12:52 GMT
#3519
On June 28 2012 21:50 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:49 Talionis wrote:
How the hell do you stop this build? >_<


Don't go 8 gate + robo into a 3rd Nexus? I don't know if Squirtle was trying to mind game Symbol, or if he was just indecisive...


I assume he was trying to go for it, but decided not to after it was scouted. But his build was so inefficient for a macro game and he just ended up so far behind.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
June 28 2012 12:52 GMT
#3520
Need a zerg in dat ro8

You can do ettttttt SYMBOL!!!!!
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
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