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Everyone knows the drill by now.

Keep it manner and have a good time.

We'll be watching along with you.
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
April 08 2012 13:13 GMT
#9681
in game 1, parting used feedback on both medivacs before morphing to an archon when MKP did the timing attack with +1 attack, stim, and 2 medivacs. in this game he deflected the timing attack after a long battle while trading decently.

i thought the feedbacks were genius because it pretty much negates the effect of the medivacs

but.. in game 2, he didnt use the feedback and instead just morphed the archon ahead of time. coincidentally, in this game the timing attack hurt alot
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
stipe145
Profile Joined December 2010
764 Posts
April 08 2012 13:14 GMT
#9682
MarineKing had no chance at all to win that game, he was so behind. So people are saying hed had 12 Barracks and he could remake stuff. Out of those 3 got camped and only 9 could produce. In the time an army comes out for MKP at least on base of his would fall. Also he could get the prism to his army to reinforce with zealot/archon and get the other 6 templars to the army for storms. Bad job by the gom referees, no explanation or anything.
Fruitality
Profile Joined October 2010
Vietnam45 Posts
April 08 2012 13:20 GMT
#9683
http://i.imgur.com/ElzFB.jpg
poor STPartinG i was rooting for ST so much .......
Live your dreams !
Nuithari
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium737 Posts
April 08 2012 13:21 GMT
#9684
On April 08 2012 19:26 Technique wrote:
MKP was in this situation before where he was winning and then a dc happened, he said rematch no problem.

So now he's on the other side it's only fair he gets the same treatment.


This... He actually refused a win in the past and offered a regame himself.

Do we actually have any reactions from the players about this? AFAIK anything about asian culture, winning by having someone DC, whether ahead or losing, is not something they'd be proud of.

This wasn't anyone's fault. Regame is regame, both players have to play at their fullest.
"Marineking's greatest strength is his enjoyment of the game" -Grubby
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
April 08 2012 13:24 GMT
#9685
On April 08 2012 21:36 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 21:24 leo23 wrote:
On April 08 2012 21:18 TaKemE wrote:
On April 08 2012 21:16 leo23 wrote:
16 zealots, 6 stalkers, 6 hts and 1 warp prism vs... 3 marauders and 6 vikings. both players on 2 1/2 mining bases. It was over... simply put those zealots would not die to the units coming out of the ~12 rax.

It sucks to see a situation like this because the finals are now tainted forever and who knows what would the outcome of the match be if parting got the win.

Hopefully we see a reconnect feature from blizzard in the future.


Those zealots would die if he pulls scv's to block.


What about the storms, etc.?

It's a tough situation because we do not account for micro and possible choke from players but...

http://i.imgur.com/eQRd4.jpg

the army value says it all.

Once again I am sad this has happened since this has tainted these finals and I wish there was a better solution than regaming or awarding the win to someone (implement a reconnect feature)


Yes, it says that MarineKing was at a massive disadvantage. It says that 9 times out of 10, Parting wins in that situation.

You may think that's enough to award a straight up win but apparently that's not what the GOM officials think and I would agree with not giving Parting a win there unless they extended the set to a Bo3 with Parting one game up.

Sucks for StarTale that they didn't do that, but oh well.


If the situation was truly 9:1 odds for Parting, I personally would've felt a re-game is fine. I don't think it was that close. If MKP had his army together, then one can at least assume that an incredible engagement angle with awesome micro and a screwup by Parting could turn it around. But at that point MKP's army was not together and could not put together a united defense.

Plus I think many MKP defenders fail to look at the macro game. MKP had no offensive potential at the time of the disconnect. Parting could've expanded at will by keeping up with the pressure. Something MKP could not do. Reinforcement favors the protoss since Parting had hit some of MKP's barracks. And in general full tech from both races favor protoss.

If you factor both the micro view(what players have at the time of disconnect) and macro view(what they will have should the game drag on) I really can't say Parting would only win 90% of the time. At the very least, I can't recall from the top of my head someone coming back from such a deficit at Korean Progamer level.
Meh
Biane
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia645 Posts
April 08 2012 13:25 GMT
#9686
On April 08 2012 22:20 Fruitality wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/ElzFB.jpg
poor STPartinG i was rooting for ST so much .......


