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ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
June 18 2012 22:16 GMT
#5921
On June 19 2012 07:14 Anonymous_Coward wrote:
I don't think I'll ever complain about downtime at MLG again.

It is sorta hard to get it runnign quickly when people need to get in and out of the hall, people are really fucking stupid when it comes to letting us who were there for just watching dota2 get out first
Deleted User 218615
Profile Joined September 2011
163 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 22:16:50
June 18 2012 22:16 GMT
#5922
Apparently they are doing some interview or something, its live on SVT2 for Swedish people but we still dont have a stream
saksy2
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway520 Posts
June 18 2012 22:16 GMT
#5923
On June 19 2012 07:16 Hellfury wrote:
Is this the most disorganized tourney of all time?

MLG Dallas 2011
mh_no_idea
Profile Joined April 2011
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 22:17:34
June 18 2012 22:16 GMT
#5924
one thing that is great, the next mlg when the discussion about starting times for europeans happens (and it obv happens, it does always^^). And the north americans say, well your european tournaments do the same, they cater for you..... I can throw them this in their faces LOL

And yes before a discussion starts, that was sarcastic and mlg shouldnt do this shit to their viewers....
Fanta_Rules
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden669 Posts
June 18 2012 22:16 GMT
#5925
Maddelisk is explaining SC2 for the swedish viewers now.
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
June 18 2012 22:16 GMT
#5926
Maddelisk getting interviewed on tv now

hnnnngg
wildstyle1337
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland514 Posts
June 18 2012 22:16 GMT
#5927
WTf they are doing ? how long can we wait ?
SanchoPanda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States117 Posts
June 18 2012 22:16 GMT
#5928
I'm a noob. So i googled MOBA, and found --> THIS

Now I get it! This is why the characters are blobs! It all makes sense.

Seriosuly tho, GO DIMAGA!!!!!!!!
Siege the Day!
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
June 18 2012 22:16 GMT
#5929
On June 19 2012 07:15 Sp00ly wrote:
Wish people would stop complaining. We are all nerds here, aren't we meant to stay up till 3am due to videogames?

Not everyone is in a position to do on a Monday. Luckily for me I'm some kind of nocturnal creature so it's no problem, but I sympathise with those who have to sleep now.
Anonymous_Coward
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom1347 Posts
June 18 2012 22:17 GMT
#5930
On June 19 2012 07:15 Zheega wrote:
We're at or even below ro4 viewer numbers?



That's what happens when tournaments delay a final for hours, for a completely different game to be played.

If only they could have the finals of two different games played at the same time, like every other multi-game tournament ever. :/

DH has been pretty good, can't complain about free high-quality streams, but they're losing a lot of good will with this crap.
snoop101
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada25 Posts
June 18 2012 22:17 GMT
#5931
Canada here and its 4:15 pm.... I was up at 5 am to start watching... Loved all of it.
Tribuno
Profile Joined August 2011
Italy261 Posts
June 18 2012 22:17 GMT
#5932
i only see a black screen
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
June 18 2012 22:17 GMT
#5933
who the hell is maddelisk?
Amove for Aiur
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
June 18 2012 22:17 GMT
#5934
Last time I checked the stream had 55k viewers. Now it has 35k. This could end up being a hard-earned lesson for Dreamhack.
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 22:18:08
June 18 2012 22:17 GMT
#5935
On June 19 2012 07:15 MentalGNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 07:10 Candadar wrote:
On June 19 2012 07:09 Azarkon wrote:
On June 19 2012 07:06 maartendq wrote:
On June 19 2012 07:04 masterchip27 wrote:
On June 19 2012 07:01 maartendq wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:53 Slardar wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:50 maartendq wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:43 GreyKnight wrote:
It's always amusing to read the opposing games forums cry in bewilderment how the other game doesn't make sense and they are confused why anyone would watch it

Wouldn't call it bewilderment. SC2 is very clear. A red army fighting a blue army, and the army that gets obliterated, loses. MOBA games like LoL and DOTA2 have heroes attacking seemingly random stuff, critters that randomly walk towards and attack towers. It's a lot less clear to non-insiders what's going on.

