EPTI'm not angry at MKP/Prime, i'm not even angry at the GOM referee(although I disagree with the decision), but these finals became a joke after the disconnect.
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Rokevo
Finland1033 Posts
I'm not angry at MKP/Prime, i'm not even angry at the GOM referee(although I disagree with the decision), but these finals became a joke after the disconnect. | ||
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vasculaR
Malaysia791 Posts
I like MKP and sometimes things just favour you and you take your chances. | ||
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TaKemE
Denmark1045 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:00 monkybone wrote: Not that kind of luck. I'm a fan of mkp and all and I'd like to see him win that game, but it was lost in all fairness. It was simply unfair to regame, it shouldn't have happened. It isn't like they were rolling dice or anything. Protoss in your production with zealot archon is gg. There were no archons and you think you know better then Korean pro referees? | ||
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noddy
United Kingdom927 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:01 karpo wrote: A MKP fanboy white knighting his favorite player. Shocking. I've paused at the part where MKP dropped. Three rax with 2 tech labs are sure to be destroyed, or at best not be producing usable for quite some time. There's a warp prism going towards the base with Parting having the money to warp in a ton of stuff inside MKPs base. The food was 110 vs 145 with MKP having at most 21 food of units in production. 110 - 71 (SCVs) - 12 (Vikings) - 6 (Marauders) = 21 food in production. And that's counting the two out of three rax that Parting was destroying at the time, probably were producing Marauders as they had tech labs. Seems pretty unwinnable to me. Parting had 200 minerals at the time of the drop, he couldn't warp in. There were vikings to greet that warp prism. Heh. | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:03 Wivyx wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not watching the vod), but didn't Parting have like ~250 minerals? That's not really sufficient to warp in a ton of stuff. Also, weren't there vikings taking care of that prism? Yeah sorry i misread that. 250/550 minerals/gas. But with the amount of bases running the money surely would be enough when the warp prism deployed. | ||
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HGurryp
275 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:04 TaKemE wrote: There were no archons and you think you know better then Korean pro referees? 6 hts. | ||
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Aeceus
United Kingdom1278 Posts
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-shArk-
Germany150 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:01 karpo wrote: A MKP fanboy white knighting his favorite player. Shocking. I've paused at the part where MKP dropped. Three rax with 2 tech labs are sure to be destroyed, or at best not be producing usable for quite some time. There's a warp prism going towards the base with Parting having the money to warp in a ton of stuff inside MKPs base. The food was 110 vs 145 with MKP having at most 21 food of units in production. 110 - 71 (SCVs) - 12 (Vikings) - 6 (Marauders) = 21 food in production. And that's counting the two out of three rax that Parting was destroying at the time, probably were producing Marauders as they had tech labs. Seems pretty unwinnable to me. I totally agree. The game was basically over, no real way that MKP comes back from this. So sad that the regame decision won prime the tournament. In my opinion ST has the much better roster after taking down MKP... | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:05 noddy wrote: Parting had 200 minerals at the time of the drop, he couldn't warp in. There were vikings to greet that warp prism. Heh. Actually when the game dropped i saw at least 3 vikings flying close to the 3 "proxy" rax and the warp prism was already way past them flying towards the back of the base. Also those viking were being shot down by stalkers... | ||
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Wivyx
Norway624 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:07 Aeceus wrote: Stopped watching after they announced regame. If they had any brain at all they would of give that game to Parting... Such a let down after a great season. I feel it's safe to assume that the GOM referees do indeed have brains. | ||
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noddy
United Kingdom927 Posts
In Parting's main base. | ||
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Biane
Australia645 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:07 Aeceus wrote: Stopped watching after they announced regame. If they had any brain at all they would of give that game to Parting... Such a let down after a great season. Maybe you should be employed as Judge instead of them, anything to not kill esports! | ||
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AysiktiriX
358 Posts
However, bitching about this isn't why I am here. I am here to ask a question. I thought a much about what decision could be made in that situation - something not in the rulebook, something just for a situation like this. Here is what I came up with, please state your opinions on it.: For me, the best decision would have been - 1 - both players lose their spots and can't be picked up 2 - result stays the same 3 - the team, which was in the disadvantageous position states who their next player will be 4 - the other team then picks their player and the map | ||
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leo23
United States3075 Posts
It sucks to see a situation like this because the finals are now tainted forever and who knows what would the outcome of the match be if parting got the win. Hopefully we see a reconnect feature from blizzard in the future. | ||
Poopi
France12936 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:09 -shArk- wrote: I totally agree. The game was basically over, no real way that MKP comes back from this. So sad that the regame decision won prime the tournament. In my opinion ST has the much better roster after taking down MKP... You do realize that the only player Byun hasn't trashed in IPL or GSTL from StarTale is Curious? | ||
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TaKemE
Denmark1045 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:16 leo23 wrote: 16 zealots, 6 stalkers, 6 hts and 1 warp prism vs... 3 marauders and 6 vikings. both players on 2 1/2 mining bases. It was over... simply put those zealots would not die to the units coming out of the ~12 rax. It sucks to see a situation like this because the finals are now tainted forever and who knows what would the outcome of the match be if parting got the win. Hopefully we see a reconnect feature from blizzard in the future. Those zealots would die if he pulls scv's to block. | ||
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Biane
Australia645 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:16 AysiktiriX wrote: I have to say - the controversial game and the following MKP win made me go to bed. Ok, it wasn't over, but MKP had 10, maybe 15% at max chance to turn the things around. However, bitching about this isn't why I am here. I am here to ask a question. I thought a much about what decision could be made in that situation - something not in the rulebook, something just for a situation like this. Here is what I came up with, please state your opinions on it.: For me, the best decision would have been - 1 - both players lose their spots and can't be picked up 2 - result stays the same 3 - the team, which was in the disadvantageous position states who their next player will be 4 - the other team then picks their player and the map Sounds like a good compromise for that particular situation especially with regards to time (since the other fair compromise that has been suggested was the "make it a Bo3 with Parting having the advantage") that said, both teams loose their key player. For the sake of discussion, what if it was BboongBboongs vs Parting and the DC happen? taking out both BB(who is a "less skilled" player) and Parting (who is a key player for ST)? Wouldnt be that fair for ST. | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:18 TaKemE wrote: Those zealots would for die if he pulls scv's to block. And if he pulled SCVs he would be even further behind as he would lose mining time, long term economy, AND the three rax+tech labs that Parting was destroying right when the game dropped. As i calculated earlier, MKP could be building 21 food at max and 2-4 of that were in the rax that Parting was camping. 19-17 food is like 4 marauders and 9 marines, or perhaps 2 medivacs and 4 marauders 5 marines, still a weak force tbh. | ||
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HGurryp
275 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/IuHuA.jpg) The ht's in the middle of the map, near the watch tower. and Parting had one warprism in the mkp base | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On April 08 2012 21:22 karpo wrote: And if he pulled SCVs he would be even further behind as he would lose mining time, long term economy, AND the three rax+tech labs that Parting was destroying right when the game dropped. As i calculated earlier, MKP could be building 21 food at max and 2-4 of that were in the rax that Parting was camping. 19-17 food is like 4 marauders and 9 marines, or perhaps 2 medivacs and 4 marauders 5 marines, still a weak force tbh. Terran bio forces are best v Protoss (esp w/o AOE) in those small numbers though. You can't just compare numbers assuming linear scaling. | ||
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