Man, people link it so many times that i feel sick each time i see it
Falan
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany91 Posts
April 08 2012 13:27 GMT
#9687
Is there an EU rebroadcast?
GraFx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States429 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 14:40:54
April 08 2012 13:35 GMT
#9688
"Guys guys if x happens and y happens and z happens then RKP could have maybe won!!!"

keep stretching to justify it guys.

Parting was robbed.


edit. fixed a typo
foen
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands111 Posts
April 08 2012 13:41 GMT
#9689
Hopefully something good will come out of this (due to more pressure being on blizzard than ever), since the results of the finals can pretty much be disregarded.

Poor Startale.
noddy
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom927 Posts
April 08 2012 13:42 GMT
#9690
On April 08 2012 22:35 GraFx wrote:
"Guys guys if x happens and y happens and z happens then RKP could have maybe won!!!"

keep stretching to justify it guys.

Parting was robbed.


"If Parting did this and MarineKing had no units producing he would have won easily!!"

Keep stretching to think it wasn't justified.

MarineKing showed he's the better player and Prime won GSTL because of it.
StimMarine
Profile Joined March 2011
723 Posts
April 08 2012 13:43 GMT
#9691
On April 08 2012 22:35 GraFx wrote:
"Guys guys if x happens and y happens and z happens then RKP could have maybe won!!!"

keep stretching to justify it guys.

Parting was robbed.


Not a reply to you directly but even IF Parting was robbed, he wasn't robbed by MKP. Usually people say don't blame the process but in this case it is the process that is to be blamed (if at all).
HiTeK532
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada171 Posts
April 08 2012 13:48 GMT
#9692
I don't know if Parting was really robbed if asked most players in his situation would re-game just because of the high level of sportsmanship in Starcraft.
I play games not girls
NanowaX
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany190 Posts
April 08 2012 13:55 GMT
#9693
definetly not mkp or prime's fault. marineking would have handed parting the regame 2 minutes earlier for sure if parting had dropped and imo he showed enoughsportsmanship because he didn't celebrate the victory at all!!

marineking i even love you more after this!!!
SlayerS MMA GOAT | Maru, MKP, MVP, Byun
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
April 08 2012 14:05 GMT
#9694
I didn't watch the game but 6 viking + 2 marauder vs. 18 zealot 6 stalker 8 templar, how is that not decided?
ggaemo fan
noddy
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom927 Posts
April 08 2012 14:12 GMT
#9695
It's funny how every time someone uninformed posts Parting seems to have had more High Templars than before.
Gandhi
Profile Joined November 2011
United States78 Posts
April 08 2012 14:18 GMT
#9696
Posted in another thread:

Here's something to think about: If the game had DC'd when Bomber was calling down a manner mule in the game vs. MKP, would you have given the win to Bomber?
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
April 08 2012 14:30 GMT
#9697
On April 08 2012 23:18 Gandhi wrote:
Posted in another thread:

Here's something to think about: If the game had DC'd when Bomber was calling down a manner mule in the game vs. MKP, would you have given the win to Bomber?


No, because they were very even and Bombers drop failed.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
April 08 2012 14:31 GMT
#9698
On April 08 2012 22:05 Senx wrote:
lol so great to see the game drop with browder and morhaime in the audience

Best timing ever. Hopefully they'll realize how bad it is.

[image loading]
Indeed they do
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
April 08 2012 14:32 GMT
#9699
On April 08 2012 23:30 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 23:18 Gandhi wrote:
Posted in another thread:

Here's something to think about: If the game had DC'd when Bomber was calling down a manner mule in the game vs. MKP, would you have given the win to Bomber?


No, because they were very even and Bombers drop failed.

(considering he said "if the game dc's WHEN bomber was calling down the manner mule, then you can't say bomber's drop "failed" at that point yet.)
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
anApple
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore275 Posts
April 08 2012 14:33 GMT
#9700
The regame probably also ruined Startale's momentum and morale, oh well.
huehuehue
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