Yay, MMA! Feel bad for Illusion though, no one expected him to win although, he did play really well, I think he can be a really really good player with more experience.
On July 08 2012 10:06 Whatson wrote: [quote] Go watch his Blizzard Cup games, or the games of him vs Zenio/Killer/DIMAGA/Violet at IEM
ive seen all of them and i agree that he used to be good
So then read all the quotes and actually look at the discussion before you comment
so youre saying because he used to dominate, he should still dominate? im not sure i follow
yes, because going from 80% to probably below 50% is a huge difference.
he got worse. im not saying the game is balanced, it's obviously in favor of zerg right now. but i think you overestimate this and underestimate mma's change in skill
He's also underestimating meta game shift. MMA is still going marine/tank when every other terran has changed up their play significantly and usually going heavy bio.
uh, no. marine tank is still the standard.... don't know what you're talking about.
It's not actually. I don't think I can keep responding to you without having my posts deteriorate. Good day.
The only person who makes pure bio work is MKP, because of his micro. But against DRG, he still goes bio-tank.
that's absolutely not true at all. I've seen tons of players pull off pure bio like MMA, Dream, alive, ryung.
On July 08 2012 10:07 honed wrote: [quote] ive seen all of them and i agree that he used to be good
So then read all the quotes and actually look at the discussion before you comment
so youre saying because he used to dominate, he should still dominate? im not sure i follow
yes, because going from 80% to probably below 50% is a huge difference.
he got worse. im not saying the game is balanced, it's obviously in favor of zerg right now. but i think you overestimate this and underestimate mma's change in skill
He's also underestimating meta game shift. MMA is still going marine/tank when every other terran has changed up their play significantly and usually going heavy bio.
uh, no. marine tank is still the standard.... don't know what you're talking about.
It's not actually. I don't think I can keep responding to you without having my posts deteriorate. Good day.
The only person who makes pure bio work is MKP, because of his micro. But against DRG, he still goes bio-tank.
that's absolutely not true at all. I've seen tons of players pull off pure bio like MMA, Dream, alive, ryung.
That's true, but MKP just does it more so it appears like he's the only one lol
On July 08 2012 10:06 Whatson wrote: [quote] Go watch his Blizzard Cup games, or the games of him vs Zenio/Killer/DIMAGA/Violet at IEM
ive seen all of them and i agree that he used to be good
So then read all the quotes and actually look at the discussion before you comment
so youre saying because he used to dominate, he should still dominate? im not sure i follow
yes, because going from 80% to probably below 50% is a huge difference.
he got worse. im not saying the game is balanced, it's obviously in favor of zerg right now. but i think you overestimate this and underestimate mma's change in skill
He's also underestimating meta game shift. MMA is still going marine/tank when every other terran has changed up their play significantly and usually going heavy bio.
uh, no. marine tank is still the standard.... don't know what you're talking about.
It's not actually. I don't think I can keep responding to you without having my posts deteriorate. Good day.
The only person who makes pure bio work is MKP, because of his micro. But against DRG, he still goes bio-tank.
No, Pure bio is pretty much the TvZ standard metagame at high levels right now.
On July 08 2012 10:07 honed wrote: [quote] ive seen all of them and i agree that he used to be good
So then read all the quotes and actually look at the discussion before you comment
so youre saying because he used to dominate, he should still dominate? im not sure i follow
yes, because going from 80% to probably below 50% is a huge difference.
he got worse. im not saying the game is balanced, it's obviously in favor of zerg right now. but i think you overestimate this and underestimate mma's change in skill
He's also underestimating meta game shift. MMA is still going marine/tank when every other terran has changed up their play significantly and usually going heavy bio.
uh, no. marine tank is still the standard.... don't know what you're talking about.
It's not actually. I don't think I can keep responding to you without having my posts deteriorate. Good day.
The only person who makes pure bio work is MKP, because of his micro. But against DRG, he still goes bio-tank.
that's absolutely not true at all. I've seen tons of players pull off pure bio like MMA, Dream, alive, ryung.
...against a player like DRG, Life, Leenock, or Symbol? At least that's the parameters I thought were relevant, not exactly sure...I mean the last GSL TvZs I've watched have all used tanks I know other players do it occasionally, but MKP is the only one who consistently does it all the time and gets results for it.
On July 08 2012 10:07 honed wrote: [quote] ive seen all of them and i agree that he used to be good
So then read all the quotes and actually look at the discussion before you comment
so youre saying because he used to dominate, he should still dominate? im not sure i follow
yes, because going from 80% to probably below 50% is a huge difference.
he got worse. im not saying the game is balanced, it's obviously in favor of zerg right now. but i think you overestimate this and underestimate mma's change in skill
He's also underestimating meta game shift. MMA is still going marine/tank when every other terran has changed up their play significantly and usually going heavy bio.
uh, no. marine tank is still the standard.... don't know what you're talking about.
It's not actually. I don't think I can keep responding to you without having my posts deteriorate. Good day.
The only person who makes pure bio work is MKP, because of his micro. But against DRG, he still goes bio-tank.
that's absolutely not true at all. I've seen tons of players pull off pure bio like MMA, Dream, alive, ryung.
Thank you. I've seen mmm and banshee openers making a huge comeback vs Z in the past two weeks. I think we all have. All the terrans who stream are practicing bio, etc.
On July 08 2012 10:07 honed wrote: [quote] ive seen all of them and i agree that he used to be good
So then read all the quotes and actually look at the discussion before you comment
so youre saying because he used to dominate, he should still dominate? im not sure i follow
yes, because going from 80% to probably below 50% is a huge difference.
he got worse. im not saying the game is balanced, it's obviously in favor of zerg right now. but i think you overestimate this and underestimate mma's change in skill
He's also underestimating meta game shift. MMA is still going marine/tank when every other terran has changed up their play significantly and usually going heavy bio.
uh, no. marine tank is still the standard.... don't know what you're talking about.
It's not actually. I don't think I can keep responding to you without having my posts deteriorate. Good day.
The only person who makes pure bio work is MKP, because of his micro. But against DRG, he still goes bio-tank.
No, Pure bio is pretty much the TvZ standard metagame at high levels right now.
strange, I recall seeing many tanks in the recent GSL TvZs
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