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HGurryp
275 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:18 TaKemE wrote: Those zealots would die if he pulls scv's to block. Zealots with 2/2 doesnt die for SCVS, now Scvs > Zealots, Stalkers,HT, and with a warprism in the mkp base. MKP FANS FTW, i should start make mass scvs against mass zealots. | ||
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leo23
United States3075 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:18 TaKemE wrote: Those zealots would die if he pulls scv's to block. What about the storms, etc.? It's a tough situation because we do not account for micro and possible choke from players but... http://i.imgur.com/eQRd4.jpg the army value says it all. Once again I am sad this has happened since this has tainted these finals and I wish there was a better solution than regaming or awarding the win to someone (implement a reconnect feature) | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:23 S_SienZ wrote: Terran bio forces are best v Protoss (esp w/o AOE) in those small numbers though. You can't just compare numbers assuming linear scaling. Yeah they do well in small groups in the early/mid game but not so much against fully upgraded chargelots. Not even mentioning the fact that the warp prism was out of reach for the vikings and he could harass or reinforce IN MKPs base. And if the HT's were at the watchtower you'd have potential storms or Archons ready in the time it would take MKP to reinforce with that small MM army. | ||
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leo23
United States3075 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:23 HGurryp wrote: Zealots with 2/2 doesnt die for SCVS, now Scvs > Zealots, Stalkers,HT, and with a warprism in the mkp base. MKP FANS FTW, i should start make mass scvs against mass zealots. I believe he is talking about block micro: Stopping scvs in front of zealots and mess with the AI. Please don't blindly call people MKP fans when we are having a discussion here | ||
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Akhee
Brazil811 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:03 Rokevo wrote: If this doesnt light a fire under blizzards ass to give us LAN, then I dont know what will. I'm not angry at MKP/Prime, i'm not even angry at the GOM referee(although I disagree with the decision), but these finals became a joke after the disconnect. agreed, I didn't enjoy so much the finals, not so much history, getting to not so much hype, bad mics, the only thing saving them were wolfdor with wolf doing so well to keep everything ok, but definitely after the disconnected it felt everything was untrue also, people should bring more discussion about the all kill format, the disconnect made it even worse for this format cause 1 match means everything, i can be wrong but ive never seen any poll about all kill x ace format, we have to feel free to do it since Gom actually listen to the public | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
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noddy
United Kingdom927 Posts
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Akhee
Brazil811 Posts
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:30 noddy wrote: I doubt it's a conspiracy just because MarineKing is more liked. I'm not talking about a conspiracy. Just that GOM seem to cater to the public and issuing a rematch is a easier choice than giving the win to one of the players. | ||
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noddy
United Kingdom927 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:31 karpo wrote: I'm not talking about a conspiracy. Just that GOM seem to cater to the public and issuing a rematch is a easier choice than giving the win to one of the players. I think issuing a rematch is an easier choice regardless of the player to be honest. This is Starcraft 2, anything can happen(especially with a 20 supply deficient) I just hope they'll release the replay so people can stop linking a stupid screenshot which doesn't prove anything | ||
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AysiktiriX
358 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:21 Biane wrote: Sounds like a good compromise for that particular situation especially with regards to time (since the other fair compromise that has been suggested was the "make it a Bo3 with Parting having the advantage") that said, both teams loose their key player. For the sake of discussion, what if it was BboongBboongs vs Parting and the DC happen? taking out both BB(who is a "less skilled" player) and Parting (who is a key player for ST)? Wouldnt be that fair for ST. Yeah, I thought about it as a compromise for exact this situation, in this tourney, I can't think of a compromise if Parting was winning like this vs "less hyped" player and they dc-ed. | ||
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Cloudsong
Luxembourg69 Posts
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Poopi
France12770 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:31 karpo wrote: I'm not talking about a conspiracy. Just that GOM seem to cater to the public and issuing a rematch is a easier choice than giving the win to one of the players. No matter who the players are referees always tend to regame instead of giving the win to a player. If one player was winning 80% sure they'll regame | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:24 leo23 wrote: What about the storms, etc.? It's a tough situation because we do not account for micro and possible choke from players but... http://i.imgur.com/eQRd4.jpg the army value says it all. Once again I am sad this has happened since this has tainted these finals and I wish there was a better solution than regaming or awarding the win to someone (implement a reconnect feature) Yes, it says that MarineKing was at a massive disadvantage. It says that 9 times out of 10, Parting wins in that situation. You may think that's enough to award a straight up win but apparently that's not what the GOM officials think and I would agree with not giving Parting a win there unless they extended the set to a Bo3 with Parting one game up. Sucks for StarTale that they didn't do that, but oh well. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
It's an awful, awful situation. It really has hugely tainted the finals and entire GSTL season. Doesn't change the fact that awarding a win would have been the wrong decision. | ||
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Ripper41
284 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:45 FuzzyJAM wrote: You really can't give a win just because the chances of losing are slim. It simply has to be a regame. It's an awful, awful situation. It really has hugely tainted the finals and entire GSTL season. Doesn't change the fact that awarding a win would have been the wrong decision. well you're taking a win cuz the game was completed then. see it any way you want. | ||
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SC2ShoWTimE
Germany722 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:33 noddy wrote: I think issuing a rematch is an easier choice regardless of the player to be honest. This is Starcraft 2, anything can happen(especially with a 20 supply deficient) I just hope they'll release the replay so people can stop linking a stupid screenshot which doesn't prove anything you do realizie that the vods are already up, right? you have basically every information you could also see in the replay, so i dont get this point. - both players are on 5 bases - both players around 70 workers - parting is 30 supply up while destroying some of the production facilities of mkp - equal upgrades - both have nearly no ressources in the bank what else is there to consider? all of the complaints could have been prevented by simply giving a reasonable explanation for why they think a regame is the best solution even though one player is in an advantageous position. of course people will complain otherwise. | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
 Best timing ever. Hopefully they'll realize how bad it is. | ||
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hstq
Czech Republic26 Posts
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HGurryp
275 Posts
On April 08 2012 22:05 Senx wrote: lol so great to see the game drop with browder and morhaime in the audience Best timing ever. Hopefully they'll realize how bad it is. nice, Startale is so happy because this. | ||
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