To be honest, I never played Brood War multiplayer, but it only took me a game or three on gomtv.net to have a general idea of what's going on, and by the 20th game I had a general grasp of the build orders the players were using.


You have to know what each individual hero does or is at least capable of to have some strategic grasp as well as a basic clue. (e.g. who is on what team?) Imagine watching Starcraft with no idea what the units did, all you can assume is one team shooting or attacking the other.

Give yourself time and a chance, if you learn the basics it will open up to you.

I watched Starcraft without much idea of what does what. I had played the campaign a few times, but I mainly started watching it because I once saw a documentary about Starcraft being a popular competitive video game in South Korea.

I had a great time watching practically all the games on gomtv.net, grew really fond of tasteless as a caster (I still am, even though Artosis drowns him out way too much and Tasteless' passion for Starcraft 2 isn't on the same level as his passion for BW). I found out very quickly how the game functioned. The premise was also very easy: destroy the other player's base.

Like you said, in a MOBA game you have to know each of the heroes, and there tend to be a lot. Next there's also the items, critters that randomly seem to attack towers (what's their function?), gold etc. There's a lot of stuff you cannot know unless you play the game yourself, or do a ton of research. That's not good for a spectator sport. Football, tennis, basketball, hell even american football are all sports that are relatively easy to understand for people who are new to them. The finesse unfolds if you watch it a lot. It's not something I see happening with MOBA games, a genre which I personally find a bastardization of the RTS genre (since you basically only have to control one unit).


Empirically league of legends has had a higher magnitude of livestream viewers than sc2 recently, at many events. So, I wouldn't be too sure about that theorycrafting. If a game is popular to play, and has a good competitive scene, people will watch.

Well, it's a free and relatively casual game, with in-game stream support (hint HINT, blizzard?). It's got a way higher playerbase than SC2 as well, again, because it is free to play. If SC2's multiplayer were suddenly F2P, we'd see SC2 player number surge!


No, we won't. SC 2 started off with a player base of 1 million+ players in the NA. It's a tiny fraction of that - around 10,000-20,000 by my last log in to the NA server - who play online ladder matches. Competitive RTS games aren't that attractive to casual players, and it's the casual players who make up the bulk of MOBA viewers.


MOBA


Please stop using this term.

It's fucking retarded.

-The Society of People Who Undestand What MOBA Stands For

Can you explain what it is then? First result on "MOBA" into google is a site about LoL strategy. Aren't LoL, DOTA, HoN etc. MOBAs?

I'm not trolling. Genuine question.


MOBA was a term thought of RIOT, creators of LoL. Dota is a LOT older than that. LoL, HoN are Dota clones. Politically correct term is ARTS- Action RTS.
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
June 18 2012 22:17 GMT
#5936
Dear Dreamhack,
Find a couch.
Make incontrol and 2gd sit on that couch.
Put a camera on them.
Make them talk.
Downtime is the devil.
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
June 18 2012 22:17 GMT
#5937
On June 19 2012 07:16 saksy2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 07:16 Hellfury wrote:
Is this the most disorganized tourney of all time?

MLG Dallas 2011


That brings back memories... so many glorious image macroes. And not to forget eagles!

Anybody that needs a good laugh should go to those threads and read them, they are hilarious!
YandereQT
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom7 Posts
June 18 2012 22:17 GMT
#5938
Its not that bad for UK its only 23:17 right now
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
June 18 2012 22:17 GMT
#5939
On June 19 2012 07:17 Snusmumriken wrote:
who the hell is maddelisk?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/MaddeLisk
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
June 18 2012 22:17 GMT
#5940
On June 19 2012 07:16 saksy2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 07:16 Hellfury wrote:
Is this the most disorganized tourney of all time?

MLG Dallas 2011

The tournament itself was fine at Dallas. The stream just died.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
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